You can be vocal about working with whoever the HELL you want to work with, that's the problem with the show & most of its viewers now......this frail *** "you don't say John/CT/Trash/Cara Maria's names if you don't wanna go home" mentality is so utterly pathetic & is exactly why people want certain castmembers to get their shot and also why people think it's very suspicious certain castmembers don't get their shot. It's not rocket science.I'm waiting for an explanation of why CeeJai/Tyara haven't appeared yet that isn't some tired horseshit explanation pull out from whoever's ***. As well as one for Katrina, Jamie Larson, Dylan, why Marlon hasn't returned, etc. even Dione when they've let that trashy ***** terrorize both castmembers AND production themselves.
Exactly they have SO MANY options to choose from but noooo lets cast people from completely different shows from different networks and countries! ZZZZZZZ
CeeJai never went around telling Jenna (the one she beat up or Compono) she hoped she died & wanted to kill them; she never went around calling people racial slurs & certainly doesn't have a HISTORY of doing it.....CT got into the worst "fight" (which was basically him chasing Adam around the house) in the show's history but they surely didn't waste time bringing him back into the fold; he even came back & showed out some more at least once on every Challenge he's been on since then. How are you going to say with a straight face that CeeJai's "uninsurable" but CT is? Get the **** out of here with that shit.Keep in mind, they deliberately pushed CeeJai to that point. All season she was chilling, throughout all the dumb shit that redneck ***** said.......at the moment production should've removed the ***** from the house (when she put hands on CeeJai FIRST when she pushed her), they didn't do that because they wanted to push that envelope & see how far they could go with it. So when she's finally had enough & puts hands on the *****, she's "uninsurable" even though production instigated that whole altercation from jump? Once again, **** outta here with that bullshit.
EXACTLY!!! The CT fight destroys the argument that Ceejai's fight is why she hasn't been cast. That season pissed me off so bad. They were poking Ceej with a hot stick until she exploded.
CeeJai never went around telling Jenna (the one she beat up or Compono) she hoped she died & wanted to kill them; she never went around calling people racial slurs & certainly doesn't have a HISTORY of doing it.....CT got into the worst "fight" (which was basically him chasing Adam around the house) in the show's history but they surely didn't waste time bringing him back into the fold; he even came back & showed out some more at least once on every Challenge he's been on since then. How are you going to say with a straight face that CeeJai's "uninsurable" but CT is? Get the **** out of here with that shit.Keep in mind, they deliberately pushed CeeJai to that point. All season she was chilling, throughout all the dumb shit that redneck ***** said.......at the moment production should've removed the ***** from the house (when she put hands on CeeJai FIRST when she pushed her), they didn't do that because they wanted to push that envelope & see how far they could go with it. So when she's finally had enough & puts hands on the *****, she's "uninsurable" even though production instigated that whole altercation from jump? Once again, **** outta here with that bullshit.
So now production is responsible for their actions. Gotcha. CT is only back because he's s cash cow and worth the price. Just like Veronica and Coral.
People can target anyone and everyone you just don't make it obvious that you're targeting those that "more often than not" have the power because they actually win missions.
From the newer RW seasons many of the favorites haven’t been casted Jenny, Brian, Jamie, Violetta, Jason, Madison, CeeJai’, Dylan, Katrina, Tyara, Robbie & Jenn.
Violetta, CeeJai & Jason are ones that will probably never be brought on as they are considered liabilities.
Jenny, Brian, Jamie & Dylan have been contacted but production has never really seen intrest in any besides Dylan although he was an alternates twice.
Robbie, Tyara, Jenn, Madison and Katrina have all been contracted and dropped. Robbie was initially casted for Invasion, but later dropped out he was contacted for future season but always gets dropped (mainly for him dropping his only chance of possibly being on). Jenn declines Dirty 30 and didn’t receive a call for Vendettas. Tyara and Katrina were both locks for Vendettas but we’re later dropped as they didn’t fit the theme. Madison is an alternate for this season.
CeeJai never went around telling Jenna (the one she beat up or Compono) she hoped she died & wanted to kill them; she never went around calling people racial slurs & certainly doesn't have a HISTORY of doing it.....CT got into the worst "fight" (which was basically him chasing Adam around the house) in the show's history but they surely didn't waste time bringing him back into the fold; he even came back & showed out some more at least once on every Challenge he's been on since then. How are you going to say with a straight face that CeeJai's "uninsurable" but CT is? Get the **** out of here with that shit.Keep in mind, they deliberately pushed CeeJai to that point. All season she was chilling, throughout all the dumb shit that redneck ***** said.......at the moment production should've removed the ***** from the house (when she put hands on CeeJai FIRST when she pushed her), they didn't do that because they wanted to push that envelope & see how far they could go with it. So when she's finally had enough & puts hands on the *****, she's "uninsurable" even though production instigated that whole altercation from jump? Once again, **** outta here with that bullshit.
