[QUOTE=Dartagnan;16940]Colie has already talked about Tonya. She was part of the "I Hate Tonya Because Game" though. Paula has always seemed like she is going to snap sometime and I hope she snaps on someone this season.
How are KellyAnne and Tonya connected?[/QUOTE]
The "I Hate Tonya" thing is long dead and burried. If it is a factor it will be because BMP tries to make it a story line. Neither women is interested in reliving that horrible show...
Kelly Anne and Tonya have a business arrangement with Beth S., her reality calendar. they both also have a relationship with the same management company. I expect they have a lot to talk about in both respects. Some of the other women on the challenge share the same ties.
[QUOTE=V1man;16962]The "I Hate Tonya" thing is long dead and burried. If it is a factor it will be because BMP tries to make it a story line. Neither women is interested in reliving that horrible show...
Kelly Anne and Tonya have a business arrangement with Beth S., her reality calendar. they both also have a relationship with the same management company. I expect they have a lot to talk about in both respects. Some of the other women on the challenge share the same ties.[/QUOTE]
So then Kelli Anne and Tonya will be in the calander this year, or were they just both up for a spot?
[QUOTE=stacee_danielle;16963]So then Kelli Anne and Tonya will be in the calander this year, or were they just both up for a spot?[/QUOTE]
The calendar shoot is this week here in LA. As far as I know, both women are still in Panama. Of course, there could always be another shoot scheduled later after some people become available.
Well, this could play out well for Tonya if she comes into this season with more friends than enemies. At times she doesn't metanlly prepare herself for what she is getting herself into.
KellyAnne isn't the best of allies considering newbies go first. If that rule still applies tot his Challenge.
Yeah i understand they are in the same stuff but when they are in the challenge everything changes cause its a game for money!!! im sure they will talk in the first epidode, but as soonest the challenge starts they will kill each other for the money !!!
[quote=Dartagnan;16971]
KellyAnne isn't the best of allies considering newbies go first. If that rule still applies tot his Challenge.[/quote]
I am hoping for a different philosophy (i.e. keep the weakest so you have the best chance of winning ala survivor.)
That would make things very different.
[quote=Bacchus;16979]I am hoping for a different philosophy (i.e. keep the weakest so you have the best chance of winning ala survivor.)
That would make things very different.[/quote]
I agree. That is what I am hoping turns out to because if the game switches to that then the Vets are going to have to start fighting for their spots.
The game would be different than we have ever seen. Although, for me Tonya or even Rachel would be smart enough to smell that philosophy from miles away. The Vets either need to play really smart this season or start making some really good friends.
[quote=Jimmy;16986]They are making some really good friends[/quote]
They as in who? Can you clarify please?
Does anyone see Johanna as a dark horse to win this Challenge? I honestly do. She has the friends, she is pretty much drama free, and she is a great competitor.
[quote=Dartagnan;16989]
Does anyone see Johanna as a dark horse to win this Challenge? I honestly do. She has the friends, she is pretty much drama free, and she is a great competitor.[/quote]
I agree. I put her odds of getting to the final stages as very good. She has the social part down. It comes to competitive elimination.
[quote=Bacchus;16990]I agree. I put her odds of getting to the final stages as very good. She has the social part down. It comes to competitive elimination.[/quote]
I agree. Johanna may have better odds than every other girl on this Challenge.
Tonya is someone that drama sticks to like glue. That brings down her odds a lot. Plus she doesn't take anything from anyone so that makes the others dislike her.
Rachel hasn't been around for three years so that could have possibly brought down her physical ability. She doesn't know many of these people besides Derrick, Tonya, Abram, and Robin. That doesn't help her social status.
Ev is just all around somewhat dislikeable. She is strong and that alone will make the girls want to get rid of her. Plus, they know she is always up for working with others against you to get you booted off.
Johanna all around is the most likely to win.
[quote=Dartagnan;16989]They as in who? Can you clarify please?
Does anyone see Johanna as a dark horse to win this Challenge? I honestly do. She has the friends, she is pretty much drama free, and she is a great competitor.[/quote]
If you look through their myspaces you see who are top friends with eachother and works together. It kinda forms a pattern.
[QUOTE=Dartagnan;16994]I agree. Johanna may have better odds than every other girl on this Challenge.
Tonya is someone that drama sticks to like glue. That brings down her odds a lot. Plus she doesn't take anything from anyone so that makes the others dislike her.
Rachel hasn't been around for three years so that could have possibly brought down her physical ability. She doesn't know many of these people besides Derrick, Tonya, Abram, and Robin. That doesn't help her social status.
Ev is just all around somewhat dislikeable. She is strong and that alone will make the girls want to get rid of her. Plus, they know she is always up for working with others against you to get you booted off.
Johanna all around is the most likely to win.[/QUOTE]
Evelyn is not disliked by other cast members. She is feared and respected. That might be reason to target her. The "dislike" is entirely a fan thing that I've never understood.
[quote=V1man;17038]Evelyn is not disliked by other cast members. She is feared and respected. That might be reason to target her. The "dislike" is entirely a fan thing that I've never understood.[/quote]
Not dislike, but they don't want to cross her which in turn will make the other girls want to get rid of her.
[quote=V1man;17038]Evelyn is not disliked by other cast members. She is feared and respected. That might be reason to target her. The "dislike" is entirely a fan thing that I've never understood.[/quote]
I have no problem with Evelyn except she has an arrogance about her but I've talked to her some and she seems very nice honestly. Still I'd like to see her humbled so she'd lose some of that attitude but other than that I have no problem with her.
