The Challenge: State of the Culture

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Just in case y'all forgot why Queen CeeJai will likely never be on MTV again.....they can't have this type of powerful imagery.

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EDIT: of course links aren't working smmfh just copy & paste I guess lol

Da’Vonne and Merron from BB Canada seem to be an item, their personalities match so I’m happy for them 

Da’Vonne and Merron from BB Canada seem to be an item, their personalities match so I’m happy for them 

Receipts??!

You took a big jump to conclusions there 

You took a big jump to conclusions there 

y’all dont hate on love :), but seriously I probably reached but what ever friendship they have I enjoy seeing it on social media 

Welp Wendell says he’d probably never do the Challenge, the competition appeals to him and there’s people he’d like to get to know more but there’s unnecessary drama and he’s not a dramatic person 

Welp Wendell says he’d probably never do the Challenge, the competition appeals to him and there’s people he’d like to get to know more but there’s unnecessary drama and he’s not a dramatic person 

Good lol. He is better on Survivor anyways. Glad he would in the middle of the messiness of The Challenge.

TuesDaze wrote:

Welp Wendell says he’d probably never do the Challenge, the competition appeals to him and there’s people he’d like to get to know more but there’s unnecessary drama and he’s not a dramatic person 

Good lol. He is better on Survivor anyways. Glad he would in the middle of the messiness of The Challenge.

he’s so  centered and zen I wouldn’t mess that up to deal with some of these people on the challenge either 

Welp Wendell says he’d probably never do the Challenge, the competition appeals to him and there’s people he’d like to get to know more but there’s unnecessary drama and he’s not a dramatic person 

I feel like BMP/MTV wouldn't bother with him anyways. Survivor Seems more his speed honestly. 

TuesDaze wrote:

Welp Wendell says he’d probably never do the Challenge, the competition appeals to him and there’s people he’d like to get to know more but there’s unnecessary drama and he’s not a dramatic person 

I feel like BMP/MTV wouldn't bother with him anyways. Survivor Seems more his speed honestly. 

yeah he also said it wouldn’t matter because they didn’t call him, he also let me know that CBS pays for you to go back to the country you filmed at at least once in your lifetime. Pretty neat

Debut Album wrote:

TuesDaze wrote:Welp Wendell says he’d probably never do the Challenge, the competition appeals to him and there’s people he’d like to get to know more but there’s unnecessary drama and he’s not a dramatic person 

I feel like BMP/MTV wouldn't bother with him anyways. Survivor Seems more his speed honestly. 

yeah he also said it wouldn’t matter because they didn’t call him, he also let me know that CBS pays for you to go back to the country you filmed at at least once in your lifetime. Pretty neat

That is pretty damn cool. Very Nice of them to do.

every time i see this pic i get mad at how robbed we were of their debuts ...

every time i see this pic i get mad at how robbed we were of their debuts ...

you know I remember Tya vividly but I just never got around to watching Ceejais season. I’ve seen the viral clips and I follow her tho

What is it they're talking about here? What was edited out? 

I decided to bring my thoughts on Leroy and the C-word to this thread so I wouldn't derail the speculation thread. I think the term definitely applies to him and several other blacks mainly being males from the show. Based on what we've seen and know The Challenge and shows associated with it has had moments of racisms and racial undertones for years while the only time we really heard Leroy's take on it was when it happened to him and he was pretty much forced to talk about it. I don't even feel like discussing this situation in full because several of us have on Vevmo for years so I'll just say you're part of the problem and deserve the label if you tap dance on that show for years knowing what takes place both on and off camera and even with casting.

I'll also add that as many black people on here know we do have those in our community who will turn a blind eye to racism when they feel it doesn't apply to them or the other race tells them they're not like the others. Most of the black men on the show prefer interracial dating so I'm sure they let that angry black women narrative get tossed around several times on several women before Day came on the show.

Speak those facts Witty!

Although I personally think more of the women need to be more like The Queen/Mama Day & not give a **** about being the "ABW". These ************* on the show & the trash *** fans are going to paint you as what they want regardless.

Somebody spoke on this earlier but look at how Leroy's stupid *** nearly fell out of favor with casuals at the end of Vendettas.....if he aint learned by that & Dirty 30 he is truly a lost cause.

Speak those facts Witty!Although I personally think more of the women need to be more like The Queen/Mama Day & not give a **** about being the "ABW". These ************* on the show & the trash *** fans are going to paint you as what they want regardless.Somebody spoke on this earlier but look at how Leroy's stupid *** nearly fell out of favor with casuals at the end of Vendettas.....if he aint learned by that & Dirty 30 he is truly a lost cause.