EXACTLY!!! The CT fight destroys the argument that Ceejai's fight is why she hasn't been cast. That season pissed me off so bad. They were poking Ceej with a hot stick until she exploded.
Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
Tyler A.? She's her own reason for not being cast, even if I do like her.If I remember correctly, she didn't want to be there either? Or she didn't like her experience, something like that.
I asked her in her Dm on IG and she said she would love to do one.
Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
So now production is responsible for their actions. Gotcha. CT is only back because he's s cash cow and worth the price. Just like Veronica and Coral. People can target anyone and everyone you just don't make it obvious that you're targeting those that "more often than not" have the power because they actually win missions.
That's not what Graphik meant by that. He's saying that production never intervened until it was too late. They let it be a storyline and never got involved until Ceejai lost her cool. Then they punish her by not casting her on The Challenge where she'd bring competition (something you value) and could have a great redepmtion arc. I just think she deserves a shot at redemption like others have been afforded.
Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
how is that comparable to CT after he did multiple seasons. The fan base isn't even close and you know it. No one watched the Real World at the end.
kvm1977 wrote:Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
how is that comparable to CT after he did multiple seasons. The fan base isn't even close and you know it. No one watched the Real World at the end.
EXACTLY he did multiple. You can't say she isn't a cash cow until she shows up, right? That's the problem. CT didn't become a staple until he did a few, same with Derrick K, V, Coral. They're known for The Challenge moreso than their original show.
Tyler A.? She's her own reason for not being cast, even if I do like her.If I remember correctly, she didn't want to be there either? Or she didn't like her experience, something like that.
I asked her in her Dm on IG and she said she would love to do one.
Oh.
I'd much prefer Tyler A. over Clowniana, Christina, Snaggletooth, DysenTori, or most of the AYTO girls they reach out to. I just know they won't bother with her for reasons she brought on herself.
So now production is responsible for their actions. Gotcha. CT is only back because he's s cash cow and worth the price. Just like Veronica and Coral. People can target anyone and everyone you just don't make it obvious that you're targeting those that "more often than not" have the power because they actually win missions.
That's not what Graphik meant by that. He's saying that production never intervened until it was too late. They let it be a storyline and never got involved until Ceejai lost her cool. Then they punish her by not casting her on The Challenge where she'd bring competition (something you value) and could have a great redepmtion arc. I just think she deserves a shot at redemption like others have been afforded.
Thats all well and good aside from the fact people are playing the race card. I'd be fine if she shows up. She's a liability because of her actions. She's solely responsible for whatever she did
kvm1977 wrote:Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
how is that comparable to CT after he did multiple seasons. The fan base isn't even close and you know it. No one watched the Real World at the end.
I'm just saying how stupid MTV is. They want ratings yet don't cast the fan favorite of bad blood, or the girl with the most followers from Skeletons, or a girl who SAVED her season of Real World. It's ridiculous to me!
hardbitten wrote:Tyler A.? She's her own reason for not being cast, even if I do like her.If I remember correctly, she didn't want to be there either? Or she didn't like her experience, something like that.
I asked her in her Dm on IG and she said she would love to do one.
Oh.I'd much prefer Tyler A. over Clowniana, Christina, Snaggletooth, DysenTori, or most of the AYTO girls they reach out to. I just know they won't bother with her for reasons she brought on herself.
Yea and it's such a Shane! She had some good moments on AYTO2 and could've been a good competitor.
kvm1977 wrote:Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
how is that comparable to CT after he did multiple seasons. The fan base isn't even close and you know it. No one watched the Real World at the end.
EXACTLY he did multiple. You can't say she isn't a cash cow until she shows up, right? That's the problem. CT didn't become a staple until he did a few, same with Derrick K, V, Coral. They're known for The Challenge moreso than their original show.
But he wasn't a liability when he did the first few challenges. There's a huge difference. CeeJai might add a ton but there's no guarantee unlike CT when he came back after his ban. Cutthroat saved him in all honesty.
kvm1977 wrote:Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
how is that comparable to CT after he did multiple seasons. The fan base isn't even close and you know it. No one watched the Real World at the end.
