Real World/Road Rules: The Island - Spoilers

[SIZE=4][B]Game on![/B] [/SIZE](and time to start the spoiler thread.) Original (long) thread: [URL]http://vevmo.com/f187/real-world-road-rules-challenge-panama-2008-a-1692/[/URL] Full confirmed cast: [B]Ashli Robson[/B] [B]Kelly Anne Judd[/B] [B]Colie Edison[/B] [B]Johanna Botta[/B] [B]Robin Hibbard[/B] [B]Tonya Cooley[/B] [B]Jennifer Grijalva[/B] [B]Evelyn Smith[/B] [B]Paula[/B] [B]Meronek [/B] [B]Rachel[/B] [B]Robinson [/B] [B]Ryan Kehoe[/B] [B]Cohutta Lee Grindstaff[/B] [B]Dunbar Flinn [/B] [B]Johnny Devenanzio[/B] [B]Dan Walsh[/B] [B]Derrick Kosinski[/B] [B]Dave [/B][B]Malinosky[/B] [B]Kenny Santucci[/B] [B]Tyrie Ballard [/B] [B]Abram Boise [/B] Let's hope BMP was just trying to save a few bucks with the mass departure date (i.e. buy all the tickets and then just pay the change fees rather then booking on a need basis and paying full fare) and doesn't sequester the cast after they are eliminated. That would take all the fun out of trying to sight the known cast over the next month (and establishing their eliminations!) I guess now it is time to try and narrow down the exact location of the challenge. There were three Survivors in Panama:[B] Pearl Islands (7)[/B] - [B]All-Stars (8)[/B] -[B] Exile Island (12)[/B] All three were in the Pearl Islands. [quote]The [B]Pearl Islands[/B] (Spanish: [B]Archipiélago de las Perlas[/B] or [B]Islas de las Perlas[/B]) are a group of 100 or more islands (many tiny and uninhabited) lying about 30 miles off the Pacific coast of Panama in the Gulf of Panama.[/quote]I am still researching, but I do know that All-Stars was held in part on Saboga Island. [CENTER][IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/pearl01.jpg[/IMG] [/CENTER] Tthe odds are very good that this is the location of the RW/RR Challenge (2008) as well because we know BMP is cheap and would rather fall back on a previously scouted location than do their own leg work (at a premium.) Once we have the area narrowed to a couple square kilometers I'll get my source over at the Pentagon to divert a KH-13 Imaging Satellite to the area as well as any other assets he can spare (e.g. Predator drones, Global Hawks, Recon Marines et al.) [B]Update:[/B] Attached are the maps from the three Survivors held in Panama. They seem to be spread out all over the archipelago. In each case, Production was based on Contadora Island which has an airstrip for ferrying in cast members. It is considered a hub to the nearby uninhabited islands and has a variety of hotels, restaurants and 13 beautiful beaches which encircle it. [CENTER][IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/contadora.jpg[/IMG] [LEFT]That being said, they could be on any number of small islands dispersed throughout that region within a short boat ride of "Base Camp." [/LEFT] [/CENTER]

[quote=Bacchus;14887] Once we have the area narrowed to a couple square kilometers [I][B]I'll get my source over at the Pentagon[/B][/I] [/quote] Why am I not surprised?? ;)

[quote=OtherPplsDrama;14897]Why am I not surprised?? ;)[/quote] Yes, my sources run far and wide. Actually, the first images are streaming in now.....lets take a look! [CENTER] [IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/sat01.gif[/IMG] [B]Ah-ha! The Pearl Islands[/B]. [IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/sat02.gif[/IMG] [B]A little closer...you can see the suspected peninsula.[/B] [IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/sat03.gif[/IMG] [B]....and even closer! You can make out something in the rocks.[/B] [IMG]http://vevmo.com/images/sat04.gif[/IMG] [B]Wait, What the....JOHANNA! STEP AWAY FROM THAT [URL="http://vevmo.com/f187/johanna-competes-miss-peru-1335/"]GUINEA PIG[/URL][U]![/U][/B] [/CENTER] [SIZE=1] [/SIZE]

You just can't let that one go can you? :)

whats that greenish blue stuff in the water? would that be the current?

[quote=renaldob;14909]whats that greenish blue stuff in the water? would that be the current?[/quote] The visible color gradient is caused by the color and depth of the sea floor. The water near the islands is very shallow compared to the deeper waters further out and it has very white or light-colored sand. This combination reflects the sunlight back up more effectively. Also, reefs just below the water line diffuse the light to offer a different hue - although in actuality the water is the same color. Sometimes, algae and plankton will also cause a similar green hue to the water, although that is not the case in these photos. My favorite water in the world is near the Cayman islands. It looks like Frost (electric blue) Gatorade!