I brought up the Leroy Vendettas thing and yeah it was a big negro wake up call for him, he finally got to see that they only like him because he likes their faves.

i guess my main concern with the Leroy **** thing, is that people we know good and well aren't black were in there having a laugh and agreeing and that doesn't sit well with me. You know like being all in our stuff and what not. I guess if I was to give a final take on it I'd prefer us have a genuine discussion about Leroy's complacency and what it says about him to have a "best friend" like John in the first place amongst ourselves in here. I think this is the perfect thread for that with just US if you catch my drift 

Leroy I feel deserves the title because he’s let moments like his happen before and rarely spoke about and has let his fellow black people on the show get race baited and shamed. His staged friendship with Johnny definitely doesn’t help even with the casuals not even really messing with him like that anymore because he went against their fave should tell him something but he fails to realize it. 

My thing with Leroy is that he's just a damn dissapointment. If you look at him on his RW season you wouldn't think he'd turn out the way he did. I mean Okay. He's Backpack's friend and he uses him as a shield. That's fine and honestly smart, BUT what he needs to understand is that now people are not scared of Backpack and will throw his *** in at some point. He should be making allies/bonds with other people while Backpack is there so if/when he gets eliminated he won't find himself in the position he found himself towards the end of Vendettas. The people Backpack is alligned with is alligned with BACKPACK...Not him.

And what's ****** up is...I'm sure he knows all of this. It's just that he doesn't care. And that's a damn shame because I feel that he could've won a season or two already if he were a bit smarter about the game. 

I never got to dive into how the casuals were saying how he handled the Camila situation was the "right way to combat racism". That rubbed me ALL THE WAY the wrong way. If you react like Leroy or react like Ceejai ain't no way these outside the circle comfortable casuals gonna tell my black *** the right way to deal with a targeted racial attack.

a lot to unpack about how the fanbase want these black cast members to be docile 24/7. 

Classy clapback as always <3

She would've been the show's own Omarosa.

I never got to dive into how the casuals were saying how he handled the Camila situation was the "right way to combat racism". That rubbed me ALL THE WAY the wrong way. If you react like Leroy or react like Ceejai ain't no way these outside the circle comfortable casuals gonna tell my black *** the right way to deal with a targeted racial attack.a lot to unpack about how the fanbase want these black cast members to be docile 24/7. 

Facts!

Yikes if "Nia is on her best behavior" . Nia doesnt go around fighting everyone that breathes, I find comment like that so annoying.

Yikes if "Nia is on her best behavior" . Nia doesnt go around fighting everyone that breathes, I find comment like that so annoying.

see now what we’re not gonna do. She wouldn’t go to their obnoxious podcast anyway 

Thats just a nasty comment. Nia is flourishing in life and not worried about any of these people. See this is the problem with folks they look at how you may have acted years ago and then put that label on you forever. People grow and change but a lot of people find that hard to believe because they themselves don’t grow nor change through their own life.

My thing with Leroy is that he's just a damn dissapointment. If you look at him on his RW season you wouldn't think he'd turn out the way he did. I mean Okay. He's Backpack's friend and he uses him as a shield. That's fine and honestly smart, BUT what he needs to understand is that now people are not scared of Backpack and will throw his *** in at some point. He should be making allies/bonds with other people while Backpack is there so if/when he gets eliminated he won't find himself in the position he found himself towards the end of Vendettas. The people Backpack is alligned with is alligned with BACKPACK...Not him.And what's ****** up is...I'm sure he knows all of this. It's just that he doesn't care. And that's a damn shame because I feel that he could've won a season or two already if he were a bit smarter about the game. 

I couldn't have said it better myself. It's not the fact that him and Bananas are tight, most of the time it doesn't make sense for him to turn on Bananas, but he puts ALL his eggs on his basket, and then when someone like Veronica,who he probably has never said a word to, goes against him, he goes and acts baffled than anyone would do that to him. Like **** outta here. 

& i agree DA. Leroy is a huge disappointment, I never thought he would be this way. I loved him on his RW season and I was so geeked for his challenge debut I just knew he was gonna win one of these. Now I know he honestly never will. People clown on Anessa so much but Leroy is no better.

Yeah you can tell the new guys wanted to get to know Leroy, and he just joined in with John making their lives hell instead of actually using that opening to form bonds. 

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