EXACTLY he did multiple. You can't say she isn't a cash cow until she shows up, right? That's the problem. CT didn't become a staple until he did a few, same with Derrick K, V, Coral. They're known for The Challenge moreso than their original show.
But he wasn't a liability when he did the first few challenges. There's a huge difference. CeeJai might add a ton but there's no guarantee unlike CT when he came back after his ban. Cutthroat saved him in all honesty.
Fair point. But Nia also got into multiple fights on her RW season. But she came on. So that's why I'm not seeing why Ceejai would be a liability. I mean even Ty from DC was on after he almost killed one of his cast members.
So now production is responsible for their actions. Gotcha. CT is only back because he's s cash cow and worth the price. Just like Veronica and Coral. People can target anyone and everyone you just don't make it obvious that you're targeting those that "more often than not" have the power because they actually win missions.
I don't give a **** about him being a "cash cow". CT didn't even get super popular until his return with the Cutthroat moment & then him returning for Rivals. As somebody who's been watching from CT's first season until now, most people didn't care much for him for the most part. He pissed most people off with his actions on Inferno 3 (let's not forget this man has MULTIPLE incidents in which he's gotten kicked off), Gauntlet 3 where he displayed a lot of the same actions he's currently displaying on Dirty 30, and Duel 2 which I've already explained.
Production is responsible for THEIR OWN actions; their actions in the past have shown that they truly don't give a shit whether you're violent or even about this whole "sexual assault" bullshit (because let's not act like John didn't love ripping girls tops off & getting in the shower/tub with them uninvited; we also won't forget how they originally handled the whole Evan/Kenny/Tonya deal & STILL basically said "she brought it on herself"), so they can stop acting like certain castmembers are just so much more dangerous than others when they've made 3 of the main culprits of these "acts" the faces of the show.
kvm1977 wrote:Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
how is that comparable to CT after he did multiple seasons. The fan base isn't even close and you know it. No one watched the Real World at the end.
EXACTLY he did multiple. You can't say she isn't a cash cow until she shows up, right? That's the problem. CT didn't become a staple until he did a few, same with Derrick K, V, Coral. They're known for The Challenge moreso than their original show.
But he wasn't a liability when he did the first few challenges. There's a huge difference. CeeJai might add a ton but there's no guarantee unlike CT when he came back after his ban. Cutthroat saved him in all honesty.
I just think she deserves a chance. And she is quite obviously wanted to debut.
It really doesn't matter whether CT was a liability his first few seasons or not. His first few seasons nobody really cared much about CT aside from him doing good in the missions & they still thought he was an ******* with something to prove. What matters is what he DID do & the fact that he's gotten multiple chances while others have not. Period.
Now let's keep in mind, he definitely could've been viewed as a liability from his Paris season alone. Punching Parisians in the street & pushing Adam + getting in his face telling him he'll "work" him are all reasons to view him as a "liability" but they surely weren't.......
the only voice i heard in that video was devin shane and jemmeye lol idk how you guys are making out everyone else
oh and i hope devyn really isn’t on this like devyn? she just wouldn’t fit in i feel like.
Exactly they have SO MANY options to choose from but noooo lets cast people from completely different shows from different networks and countries! ZZZZZZZ
EXACTLY!!! The CT fight destroys the argument that Ceejai's fight is why she hasn't been cast. That season pissed me off so bad. They were poking Ceej with a hot stick until she exploded.
Yeah lets be real if CT was/is insurable then there's no reason why Ceejai shouldn't be.
So now production is responsible for their actions. Gotcha. CT is only back because he's s cash cow and worth the price. Just like Veronica and Coral.
People can target anyone and everyone you just don't make it obvious that you're targeting those that "more often than not" have the power because they actually win missions.
From the newer RW seasons many of the favorites haven’t been casted Jenny, Brian, Jamie, Violetta, Jason, Madison, CeeJai’, Dylan, Katrina, Tyara, Robbie & Jenn.
Violetta, CeeJai & Jason are ones that will probably never be brought on as they are considered liabilities.
Jenny, Brian, Jamie & Dylan have been contacted but production has never really seen intrest in any besides Dylan although he was an alternates twice.
