The Challenge: State of the Culture

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I think the fact they cast Camila after that entire outburst + putting Trailor on tells you all you need to know about MTV/BMP. 

Why people continue to support this **** ill never know. free yourselves from this garbage.

This is a thread I can get into.

King-lmh wrote:

where's all the Hispanic, Asian, bi racial, pacific islander cast members on The Challenge? Are You The One cast diverse young adults, where's that energy on The Challenge?

Aren't Kailah, Nany, Amanda, Jozea, Sylvia, and Veronica (not sure about her), all Hispanic and/or biracial?... just some off the top of my head.Agreed on Asians though. Like not one MTV? 

Veronica is at least half Cuban.

I think Nicole Ramon actually born in Dominican Republic

Natalie is Venezuelan

Johanna is Peruvian

Theresa at least half Puerto Rican

True tea is Nia dragged Nany who was production’s new IT girl, Sarah who was production's go-to female Vet, and Jordan who production was prepping to be one of their golden boys all in one season. They was never planning to use her after that.

☕☕☕ along with their favorite puppy/executive producer/cum rag.

The Queen was NEVER scared to be herself & never felt the need to tone down her so-called blackness for Caucasian America. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Also, shoutout to Davie from the current Survivor season repping Fiji's indigenous population. We are GLOBAL and its time that it starts getting recognized.

Also, shoutout to Davie from the current Survivor season repping Fiji's indigenous population. We are GLOBAL and its time that it starts getting recognized.

Wait he is? That's awesome I never knew that

Sadly I only see Kam winning a challenge from the AA people currently on the challenge. Still lost on how Derrick has appeared on so many shows. 

Graphik wrote:

Also, shoutout to Davie from the current Survivor season repping Fiji's indigenous population. We are GLOBAL and its time that it starts getting recognized.

Wait he is? That's awesome I never knew that

Yup. He has it in his IG bio.

He's from my neck of the woods tho (the Carolinas) so I'm assuming his parents came here a long time ago.

I mean  other than Coral Kam and maybe Nelson do any black cast members have large fanbases?  I'd love to see Darrell Coral Nehemiah Kam etc but many just want John Cara CT Jenna etc. Nia is done. I want to see Michela but would see do this? Same with Cydney.  Both would be awesome in a Duel format

Cory kind of has a big fanbase, its pretty decent. But that’s the only name that comes in my head. Nelson definitley has a bigger one than him.

The fans in the challenge instagram comments show why this show is the way it is. All they wanna see is Johnny and CT. If this show only cast white people they would all be happy, and the producers are stupid enough to try and cater to this.

I can't name one person that's black that's universally loved by casuals. I'm not counting Leroy for obvious reasons he's an #AllLivesMatter type of person in my eyes 

I'd love to see more of all races not just on The Challenge, but American TV in general. I'm really hoping I'm wrong but I can't think of anyone else since Noor!! That's insane!! At least AYTO is expanding representation. I have to be wrong about Noor! Sorry if I'm ignorant but I really cant think of any others. Sorry edit I forgot Theressa, and I'm sure others that I'm probably wrong about.

Cory kind of has a big fanbase, its pretty decent. But that’s the only name that comes in my head. Nelson definitley has a bigger one than him.The fans in the challenge instagram comments show why this show is the way it is. All they wanna see is Johnny and CT. If this show only cast white people they would all be happy, and the producers are stupid enough to try and cater to this.

I don't think so... Nelson has among the lowest # of twitter and instagram followers, not just for the Young Bucks but for any castmember. I don't think Nelly really racks up too many fans. Cory has almost 10x the amount of Insta followers.

Side note, I'm living for the 3 queens in the thread picture. Bad ******* that are scared of NO ONE.

Oh I didn’t know that. It just popped in my head as who gets the least hate out of the two of them lol and that is def Nelson.

Side note, I'm living for the 3 queens in the thread picture. Bad ******* that are scared of NO ONE.

It was intentional too. I was going to use a picture of Nia with Leroy or Jasmine to compare the good with the bad but I was like nah. Lol

Oh I didn’t know that. It just popped in my head as who gets the least hate out of the two of them lol and that is def Nelson.

Casuals generally hate Cory and Nelson but like/are indifferent to Hunter 

the.trillest wrote:

Oh I didn’t know that. It just popped in my head as who gets the least hate out of the two of them lol and that is def Nelson.

Casuals generally hate Cory and Nelson but like/are indifferent to Hunter 

Sounds about white to me.

