The Challenge: Untold Stories - MTV

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Johnny could get Miz on his podcast but BMP couldn't get him for this? Lame.

Miz is whack for thinking he's above the challenge, even doing specials for them. Surprised he ever accepted to host anything in the past 

the highkey most hilarious is how they blew all their budget for the full year on Kim Kardashian for this - does she even watch the show???? - and now they can't even afford to get Michaela on 38. DUMB.

the highkey most hilarious is how they blew all their budget for the full year on Kim Kardashian for this - does she even watch the show???? - and now they can't even afford to get Michaela on 38. DUMB.

Kim K was a huge real world fan I remember she talked about it during that reality tv documentary E! had earlier this year so I'm sure she watched old school challenge 

Can't wait to see challenge fan rhianna on this

"Challenge icons -- including Wes Bergmann, Johnny "Bananas" Devenanzio, Aneesa Ferreria, Mark Long, Chris "CT" Tamburello, Darrell Taylor, Laurel Stuckey and Kam Williams -- will return to share behind-the-scenes stories from their extraordinary time competing in "America's fifth major sport." Kim Kardashian, Vernon Davis, and Lindsey Jacobellis will also be featured"

That list is ridiculous:  if they checked their own history the women made the show was it was.  From Emily to Ruthie (Sexes 1) to Veornica to Coral to Katie to Rachel t toTina - THESE ARE ICONS.  How the heck does Kam count as an icon?  And why is John, Wes, and Chris always listed as iconic when they are part of the huge misogynistic verbally abusive downfall of the series.  

I'm annoyed. 

Such weak names. They could have gotten Mike, Coral, Katie, Landon, Rachel, Veronica, Tina and other actual legends to do this.

THIS

They got Rachel doing workout videos but couldnt get for this? There are so many missed opportunities.

They got Rachel doing workout videos but couldnt get for this? There are so many missed opportunities.

Rachel can be on it--there's over 30 cast members supposedly.  They didn't list everyone

I wonder who the most obscure person they got is.

not sure why you're picking at Kam being there when a true docuseries would focus on a little from every era. Kam is a very important girl from an era of this show. 38 seasons of the shit you can't possibly believe they'll only talk about the first 10 

not sure why you're picking at Kam being there when a true docuseries would focus on a little from every era. Kam is a very important girl from an era of this show. 38 seasons of the shit you can't possibly believe they'll only talk about the first 10 

I like Kam, but she doesn't stick out as iconic to me at all.  She had some good moments but I think others were more popular than her during her time so I found her odd on that list listed as an Iconic player. 

Can't wait to see challenge fan rhianna on this

and the late legend Whitney Houston would've been on here too cause she loved Coral down 

"Challenge icons -- including Wes Bergmann, Johnny "Bananas" Devenanzio, Aneesa Ferreria, Mark Long, Chris "CT" Tamburello, Darrell Taylor, Laurel Stuckey and Kam Williams -- will return to share behind-the-scenes stories from their extraordinary time competing in "America's fifth major sport." Kim Kardashian, Vernon Davis, and Lindsey Jacobellis will also be featured"

That list is ridiculous:  if they checked their own history the women made the show was it was.  From Emily to Ruthie (Sexes 1) to Veornica to Coral to Katie to Rachel t toTina - THESE ARE ICONS.  How the heck does Kam count as an icon?  And why is John, Wes, and Chris always listed as iconic when they are part of the huge misogynistic verbally abusive downfall of the series.  

I'm annoyed. 

I don't know how you can be mad about John Wes and CT as they're literally the most well-known Challengers that didn't move on to do other things (Miz, Jamie, etc) other than maybe Coral.  None of them created a "downfall" for the series.  Like them or not they're the main reasons it's still on.

