The Challenge: Vendettas (Season 31) - Spoilers Discussion

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kvm1977 wrote:

Calogero wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:The black women aren't going home early because they're black.  They're going home because they're weak competitors that don't have strong allies.  With this "partner but individual" final set up weak girls are going to get picked off early and often.   I'd be stunned if Kailah & Cara aren't in the final barring a purge type elimination taking them out.  Not a lot of strong girls on this season

But The issue is that MTV constantly casts weak black girls. They have a pretty good selection yet they purposely keep out the girls they know could perform.

You're delusional if you think they're afraid of balck women doing well.   Coral made this show long ago and they'd take her back any time she wants to show up.

They've proven it. By casting Anika, Simone, Toya, Cheyenne, Jasmine. They could easily cast stronger black women like Tyara and Ceejai even Naomi from Ex on The Beach or ShaMonique/ Lexus from 90's house. It's not delusion. 

Anika had potential and she actually WON against Jenna but doubt we'll ever see her again. I like Toya and Cheyenne but they're not that impressive Chey got lucky she got the chance to come back and go to the final on Rivals. LaToya just always gets ****** over by the seasons "twists". Jasmine is a solid competitor. When will production cast Tya and CeeJai'. I see them having an alliance and not taking shit from any of the vets. Out of the 2 I see Tya debuting first and only her. CeeJai' will never be asked due to her ******* Jenna T up, classic!

realityprimetime wrote:
OK, here's an unofficial elimination chart based on what I've gathered so far.  Red - Eliminated, Yellow - Toss up, and Green - Safe.

lol Devyn is not a rookie. She’s a 2-time Challenge finalist.

LOL, yeah, I realized that right after I posted it.  Should be fixed now.

Calogero wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:The black women aren't going home early because they're black.  They're going home because they're weak competitors that don't have strong allies.  With this "partner but individual" final set up weak girls are going to get picked off early and often.   I'd be stunned if Kailah & Cara aren't in the final barring a purge type elimination taking them out.  Not a lot of strong girls on this season

But The issue is that MTV constantly casts weak black girls. They have a pretty good selection yet they purposely keep out the girls they know could perform.

You're delusional if you think they're afraid of balck women doing well.   Coral made this show long ago and they'd take her back any time she wants to show up.

They've proven it. By casting Anika, Simone, Toya, Cheyenne, Jasmine. They could easily cast stronger black women like Tyara and Ceejai even Naomi from Ex on The Beach or ShaMonique/ Lexus from 90's house. It's not delusion. 

Yes, you're delusional.   I love when people act like people they've never seen are going to be amazing.  If you want to blame them for not casting more athletic and more intelligent women on The Real World and other shows that's fine but there isn't a strong pool of black women (or women in general) to pick from.  Recently only Tori, Kailah & Ashley M have even done something slightly impressive.  What makes you think Tyara, Naomi or CeeJai would actually perform well?  Hope.   No one has been cast from "90s House" so that's not even a valid argument.  They'd gladly cast women like Coral, Nia (if she was insurable) and countless others.   They've never avoided casting minorites...and strong ones....never.   Just you trying to play a race card that doesn't exist.  ******* pathetic. 

But they do have a point KVM! When you have people such as Tyara, Nia, CeeJai, Naomi, Chelsey, and Tyler sitting at home that want to do The Challenge, why chose Toya, Simone, Alicia, Devyn, Cheyenne, and Jasmine?!?!? That further proves the point that they are scared to cast an athletic black girl that can do some damage on this show.

Calogero wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:The black women aren't going home early because they're black.  They're going home because they're weak competitors that don't have strong allies.  With this "partner but individual" final set up weak girls are going to get picked off early and often.   I'd be stunned if Kailah & Cara aren't in the final barring a purge type elimination taking them out.  Not a lot of strong girls on this season

But The issue is that MTV constantly casts weak black girls. They have a pretty good selection yet they purposely keep out the girls they know could perform.