[quote=goldenwarrior63;17040]I have no problem with Evelyn except she has an arrogance about her but I've talked to her some and she seems very nice honestly. Still I'd like to see her humbled so she'd lose some of that attitude but other than that I have no problem with her.[/quote]
That is the main reason why I dislike her. Arrogance is very annoying to me. It is great how in shape she is, but she kind of flaunts how strong and tough she is. it bothers me. She honestly seems to be a nice person, but I must agree again she needs a little piece of humble pie to lose the attitude. Plus, anyone who plots against there team is kinda rude.
[QUOTE=Dartagnan;17041]That is the main reason why I dislike her. Arrogance is very annoying to me. It is great how in shape she is, but she kind of flaunts how strong and tough she is. it bothers me. She honestly seems to be a nice person, but I must agree again she needs a little piece of humble pie to lose the attitude. Plus, anyone who plots against there team is kinda rude.[/QUOTE]
I've talked to her about how she comes across on TV. She is aware of past mistakes in that regard and has been working on how to be herself more on camera. I hope she is successful.
Most of that "arrogance" is her attempt to overcome how naturally shy she is. She has never opened up about things that have happened in her life. If she did, people would be far more understanding of her, IMO.
[quote=V1man;17044]I've talked to her about how she comes across on TV. She is aware of past mistakes in that regard and has been working on how to be herself more on camera. I hope she is successful.
Most of that "arrogance" is her attempt to overcome how naturally shy she is. She has never opened up about things that have happened in her life. If she did, people would be far more understanding of her, IMO.[/quote]
Well that makes her a little better in my eyes. It would be better if she opened up a bit instead of the hard-as-nails persona.
If she has acknowledged her past mistakes does that mean she regrets getting rid of Coral and Katie the way they did?
I don't like Ev because she comes off as way too cocky to me. I also think she's a backstabber. I'm sure MTV edits it to make it seem worse but from what i have seen, i'm not a fan of her.
I don't really feel like I know her enough to like, or dislike her...I just lump her in with the fresh meat kids and my distaste for them by default I guess.
[quote=stacee_danielle;17057]I don't really feel like I know her enough to like, or dislike her...I just lump her in with the fresh meat kids and my distaste for them by default I guess.[/quote]
Amen. Although I dislike her a little bit.
Here is an interesting question: Does anyone know how much money this Challenge will be worth?
[quote=V1man;17044]Most of that "arrogance" is her attempt to overcome how naturally shy she is. She has never opened up about things that have happened in her life. If she did, people would be far more understanding of her, IMO.[/quote]
I'm sorry but a sob story is no reason to start liking someone if you can't stand their personality. Everyone has a sob story. It does not give anyone the right to act like an arrogant jerk. It's not just Ev, its Kenny and Evan and CT (I could name others but I just don't have the time).
On a side note...why oh why oh why do I have to see Abram on tv again??? ditto for Robin ... grrrrr
if Kenny and Derek were on the challenge and if it is going on, im pretty sure they're back... Dereck wrote on Kenny's page and if you see the comment left on Dereks page by "[URL="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=341172268"] Karma Spares No One[/URL]" Kenny watched the Italy Soccer game which took place this past sunday... Sucks... Kenny Santucci is by far definatly my favorite !
[quote=Challenge_Fan;17102]Finally, another person who likes Kenny, I'm not alone![/quote]
lol...i think he's super funny... but about derek... i had the wrong one... still hope kenny is not really off though!
[quote=cyncar07;17101]if Kenny and Derek were on the challenge and if it is going on, im pretty sure they're back... Dereck wrote on Kenny's page and if you see the comment left on Dereks page by "[URL="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=341172268"] Karma Spares No One[/URL]" Kenny watched the Italy Soccer game which took place this past sunday... Sucks... Kenny Santucci is by far definatly my favorite ![/quote]
You two are probably the only ones. Don't get me wrong, he's nice to look at and is funny as hell, he's just too arrogant...he makes Ev seem humble.
[quote=iamnemesis666;17104]You two are probably the only ones. Don't get me wrong, he's nice to look at and is funny as hell, he's just too arrogant...he makes Ev seem humble.[/quote]
I think his arrogance is funny, half of his jokes are about his looks, he's not arrogant in the sense of thinking he's good at the challenges, he said himself that he's not good at them but he says he just LOOKS good doing them
I don't mind Kenny. He's arrogant, but he's also not afraid to come across like a fool and have the joke played on him.
Not sure where I stand on Ev. She has generally come across like a ******* but I have a feeling the whole Brooke thing really hit her in the gut. She still looked like she was hurting during the reunion from tha whole mess and because of the way she came across on the challenge no one had any sympathy for her. So I'm guessing she'll be a little easier to take in the future.
There are far more dislikable people. CT...Casey...Danny...
[quote=nafselon;17107]
Not sure where I stand on Ev. She has generally come across like a ******* but I have a feeling the whole Brooke thing really hit her in the gut. She still looked like she was hurting during the reunion from tha whole mess and because of the way she came across on the challenge no one had any sympathy for her. So I'm guessing she'll be a little easier to take in the future.
There are far more dislikable people. CT...Casey...Danny...[/quote]
I also don't really know where I stand with Evelyn, I like her but I don't. She's strong and a good competitor, but the fact that she is 90% male is rather frightening at times. lol, it's fun to compare how she looks in Fresh Meat to how she looks in later seasons.
[IMG]http://www.mtv.com/onair/rwrr_challenge/fresh_meat/assets/flipbooks/cast/evelyn/281x211.jpg[/IMG]
I agree that CT, Casey and Danny are dislikable, Ct was cool in my opinion during the Duel, but I haven't seen him be cool since, and Casey and Danny just suck at life
does anyone know who had been voted off for sure already though?... when are they airing... someone might have asked that already but im not about to go read 27 pages of comments
oh oh and who do you all think are gonna be the hookups this season?
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