The Challenge: Vets & New Threats - Ratings

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Does anyone know why they don't stream the next day?

It's most likely in BMP's legacy contracts and if Paramount wasn't negotiating next day streaming revenue, they made the business decision to keep as many eyeballs on them as possible.

Paramount/CBS are the same company that completely fumbled Love Island and Peacock made it rise from the ashes like a Phoenix. NBC is just way, way better at reality television.

then sell the challenge to peacock and nbc

 

Drag race on the same network was doing 600k-890k every episode this season... It is not a cable issue it's a producers issue

That's not entirely accurate. Drag Race's premiere pulled 671k back in January and ended at 867k in April. Other than those, only three episodes were above 790k: (794k, 870k, and 984k). So four of 16 episodes above 790k. The other eleven episodes ranged from 424k to 591k, with more than half in the 424k to 550k range. It's significantly higher than The Challenge, but very much inconsistent and not like it's pulling 750k a week. The average for the season was 614k.

You're cherry picking a single show not on MTV.  Compare it to MTV.  It's doing fine...if not great.  

The Challenge likely gets canceled if MTV dies...though I'm not sure if CBS was happy with spinoff.  Guessing it ceasing to exist for a 3rd season indicates they weren't 

 

 

Drag race on the same network was doing 600k-890k every episode this season... It is not a cable issue it's a producers issue

That's not entirely accurate. Drag Race's premiere pulled 671k back in January and ended at 867k in April. Other than those, only three episodes were above 790k: (794k, 870k, and 984k). So four of 16 episodes above 790k. The other eleven episodes ranged from 424k to 591k, with more than half in the 424k to 550k range. It's significantly higher than The Challenge, but very much inconsistent and not like it's pulling 750k a week. The average for the season was 614k.

You're cherry picking a single show not on MTV.  Compare it to MTV.  It's doing fine...if not great.  

Drag Race is on MTV.

 

 

Drag race on the same network was doing 600k-890k every episode this season... It is not a cable issue it's a producers issue

That's not entirely accurate. Drag Race's premiere pulled 671k back in January and ended at 867k in April. Other than those, only three episodes were above 790k: (794k, 870k, and 984k). So four of 16 episodes above 790k. The other eleven episodes ranged from 424k to 591k, with more than half in the 424k to 550k range. It's significantly higher than The Challenge, but very much inconsistent and not like it's pulling 750k a week. The average for the season was 614k.

You're cherry picking a single show not on MTV.  Compare it to MTV.  It's doing fine...if not great.  

Drag Race has been on MTV the last 3 years. However, The Challenge is their second biggest show

Yall saying its doing fine for mtv well yeah because mtv as a whole is dead and they have like what 4 shows in total. I mean being 2nd place out of 4th is good no matter the reason is good i guess lol

To be clear: USA is not cancelled. It's officially on hiatus. As is Tough as Nails and Buddy Games. Who knows why all three are still alive. But they are. For reference, The Summit reality tv show got 1 season and was promptly cancelled.

Maybe Skydance wants to create a reality tv network channel. Or focus all of it to Paramount+. I have no idea what their plan is. I guess we'll learn in the next few months.

Yall saying its doing fine for mtv well yeah because mtv as a whole is dead and they have like what 4 shows in total. I mean being 2nd place out of 4th is good no matter the reason is good i guess lol

Cable is dead. It was the 2nd highest show on that night that's not sports or the news.

To be clear: USA is not cancelled. It's officially on hiatus. As is Tough as Nails and Buddy Games. Who knows why all three are still alive. But they are. For reference, The Summit reality tv show got 1 season and was promptly cancelled.

Maybe Skydance wants to create a reality tv network channel. Or focus all of it to Paramount+. I have no idea what their plan is. I guess we'll learn in the next few months.

I told you to sell the challenge to nbc and peacock

LOL

Y'all might as well buckle up for that cancellation announcement 

They had a good run 41 seasons is nothing to sneeze at

The first move isn't cancellation. It would first be a reduction of the prize money, then a reduction in filming runtime, then a reduction in location exclusivity, then a drop off in the quality of set design, then a reduction in episode run time and episode count, then a lack of returning players and/or reduction in size of cast. That all right there could shave up to a million off of the cost of the show. And that's all, of course, if it's losing money.