Robbie, Tyara, Jenn, Madison and Katrina have all been contracted and dropped. Robbie was initially casted for Invasion, but later dropped out he was contacted for future season but always gets dropped (mainly for him dropping his only chance of possibly being on). Jenn declines Dirty 30 and didn’t receive a call for Vendettas. Tyara and Katrina were both locks for Vendettas but we’re later dropped as they didn’t fit the theme. Madison is an alternate for this season.
Tyler A.? She's her own reason for not being cast, even if I do like her.
If I remember correctly, she didn't want to be there either? Or she didn't like her experience, something like that.
THAT ************* PART!!!
Anyone can be insured (except those due to a sexual assault Kenny Nia Evan Dustin I think) but is it worth the price? CeeJai isn't. CT is. At least to production. It had nothing to do with her race or who'd she would work with. Why is V make if it's all about John? Or Britni? Or Jemmye?
I asked her in her Dm on IG and she said she would love to do one.
CeeJai was a trending topic on her season though....
That's not what Graphik meant by that. He's saying that production never intervened until it was too late. They let it be a storyline and never got involved until Ceejai lost her cool. Then they punish her by not casting her on The Challenge where she'd bring competition (something you value) and could have a great redepmtion arc. I just think she deserves a shot at redemption like others have been afforded.
how is that comparable to CT after he did multiple seasons. The fan base isn't even close and you know it. No one watched the Real World at the end.
I can’t belive jem is still there lol
EXACTLY he did multiple. You can't say she isn't a cash cow until she shows up, right? That's the problem. CT didn't become a staple until he did a few, same with Derrick K, V, Coral. They're known for The Challenge moreso than their original show.
Oh.
I'd much prefer Tyler A. over Clowniana, Christina, Snaggletooth, DysenTori, or most of the AYTO girls they reach out to. I just know they won't bother with her for reasons she brought on herself.
Thats all well and good aside from the fact people are playing the race card. I'd be fine if she shows up. She's a liability because of her actions. She's solely responsible for whatever she did
I'm just saying how stupid MTV is. They want ratings yet don't cast the fan favorite of bad blood, or the girl with the most followers from Skeletons, or a girl who SAVED her season of Real World. It's ridiculous to me!
Yea and it's such a Shane! She had some good moments on AYTO2 and could've been a good competitor.
But he wasn't a liability when he did the first few challenges. There's a huge difference. CeeJai might add a ton but there's no guarantee unlike CT when he came back after his ban. Cutthroat saved him in all honesty.
Production also ignored old schoolers for years. They aren't the best and there's valid criticism. Racism isn't one of them.
Fair point. But Nia also got into multiple fights on her RW season. But she came on. So that's why I'm not seeing why Ceejai would be a liability. I mean even Ty from DC was on after he almost killed one of his cast members.
I don't give a **** about him being a "cash cow". CT didn't even get super popular until his return with the Cutthroat moment & then him returning for Rivals. As somebody who's been watching from CT's first season until now, most people didn't care much for him for the most part. He pissed most people off with his actions on Inferno 3 (let's not forget this man has MULTIPLE incidents in which he's gotten kicked off), Gauntlet 3 where he displayed a lot of the same actions he's currently displaying on Dirty 30, and Duel 2 which I've already explained.
Production is responsible for THEIR OWN actions; their actions in the past have shown that they truly don't give a shit whether you're violent or even about this whole "sexual assault" bullshit (because let's not act like John didn't love ripping girls tops off & getting in the shower/tub with them uninvited; we also won't forget how they originally handled the whole Evan/Kenny/Tonya deal & STILL basically said "she brought it on herself"), so they can stop acting like certain castmembers are just so much more dangerous than others when they've made 3 of the main culprits of these "acts" the faces of the show.
I just think she deserves a chance. And she is quite obviously wanted to debut.
All I know is, I'm bored of watching the same people.
If they don't clean up their act for next season, I'll definitely not watch.
Youre not alone.
It really doesn't matter whether CT was a liability his first few seasons or not. His first few seasons nobody really cared much about CT aside from him doing good in the missions & they still thought he was an ******* with something to prove. What matters is what he DID do & the fact that he's gotten multiple chances while others have not. Period.
Now let's keep in mind, he definitely could've been viewed as a liability from his Paris season alone. Punching Parisians in the street & pushing Adam + getting in his face telling him he'll "work" him are all reasons to view him as a "liability" but they surely weren't.......
Thing is, they have nothing to lose by trying something new... At least, imo, that's what it currently looks like lmao.
Either mix in some new RW faces with the veterans and give everyone a fair shot. Or do one season of new faces/people who haven't been back in awhile.
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