You're delusional if you think they're afraid of balck women doing well.   Coral made this show long ago and they'd take her back any time she wants to show up.

They've proven it. By casting Anika, Simone, Toya, Cheyenne, Jasmine. They could easily cast stronger black women like Tyara and Ceejai even Naomi from Ex on The Beach or ShaMonique/ Lexus from 90's house. It's not delusion. 

Anika had potential and she actually WON against Jenna but doubt we'll ever see her again. I like Toya and Cheyenne but they're not that impressive Chey got lucky she got the chance to come back and go to the final on Rivals. LaToya just always gets ****** over by the seasons "twists". Jasmine is a solid competitor. When will production cast Tya and CeeJai'. I see them having an alliance and not taking shit from any of the vets. Out of the 2 I see Tya debuting first and only her. CeeJai' will never be asked due to her ******* Jenna T up, classic!

If that's the reason she doesn't get casted then that is complete BS. So many other people have gotten into worse fights for less valid reasons. With the whole Camilla thing going on I would've thought Ceejai would've at least gotten a call. 

OK, here's an unofficial elimination chart based on what I've gathered so far.  Red - Eliminated, Yellow - Toss up, and Green - Safe.

I don't want to sound critical but did you really take the time to make this? Lol

Didn't CeeJai get called for this season, but had to go to school?

Didn't CeeJai get called for this season, but had to go to school?

I really hope that’s true because if they keep this individual format it means she’ll probably be casted in the future. She needs to come, dominate, get that money for law school. 

realityprimetime wrote:
OK, here's an unofficial elimination chart based on what I've gathered so far.  Red - Eliminated, Yellow - Toss up, and Green - Safe.

I don't want to sound critical but did you really take the time to make this? Lol

Lol, ya, you're welcome.

kvm1977 wrote:

Calogero wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:The black women aren't going home early because they're black.  They're going home because they're weak competitors that don't have strong allies.  With this "partner but individual" final set up weak girls are going to get picked off early and often.   I'd be stunned if Kailah & Cara aren't in the final barring a purge type elimination taking them out.  Not a lot of strong girls on this season

But The issue is that MTV constantly casts weak black girls. They have a pretty good selection yet they purposely keep out the girls they know could perform.

You're delusional if you think they're afraid of balck women doing well.   Coral made this show long ago and they'd take her back any time she wants to show up.

They've proven it. By casting Anika, Simone, Toya, Cheyenne, Jasmine. They could easily cast stronger black women like Tyara and Ceejai even Naomi from Ex on The Beach or ShaMonique/ Lexus from 90's house. It's not delusion. 

Yes, you're delusional.   I love when people act like people they've never seen are going to be amazing.  If you want to blame them for not casting more athletic and more intelligent women on The Real World and other shows that's fine but there isn't a strong pool of black women (or women in general) to pick from.  Recently only Tori, Kailah & Ashley M have even done something slightly impressive.  What makes you think Tyara, Naomi or CeeJai would actually perform well?  Hope.   No one has been cast from "90s House" so that's not even a valid argument.  They'd gladly cast women like Coral, Nia (if she was insurable) and countless others.   They've never avoided casting minorites...and strong ones....never.   Just you trying to play a race card that doesn't exist.  ******* pathetic. 

But they do have a point KVM! When you have people such as Tyara, Nia, CeeJai, Naomi, Chelsey, and Tyler sitting at home that want to do The Challenge, why chose Toya, Simone, Alicia, Devyn, Cheyenne, and Jasmine?!?!? That further proves the point that they are scared to cast an athletic black girl that can do some damage on this show.