 

not sure why you're picking at Kam being there when a true docuseries would focus on a little from every era. Kam is a very important girl from an era of this show. 38 seasons of the shit you can't possibly believe they'll only talk about the first 10 

I like Kam, but she doesn't stick out as iconic to me at all.  She had some good moments but I think others were more popular than her during her time so I found her odd on that list listed as an Iconic player. 

name a girl that debuted in Kams era of the Challenge more popular or involved in the narrative of the Challenge than her? 

not sure why you're picking at Kam being there when a true docuseries would focus on a little from every era. Kam is a very important girl from an era of this show. 38 seasons of the shit you can't possibly believe they'll only talk about the first 10 

I like Kam, but she doesn't stick out as iconic to me at all.  She had some good moments but I think others were more popular than her during her time so I found her odd on that list listed as an Iconic player. 

name a girl that debuted in Kams era of the Challenge more popular or involved in the narrative of the Challenge than her? 

Tori

Kam rookie season alone make her more iconic than Tori and who cares if Tori is more popular with the casuals it's only because she's forced down our throats and casuals take anything given to them and like it. Kam is more respected in the game than Tori is and that alone makes her worthy of being there. 

 

not sure why you're picking at Kam being there when a true docuseries would focus on a little from every era. Kam is a very important girl from an era of this show. 38 seasons of the shit you can't possibly believe they'll only talk about the first 10 

I like Kam, but she doesn't stick out as iconic to me at all.  She had some good moments but I think others were more popular than her during her time so I found her odd on that list listed as an Iconic player. 

name a girl that debuted in Kams era of the Challenge more popular or involved in the narrative of the Challenge than her? 

Tori

they're comparable truly, even then boom there are your female representation for that era of the challenge

Kam rookie season alone make her more iconic than Tori and who cares if Tori is more popular with the casuals it's only because she's forced down our throats and casuals take anything given to them and like it. Kam is more respected in the game than Tori is and that alone makes her worthy of being there. 

Tori's first season was as good if not better than Kam's. 

How is Kam more respected?  You're just making up stuff as you go here. 

 

 

not sure why you're picking at Kam being there when a true docuseries would focus on a little from every era. Kam is a very important girl from an era of this show. 38 seasons of the shit you can't possibly believe they'll only talk about the first 10 

I like Kam, but she doesn't stick out as iconic to me at all.  She had some good moments but I think others were more popular than her during her time so I found her odd on that list listed as an Iconic player. 

name a girl that debuted in Kams era of the Challenge more popular or involved in the narrative of the Challenge than her? 

Tori

they're comparable truly, even then boom there are your female representation for that era of the challenge

Fair 

Guys there is no need to worry, I'm sure tory will be on this too

 

Kam rookie season alone make her more iconic than Tori and who cares if Tori is more popular with the casuals it's only because she's forced down our throats and casuals take anything given to them and like it. Kam is more respected in the game than Tori is and that alone makes her worthy of being there. 

Tori's first season was as good if not better than Kam's. 

How is Kam more respected?  You're just making up stuff as you go here. 

Tori first season wasn't as impressive as Kam's and even you know that but we can agree to disagree since you reside in Delulu Land -- and she's respected more because she's had to prove herself more than the escort and everyone whose done seasons with her always give her her 10's hence Killa Kam -- Tori has had more embarrassing moments than impressive on this show but she has the casuals so good for her 

I think Kam is the biggest debut/name in this most recent era of the challenge, she's also not a weirdo like Tory or Devin 

Let's not sit here and say she's not iconic but pretend any old schooler is iconic. Kam has never really been irrelevant in any show, and has had some really good seasons like Vendettas, FR & DA. I'd say WOTW is where she was more of a background character but not necessarily a bad thing give that it was a big cast and she wasn't a main character there like Cara, Day, Wes, etc.

Tori aint no legend. She always flops and gives the second worst/most corny confessionals. She's never done anything significant besides cheat on some dudes. Production can try and force her as hard as they want on us but she'll never be anything besides a joke and an escort to the fans.

How many Challenge-related media needs to flop before MTV realizes that they're the problem?

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