Which, by all accounts of it getting a $1 million dollar prize pot, 19 episodes + a two part reunion, and a decently large cast of 32, it's still a money maker.

i was looking at the ratings of cable shows the last few days and the challenge’s demo is actually pretty good. its the same as shows like below deck, the valley, and real housewives of orange county. and their demo was higher than other shows like real housewives of miami, love and hip hop, worst cooks in america, and basketball wives.

we're good 

Drag race on the same network was doing 600k-890k every episode this season... It is not a cable issue it's a producers issue

That's not entirely accurate. Drag Race's premiere pulled 671k back in January and ended at 867k in April. Other than those, only three episodes were above 790k: (794k, 870k, and 984k). So four of 16 episodes above 790k. The other eleven episodes ranged from 424k to 591k, with more than half in the 424k to 550k range. It's significantly higher than The Challenge, but very much inconsistent and not like it's pulling 750k a week. The average for the season was 614k.

You're cherry picking a single show not on MTV.  Compare it to MTV.  It's doing fine...if not great.  

Drag Race is on MTV.

Thanks for correcting me--that's very impressive for that show

It's actually unbelievable MTV doesn't stream this show on ANY platform next day. I can't think of a single current show like that. I mean Stars, Zeus, nothing. That's just crazy and makes no sense. 

They must now upload the episodes to XVideos.

maybe cara was right that they should stick to just AMERICANS Smile

Whatever the issue is with streaming it must be addressed and resolved immediately. I've seen people saying Bravo shows ratings are awful and dropping but then Peacock released numbers showing the show was thriving. 

Whatever the issue is with streaming it must be addressed and resolved immediately. I've seen people saying Bravo shows ratings are awful and dropping but then Peacock released numbers showing the show was thriving. 

It's all about accessibility. People are still watching tv. More than ever actually because it's too damn expensive to do anything else.

Whatever the issue is with streaming it must be addressed and resolved immediately. I've seen people saying Bravo shows ratings are awful and dropping but then Peacock released numbers showing the show was thriving. 

yea people thought real housewives of miami was going to get canceled because it's ratings were similar to the challenge but it immediately got renewed for another season because it's peacock numbers are high.

We've been yelling at the clouds for them to get on a streaming platform for what feels like years now they still haven't listened 

If new episodes can immediately be put on Paramount the next day in Canada why not the same in the US ? It's totally doable they just don't want to do it 

We've been yelling at the clouds for them to get on a streaming platform for what feels like years now they still haven't listened 

If new episodes can immediately be put on Paramount the next day in Canada why not the same in the US ? It's totally doable they just don't want to do it 

Canada and Australia get to stream the new episodes a couple days after? That's exactly why I'm watching this shit illegally 

Challenge fasn so funny. they hate the "vacation allaince" so theyre just bringing up excuses as to why this floopped, talking about cable/etc when all stars 5 aired just some months back and it wasnt this bad. this is called COPE. if devin and tori were apart of this season we would be hearing how they need to stop getting calls.

pink rose on twitter talking about they should ve have promoted olivia lmao when shes like the least recognized/ liked winne rin love island history 

pink rose on twitter talking about they should ve have promoted olivia lmao when shes like the least recognized/ liked winne rin love island history 

You all pretend who you like are the people that matter--based solely on Wednesday's episode this season is going to largely center around Theo/Olivia vs the Veterans as long as they're all there.   They definitely should have promoted her (and a few others) more.   No one cares about what happened on Love Island.

 

pink rose on twitter talking about they should ve have promoted olivia lmao when shes like the least recognized/ liked winne rin love island history 

You all pretend who you like are the people that matter--based solely on Wednesday's episode this season is going to largely center around Theo/Olivia vs the Veterans as long as they're all there.   They definitely should have promoted her (and a few others) more.   No one cares about what happened on Love Island.

her whole point was because shes from love island you *******. so before you try to argue why dont you look at the full statement 

 

 

pink rose on twitter talking about they should ve have promoted olivia lmao when shes like the least recognized/ liked winne rin love island history 

You all pretend who you like are the people that matter--based solely on Wednesday's episode this season is going to largely center around Theo/Olivia vs the Veterans as long as they're all there.   They definitely should have promoted her (and a few others) more.   No one cares about what happened on Love Island.

her whole point was because shes from love island you *******. so before you try to argue why dont you look at the full statement 

The whole point of what?  Least liked is your opinion.  She apparently won and is known.  I love the anger over you not wanting her to be given attention that she should be over bias. 

Olivia is the most forgettable winner in LIUSA history no love island fan cares about Olivia enough to watch this show is what I think MrWade is trying to explain but you would rather play stupid as you always do just to have a debate per usual 

In fact scratch that you don't play stupid you actually are stupid 

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