They don't.  Who said those girls actually want to do a challenge.  I'm rpetty sure at least 2 turned down calls.  I've never even heardd of 2 of them being mentioned.  And Nia would be cast if they could insure her.  Nia's also one of the worst people I've ever seen on this show during missions.  Solid in eliminations because of her size but not a great athlete.   Again, MTV offers Coral a lot of cash to show up.  Coral dominated shit when she was on the show.  Camila's a minority.  I don't believe Cara is white (could be wrong).  Veronica's a minority.   This is all nonsense.  Pure bias.

thechallengemania wrote:

Calogero wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:The black women aren't going home early because they're black.  They're going home because they're weak competitors that don't have strong allies.  With this "partner but individual" final set up weak girls are going to get picked off early and often.   I'd be stunned if Kailah & Cara aren't in the final barring a purge type elimination taking them out.  Not a lot of strong girls on this season

But The issue is that MTV constantly casts weak black girls. They have a pretty good selection yet they purposely keep out the girls they know could perform.

You're delusional if you think they're afraid of balck women doing well.   Coral made this show long ago and they'd take her back any time she wants to show up.

They've proven it. By casting Anika, Simone, Toya, Cheyenne, Jasmine. They could easily cast stronger black women like Tyara and Ceejai even Naomi from Ex on The Beach or ShaMonique/ Lexus from 90's house. It's not delusion. 

Anika had potential and she actually WON against Jenna but doubt we'll ever see her again. I like Toya and Cheyenne but they're not that impressive Chey got lucky she got the chance to come back and go to the final on Rivals. LaToya just always gets ****** over by the seasons "twists". Jasmine is a solid competitor. When will production cast Tya and CeeJai'. I see them having an alliance and not taking shit from any of the vets. Out of the 2 I see Tya debuting first and only her. CeeJai' will never be asked due to her ******* Jenna T up, classic!

If that's the reason she doesn't get casted then that is complete BS. So many other people have gotten into worse fights for less valid reasons. With the whole Camilla thing going on I would've thought Ceejai would've at least gotten a call. 

Casted is not a word....why do you keep saying she didn't get a call?

realityprimetime wrote:
OK, here's an unofficial elimination chart based on what I've gathered so far.  Red - Eliminated, Yellow - Toss up, and Green - Safe.

I don't want to sound critical but did you really take the time to make this? Lol

You're acting like it was time consuming.  You can do that in Excel in 3 minutes

Didn't CeeJai get called for this season, but had to go to school?

No

I like this season when we thought there was teams of 4 :(. Hopefully a twist where the final is a team type final. But you know only one winner per gender each season. (Who are the same winners)

I’m devestated thotlicia but she was still the star of the episodes she was in

DollKilla wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:The black women aren't going home early because they're black.  They're going home because they're weak competitors that don't have strong allies.  With this "partner but individual" final set up weak girls are going to get picked off early and often.   I'd be stunned if Kailah & Cara aren't in the final barring a purge type elimination taking them out.  Not a lot of strong girls on this season

But The issue is that MTV constantly casts weak black girls. They have a pretty good selection yet they purposely keep out the girls they know could perform.

You're delusional if you think they're afraid of balck women doing well.   Coral made this show long ago and they'd take her back any time she wants to show up.

They've proven it. By casting Anika, Simone, Toya, Cheyenne, Jasmine. They could easily cast stronger black women like Tyara and Ceejai even Naomi from Ex on The Beach or ShaMonique/ Lexus from 90's house. It's not delusion. 

Yes, you're delusional.   I love when people act like people they've never seen are going to be amazing.  If you want to blame them for not casting more athletic and more intelligent women on The Real World and other shows that's fine but there isn't a strong pool of black women (or women in general) to pick from.  Recently only Tori, Kailah & Ashley M have even done something slightly impressive.  What makes you think Tyara, Naomi or CeeJai would actually perform well?  Hope.   No one has been cast from "90s House" so that's not even a valid argument.  They'd gladly cast women like Coral, Nia (if she was insurable) and countless others.   They've never avoided casting minorites...and strong ones....never.   Just you trying to play a race card that doesn't exist.  ******* pathetic. 