I mean  other than Coral Kam and maybe Nelson do any black cast members have large fanbases?  I'd love to see Darrell Coral Nehemiah Kam etc but many just want John Cara CT Jenna etc. Nia is done. I want to see Michela but would see do this? Same with Cydney.  Both would be awesome in a Duel format

its hard to get a fan base for any African American cast considering they cast what 4-6 at max a season? They are most definitely under represented on the show and I wouldn’t call myself a progressive at all. African American audience of this show has a legitimate gripe 

Cory and Nelson have generated a decent amount of fans, Cory moreso but their Young Buck thing with Hunter definitely landed them a niche fanbase. 

Nelson has actually been getting a decent amount of positive press from the casuals this season. He really hasn’t done anything they can nit pick on so they are forced to actually say something nice 

deeper wrote:

the.trillest wrote:Oh I didn’t know that. It just popped in my head as who gets the least hate out of the two of them lol and that is def Nelson.

Casuals generally hate Cory and Nelson but like/are indifferent to Hunter 

Sounds about white to me.

Cory and Nelson have generated a decent amount of fans, Cory moreso but their Young Buck thing with Hunter definitely landed them a niche fanbase. Nelson has actually been getting a decent amount of positive press from the casuals this season. He really hasn’t done anything they can nit pick on so they are forced to actually say something nice 

Cory going against CT and Bananas made casuals turn on him. He generated a lot of fans from Bloodlines, Rivals 3, and Invasion, but a lot of casuals turned on him this trilogy for underperforming and going against the casual faves. Nelson I see a lot of hate from casuals or just indifference or "he's a good competitor but I don't like him" type of stuff.

TuesDaze wrote:

Cory and Nelson have generated a decent amount of fans, Cory moreso but their Young Buck thing with Hunter definitely landed them a niche fanbase. Nelson has actually been getting a decent amount of positive press from the casuals this season. He really hasn't done anything they can nit pick on so they are forced to actually say something nice 

Cory going against CT and Bananas made casuals turn on him. He generated a lot of fans from Bloodlines, Rivals 3, and Invasion, but a lot of casuals turned on him this trilogy for underperforming and going against the casual faves. Nelson I see a lot of hate from casuals or just indifference or "he's a good competitor but I don't like him" type of stuff.

which is ironic because they keep ******** about wanting competition and "ThE OlD ChALLenGe" back, but yet find reasons to not want actually new competitors to be on like Kam and Nelson. It's see through 

IMO I don't think people just gang up on minorities on the challenge because they are minorities ONLY. Even without being sent in we never truly seen an amazing performance in dailies, finals or eliminations like we have seen with Darrell and especially Alton who IMO is the strongest AA male competitor to ever been cast.  Nehemiah lucked out n winning G3 (Thanks to Frank and Big Easy being Dqed). 

Also I think people turned on Cory not because of his hitlist but because he flopped HARD after he made the hit list public. Plus casuals love CT more than the challenge itself so him gunning for CT probably didn't do him any favours.

I do believe that if we had Ceejai, Nia and Kam on the same season at least one of them would made it to the finals.

deeper wrote:

the.trillest wrote:Oh I didn’t know that. It just popped in my head as who gets the least hate out of the two of them lol and that is def Nelson.

Casuals generally hate Cory and Nelson but like/are indifferent to Hunter 

Sounds about white to me.

lmaooooooo I hate you

Oooh when I get the chance to make a post. Glue your wigs on

Survivor is a lot worse for minorities tbh. Just look at how michaela was treated on game changers. Grown men saying they feel threatened and unsafe around her

Nah they turned on Cory because he went against their so called favorites. Because Leroy is a wholeeee flop but they love him because he doesn’t go against the grain. He falls in line which is what casuals, Johnny, and production wants.

Darrell has actually never been all that great in Daily missions, two things I attribute to the Kangs legacy are 1) just look at him. You’re not calling him out trying to go against him in an elimination. 2) due to his rigorous boxing training dude has Cardio for days. I remember the Inferno 2 Final he didn’t even break a sweat on that run and it was killing every one else  

Nah they turned on Cory because he went against their so called favorites. Because Leroy is a wholeeee flop but they love him because he doesn't go against the grain. He falls in line which is what casuals, Johnny, and production wants.

yeah Leroy is good at eliminations but flops at everything else. He's actually done the most seasons without winning out of any Male I think. They like Leroy because Leroy is friends with their favorites they don't like him because of his personality or performance.

He got a dose of reality when he got loud with Cara and Tony about that elimination in Vendettas. That Casual audience wasn't allowing his *** to have that entitled attitude they allow CT to have. That's a negro wake up call if I've ever seen one Smile

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