The Challenge: Vendettas (Season 31) - Spoilers Discussion

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ReelWhirled wrote:

I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

I think Frank grew up.. Zach didn't. thats the difference. He NEVER once apologized to Jonna..

Tony and Leroy are horrible boyfriends but I've never seen Tony berate any woman aside from Camila (who honestly deserved it) like Zach has 

Bangerz wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

I've never seen any of JEK treat their partners as bad as Zach treated Jonna. 

ReelWhirled wrote:

I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

I think Frank grew up.. Zach didn't. thats the difference. He NEVER once apologized to Jonna..

Speak of the devil lol. How do you know Frank grew up? He's always been disgusting and if he can grow up why can't Zach?

Y'all will literally bring up Nelzzzon for everything lmao.

Bangerz wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

Compared to Tony and Leroy he's way worse, I can't speak for JEK because I didn't watch The Challenge during that time but any man that can publically say that women are inferior to men is a complete sexist and don't get me started on his homophobia......

It be totally different if Zach apologized to Jonna at the reunion but he never did. He's just terrible. 

Yeah we've seen guys on this show act as bad as Zach but at least they apologized, grew up, and changed. Zach never did. Thats who he is as a person.

ReelWhirled wrote:

I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

I think Frank grew up.. Zach didn't. thats the difference. He NEVER once apologized to Jonna..

 

Actually he’s still pretty nasty if she even comes up. 

ReelWhirled wrote:

Bangerz wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

I've never seen any of JEK treat their partners as bad as Zach treated Jonna. 

Lmao are you being serious? Go look at the things Kenny said to Sarah on the Ruins, or Evan and Kenny to Tonya on the Ruins (even taking the allegations out of it, they still bullied her and threw flour in her face etc) or Johnny to KellyAnne on the Island. If you want to be a fan of them that's fine but don't be a hypocrite and hate Zach for the exact same things they have done, or even worse imo

JEKFAN wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

I think Frank grew up.. Zach didn't. thats the difference. He NEVER once apologized to Jonna..

Speak of the devil lol. How do you know Frank grew up? He's always been disgusting and if he can grow up why can't Zach?

I saw a big difference from Frank from his RW season and Seasons. He def still has his flaws but he did start to grow up. It is unfortunate that right when he started to change he stopped doing challenges.

ReelWhirled wrote:

Bangerz wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

Compared to Tony and Leroy he's way worse, I can't speak for JEK because I didn't watch The Challenge during that time but any man that can publically say that women are inferior to men is a complete sexist and don't get me started on his homophobia......

Didn't Jordan and Johnny Reilly say the same thing? They even defended Zachs actions towards Jonna, do you hate them too?

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JEKFAN wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:

Bangerz wrote:
ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

I've never seen any of JEK treat their partners as bad as Zach treated Jonna. 

Lmao are you being serious? Go look at the things Kenny said to Sarah on the Ruins, or Evan and Kenny to Tonya on the Ruins (even taking the allegations out of it, they still bullied her and threw flour in her face etc) or Johnny to KellyAnne on the Island. If you want to be a fan of them that's fine but don't be a hypocrite and hate Zach for the exact same things they have done, or even worse imo

Johny was terrible on the Island.. I don't agree with the way he treated Evelyn or Paula but he still said in multiple interviews that he was an awful person on that season and I haven't seen him act to that extent since...

I'm honestly not even as big of a Bananas fan as I used to be anymore btw. I don't like the way he treated Nany but I still have never seen him treat a partner as bad as Zach treated Jonna. Point Blank.

what about that scene where the boys thought the cameras weren't on and they show zach saying women are an inferior species

Bischoff wrote:

Jfreeze wrote:It hurts to say this, but if Johnny lost to that terrible competitor in anything physical...I truly believe it's time for the GOAT to hang it up

If he really lost to Devin. Then I am going to start thinking this show is really rigged. 

They wouldn't do it that way lol.  Bananas is production's golden boy.  It's like people saying they rigged tuk tuk bang so Shane who've they called boring to his face would beat their new "star"Tony 

I was clearly joking. People take everything so damn serious lol. Plus he wasn' always their golden boy, it's like everyone forgets about Ct destroying Bananas on Cutthroat. If he was their favorite why would they let that happen to him. 

Bangerz wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:

Bangerz wrote:
ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

Compared to Tony and Leroy he's way worse, I can't speak for JEK because I didn't watch The Challenge during that time but any man that can publically say that women are inferior to men is a complete sexist and don't get me started on his homophobia......

Didn't Jordan and Johnny Reilly say the same thing? They even defended Zachs actions towards Jonna, do you hate them too?

Not a fan of either 

Kenny joked around a lot with Sarah Rice hence why they are still friends to this day. 

what about that scene where the boys thought the cameras weren't on and they show zach saying women are an inferior species

Multiple guys were in that conversation, which backs up my point that they are just as bad as him.

Let's call a spade a spade and say that most of the guys on The Challenge are terrible people

I never heard once Zach say the way he treated Jonna was wrong.. Never once. 

Malkamitu rookie of the year. Winning her first challenge! >>>>>>>

ReelWhirled wrote:

JEKFAN wrote:

ReelWhirled wrote:
Bangerz wrote:
ReelWhirled wrote:I'm not trying to defend Zach but it's ridiculous when people say how disgusting Zach is and then in the very next comment say how much they love Frank lol.

Defending Zach, a known emotionally and verbally abusive sexist ******* but trashing Nelson?

If you actually read my comment i said i wasn't defending Zach, i just don't really see him as any different to the majority of the other mtv guys. There's someone on here who is a JEK fan but says they hate Zach, like really? lol. And i already stated my opinion on Nelson so we don't need to go over that again, he really is no different to the rest of the ********** on this show.

I've never seen any of JEK treat their partners as bad as Zach treated Jonna. 

Lmao are you being serious? Go look at the things Kenny said to Sarah on the Ruins, or Evan and Kenny to Tonya on the Ruins (even taking the allegations out of it, they still bullied her and threw flour in her face etc) or Johnny to KellyAnne on the Island. If you want to be a fan of them that's fine but don't be a hypocrite and hate Zach for the exact same things they have done, or even worse imo

Johny was terrible on the Island.. I don't agree with the way he treated Evelyn or Paula but he still said in multiple interviews that he was an awful person on that season and I haven't seen him act to that extent since...I'm honestly not even as big of a Bananas fan as I used to be anymore btw. I don't like the way he treated Nany but I still have never seen him treat a partner as bad as Zach treated Jonna. Point Blank.

I honestly disagree, Jordan was pretty bad to Sarah on Exes 2. As was Adam to Brittany and Johnny to Jess on Rivals 3. I could name multiple others occasions, they were just as bad as Zach imo, what did he do that was soo much worse than them? He mocked her and made fun of her and berated her (which is horrible) but so did they, as did JEK in the past. And what about that hypocrite Laurel, the things she said in the past were just as bad if not worse than Zach.

Let's call a spade a spade and say that most of the guys on The Challenge are terrible people

fair

Zach is shitty, comparing him to jek doesnt make him less shitty.

Malkamitu rookie of the year. Winning her first challenge! >>>>>>>

I wonder if this silence from PR is a sign that she’s gathering final information..

Zach is shitty, comparing him to jek doesnt make him less shitty.

I know, but hating Zach and then fan girling over other mysoginist cast members makes no sense. I feel like i'm getting attacked for pointing out the obvious. Anyway lets move on before i get labelled as a Zach fan, which i am not.

I wonder if this silence from PR is a sign that she’s gathering final information..

or she has personal life too

Y'all will literally bring up Nelzzzon for everything lmao.

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