But they do have a point KVM! When you have people such as Tyara, Nia, CeeJai, Naomi, Chelsey, and Tyler sitting at home that want to do The Challenge, why chose Toya, Simone, Alicia, Devyn, Cheyenne, and Jasmine?!?!? That further proves the point that they are scared to cast an athletic black girl that can do some damage on this show.

They don't.  Who said those girls actually want to do a challenge.  I'm rpetty sure at least 2 turned down calls.  I've never even heardd of 2 of them being mentioned.  And Nia would be cast if they could insure her.  Nia's also one of the worst people I've ever seen on this show during missions.  Solid in eliminations because of her size but not a great athlete.   Again, MTV offers Coral a lot of cash to show up.  Coral dominated shit when she was on the show.  Camila's a minority.  I don't believe Cara is white (could be wrong).  Veronica's a minority.   This is all nonsense.  Pure bias.

We're not talking about ALL minorities. We're talking about BLACK GIRLS ON THE CHALLENGE! All the girls I mentioned want to do a challenge. I KNOW this for a fact, so why won't they be casted? Oh that's right, because MTV wants to protect their puppets! I know for a fact that CeeJai would send Cara Maria home in anything (besides a crapshoot).

Personally CeeJai' would be a great addition to the challenge. She's an alpha female and her alliances would be with the guys I could see her being a part of the Young Bucks alliance. 

Tyara was by far my favorite on Bad Blood but I don't see why production contacts her and just drops her. She's very vocal on how she feel and wouldn't kiss the vets *****. She'll play her on game and possibly align with Veronica, Jemmye, Britni & Sylvia.

MTV is holding back on both of them because of what Ceejai' did on her season. They don't want that to happen on the challenge which is why they cast the 'weaker' black girls.

I like this season when we thought there was teams of 4 :(. Hopefully a twist where the final is a team type final. But you know only one winner per gender each season. (Who are the same winners)

Not going to lie.   I'd really like to see the Seasons format again if we can't just have a big team challenge

kvm1977 wrote:

DollKilla wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
Calogero wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:The black women aren't going home early because they're black.  They're going home because they're weak competitors that don't have strong allies.  With this "partner but individual" final set up weak girls are going to get picked off early and often.   I'd be stunned if Kailah & Cara aren't in the final barring a purge type elimination taking them out.  Not a lot of strong girls on this season

But The issue is that MTV constantly casts weak black girls. They have a pretty good selection yet they purposely keep out the girls they know could perform.

You're delusional if you think they're afraid of balck women doing well.   Coral made this show long ago and they'd take her back any time she wants to show up.

They've proven it. By casting Anika, Simone, Toya, Cheyenne, Jasmine. They could easily cast stronger black women like Tyara and Ceejai even Naomi from Ex on The Beach or ShaMonique/ Lexus from 90's house. It's not delusion. 

Yes, you're delusional.   I love when people act like people they've never seen are going to be amazing.  If you want to blame them for not casting more athletic and more intelligent women on The Real World and other shows that's fine but there isn't a strong pool of black women (or women in general) to pick from.  Recently only Tori, Kailah & Ashley M have even done something slightly impressive.  What makes you think Tyara, Naomi or CeeJai would actually perform well?  Hope.   No one has been cast from "90s House" so that's not even a valid argument.  They'd gladly cast women like Coral, Nia (if she was insurable) and countless others.   They've never avoided casting minorites...and strong ones....never.   Just you trying to play a race card that doesn't exist.  ******* pathetic. 

But they do have a point KVM! When you have people such as Tyara, Nia, CeeJai, Naomi, Chelsey, and Tyler sitting at home that want to do The Challenge, why chose Toya, Simone, Alicia, Devyn, Cheyenne, and Jasmine?!?!? That further proves the point that they are scared to cast an athletic black girl that can do some damage on this show.