Lmmfao At The Guinea Pig!

[quote=EastNY;14914]Lmmfao At The Guinea Pig![/quote] I did say [URL="http://vevmo.com/f56/my-favorite-real-world-cast-member-johanna-1672/?highlight=favorite+real+world"]I would let it go[/URL], but she is [I]away[/I] and I just couldn't help myself. It is a sickness I say, a sickness!

[QUOTE=Bacchus;14920]I did say [URL="http://vevmo.com/f56/my-favorite-real-world-cast-member-johanna-1672/?highlight=favorite+real+world"]I would let it go[/URL], but she is [I]away[/I] and I just couldn't help myself. It is a sickness I say, a sickness![/QUOTE] hehehehehe

Are we positive that Colie is on this Challenge because she was signed on to her MySpace today?

[QUOTE=Dartagnan;14933]Are we positive that Colie is on this Challenge because she was signed on to her MySpace today?[/QUOTE] her family prob has her password to sign on

maybe they DO have internet cafes, or Colie was sent packing.

[quote=renaldob;14936]maybe they DO have internet cafes, or Colie was sent packing.[/quote] [B]C.[/B] None of the above.

Okay. I was just making sure. Somebody most likely signed on for her. Is that the full cast or is there more that you have not heard of yet?

[quote=Dartagnan;14938]Okay. I was just making sure. Somebody most likely signed on for her. Is that the full cast or is there more that you have not heard of yet?[/quote] The full list is posted.

Does anybody know if they are sticking to 1 hour episodes? I believe it has helped a lot more.

They probably will stick with the one hour format since they did it with Hollywood too.

[quote=goldenwarrior63;14943]They probably will stick with the one hour format since they did it with Hollywood too.[/quote] An MTV press release also said TRW: Brooklyn would also be broken into hour long episodes (even before filming has begun.) I have a feeling they found the formula worked better (with a full hour to engage the audience.) My best guess is we see hour long episodes of the next challenge with the good boost in ratings (over I3) and audience retention they saw with G3.

[quote=Bacchus;14946]An MTV press release also said TRW: Brooklyn would also be broken into hour long episodes (even before filming has begun.) I have a feeling they found the formula worked better (with a full hour to engage the audience.) My best guess is we see hour long episodes of the next challenge with the good boost in ratings (over I3) and audience retention they saw with G3.[/quote] Yeah it adds a certain freshness to it and also they have more time to work with storylines instead of trying to jam it into a half hour pr spread it over too many weeks. Plus I think they have done a better job at the editing with it too. Not to say that the other seasons weren't good(Thank Sydney for giving us a certain persian)

awesome.

[quote=V1man;14949]MTV looked around at its competition (VH1, BRAVO, Oxygen, Lifetime, etc) and realized that everyone but E! had moved to the hour reality format some time ago. One problem with being on top for so long is not realizing the advances in programming made by your competition. As you can tell from the early episodes of Hollywood, the editors were still thinking in half hour blocks, also, while Gauntlet 3 played as an hour show, it was planned an produced in Mexico with the expectation of being a 30 min show. Now that MTV has dictated 60 min challenge episodes, production must orient its thinking to an entirely new production dynamic, otherwise it's just two 30 min shows glued together. Innovation and progress from, imagine that.[/quote] [B]Ah very well said there[/B]

Nice, I can't wait. So are we thinking late this year or early next year for the first episode?

So then, are we certain that the upcoming Challenge is a new competition style, or are we just assuming so? Cuz I would think that the challenge will be something new that we haven't seen before, but obviously others would know better than I.

[quote=Challenge_Fan;14954]So then, are we certain that the upcoming Challenge is a new competition style, or are we just assuming so?[/quote] All we can do is take what we know thus far: [B]1.[/B] The Challenge takes place in Panama where three previous Survivors have been filmed. [B]2.[/B] The cast was told not to bring basic electric grooming products as they would be of no use (i.e. blow dryers, curling irons.) [B]3.[/B] Some cast members were told that watching previous Survivor seasons would be a good idea. [B]4[/B]. The smaller cast is in line with a more standard reality show (like Survivor) and much less than the 32 in The Gauntlet 3. We will have to continue to piece this together before anything can be said definitively. I've used the term "Survivor Inspired" in the past and that does fit in well with my above points , but that in no way should preclude the entirely realistic chance that this challenge is just a sequel to a pedigreed show in the BMP stable with a rebooted conceptual leaning. (Although I still have a strong belief that it will have a new moniker and be a different type challenge.)