They don't.  Who said those girls actually want to do a challenge.  I'm rpetty sure at least 2 turned down calls.  I've never even heardd of 2 of them being mentioned.  And Nia would be cast if they could insure her.  Nia's also one of the worst people I've ever seen on this show during missions.  Solid in eliminations because of her size but not a great athlete.   Again, MTV offers Coral a lot of cash to show up.  Coral dominated shit when she was on the show.  Camila's a minority.  I don't believe Cara is white (could be wrong).  Veronica's a minority.   This is all nonsense.  Pure bias.

We're not talking about ALL minorities. We're talking about BLACK GIRLS ON THE CHALLENGE! All the girls I mentioned want to do a challenge. I KNOW this for a fact, so why won't they be casted? Oh that's right, because MTV wants to protect their puppets! I know for a fact that CeeJai would send Cara Maria home in anything (besides a crapshoot).

Screw sending home Cara (even though she would), I want her to eliminiate Kailah for all that shit talking she does on Twitter. She's obsessed with Ceej.

Personally CeeJai' would be a great addition to the challenge. She's an alpha female and her alliances would be with the guys I could see her being a part of the Young Bucks alliance. Tyara was by far my favorite on Bad Blood but I don't see why production contacts her and just drops her. She's very vocal on how she feel and wouldn't kiss the vets *****. She'll play her on game and possibly align with Veronica, Jemmye, Britni & Sylvia.MTV is holding back on both of them because of what Ceejai' did on her season. They don't want that to happen on the challenge which is why they cast the 'weaker' black girls.

What did Ceejai "do" on her season?

If anyone is going to be dumb enough to be vocal about wanting to work with Cory (who sucks) and Nelson (who's solid) there's no point in them showing up.  They won't be around long.

Chicken_breast wrote:

I like this season when we thought there was teams of 4 :(. Hopefully a twist where the final is a team type final. But you know only one winner per gender each season. (Who are the same winners)

Not going to lie.   I'd really like to see the Seasons format again if we can't just have a big team challenge

thechallengemania wrote:

Personally CeeJai' would be a great addition to the challenge. She's an alpha female and her alliances would be with the guys I could see her being a part of the Young Bucks alliance. Tyara was by far my favorite on Bad Blood but I don't see why production contacts her and just drops her. She's very vocal on how she feel and wouldn't kiss the vets *****. She'll play her on game and possibly align with Veronica, Jemmye, Britni & Sylvia.MTV is holding back on both of them because of what Ceejai' did on her season. They don't want that to happen on the challenge which is why they cast the 'weaker' black girls.

What did Ceejai "do" on her season?If anyone is going to be dumb enough to be vocal about wanting to work with Cory (who sucks) and Nelson (who's solid) there's no point in them showing up.  They won't be around long.

She whooped a *****'s *** that's what she did!

kvm1977 wrote:

thechallengemania wrote:Personally CeeJai' would be a great addition to the challenge. She's an alpha female and her alliances would be with the guys I could see her being a part of the Young Bucks alliance. Tyara was by far my favorite on Bad Blood but I don't see why production contacts her and just drops her. She's very vocal on how she feel and wouldn't kiss the vets *****. She'll play her on game and possibly align with Veronica, Jemmye, Britni & Sylvia.MTV is holding back on both of them because of what Ceejai' did on her season. They don't want that to happen on the challenge which is why they cast the 'weaker' black girls.

What did Ceejai "do" on her season?If anyone is going to be dumb enough to be vocal about wanting to work with Cory (who sucks) and Nelson (who's solid) there's no point in them showing up.  They won't be around long.

 

She whooped a *****'s *** that's what she did!

AND stood up for people of different backgrounds while being extremely patient with her aggressor. She didn't have to have sex with anyone to get camera time and she was the only reason GBOGH got any press.

Wait--so CeeJai and Nia likely can't be insured right now and people are mad they aren't on...lol

Maybe those that are "cast" (see the word) should do better.   Countless black women in the past made their mark.

Wait--so CeeJai and Nia likely can't be insured right now and people are mad they aren't on...lolMaybe those that are "cast" (see the word) should do better.   Countless black women in the past made their mark.

Oh boy, I made a grammatical mistake. Look, we’re never going to get anything out of this argument so I’m dropping it. Neither of us are going to agree on this subject so it’s not worth it to argue anymore. 

You can be vocal about working with whoever the HELL you want to work with, that's the problem with the show & most of its viewers now......this frail *** "you don't say John/CT/Trash/Cara Maria's names if you don't wanna go home" mentality is so utterly pathetic & is exactly why people want certain castmembers to get their shot and also why people think it's very suspicious certain castmembers don't get their shot. It's not rocket science.

I'm waiting for an explanation of why CeeJai/Tyara haven't appeared yet that isn't some tired horseshit explanation pull out from whoever's ***. As well as one for Katrina, Jamie Larson, Dylan, why Marlon hasn't returned, etc. even Dione when they've let that trashy ***** terrorize both castmembers AND production themselves.

You can be vocal about working with whoever the HELL you want to work with, that's the problem with the show & most of its viewers now......this frail *** "you don't say John/CT/Trash/Cara Maria's names if you don't wanna go home" mentality is so utterly pathetic & is exactly why people want certain castmembers to get their shot and also why people think it's very suspicious certain castmembers don't get their shot. It's not rocket science.I'm waiting for an explanation of why CeeJai/Tyara haven't appeared yet that isn't some tired horseshit explanation pull out from whoever's ***. As well as one for Katrina, Jamie Larson, Dylan, why Marlon hasn't returned, etc. even Dione when they've let that trashy ***** terrorize both castmembers AND production themselves.

Also why wasn't Dre and Scali the first AYTO men on this show. Why Robbie won't appear, why Jasmine did so many seasons, why Tyler A isn't cast but people like Christina, Briana, and Cheyenne are!!??!!

I bet if Tyara went on Twitter and said, "I'd work with Bananas" I bet she'd be on the cast!

You can be vocal about working with whoever the HELL you want to work with, that's the problem with the show & most of its viewers now......this frail *** "you don't say John/CT/Trash/Cara Maria's names if you don't wanna go home" mentality is so utterly pathetic & is exactly why people want certain castmembers to get their shot and also why people think it's very suspicious certain castmembers don't get their shot. It's not rocket science.I'm waiting for an explanation of why CeeJai/Tyara haven't appeared yet that isn't some tired horseshit explanation pull out from whoever's ***. As well as one for Katrina, Jamie Larson, Dylan, why Marlon hasn't returned, etc. even Dione when they've let that trashy ***** terrorize both castmembers AND production themselves.

You'll never get one because there isn't a real reason other than production is scared for Cara, Bananas, and Jenna. 

I bet if Tyara went on Twitter and said, "I'd work with Bananas" I bet she'd be on the cast!

I hope she never sells her soul to the devil like that.

CeeJai never went around telling Jenna (the one she beat up or Compono) she hoped she died & wanted to kill them; she never went around calling people racial slurs & certainly doesn't have a HISTORY of doing it.....

CT got into the worst "fight" (which was basically him chasing Adam around the house) in the show's history but they surely didn't waste time bringing him back into the fold; he even came back & showed out some more at least once on every Challenge he's been on since then. How are you going to say with a straight face that CeeJai's "uninsurable" but CT is? Get the **** out of here with that shit.

Keep in mind, they deliberately pushed CeeJai to that point. All season she was chilling, throughout all the dumb shit that redneck ***** said.......at the moment production should've removed the ***** from the house (when she put hands on CeeJai FIRST when she pushed her), they didn't do that because they wanted to push that envelope & see how far they could go with it. So when she's finally had enough & puts hands on the *****, she's "uninsurable" even though production instigated that whole altercation from jump? Once again, **** outta here with that bullshit.

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