Veronica's 3 season wins are all team wins (and big teams at that). She's also 2-3 in eliminations. I don't see how that merits Mt Rushmore.
It's factoring in her impact on the show
Plus, there's a knock against a couple of Rachel and Evelyn's wins too: both had at least one big team win, Rachel won the Duel against a one-and-done rookie and Aneesa, and Evelyn won the Island which wasn't even a real challenge. Anyone can nitpick the earlier wins lbr, but you add in Veronica's legacy on the show in general and that's an argument to add her.
This may be a competition show but it's not only about competition.
Just bc Veronica isn't a brolic troglodyte that destroys everything in her path doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to be on Mount Rushmore! #JustMyOpinion
Veronica's 3 season wins are all team wins (and big teams at that). She's also 2-3 in eliminations. I don't see how that merits Mt Rushmore.
It's factoring in her impact on the show
Plus, there's a knock against a couple of Rachel and Evelyn's wins too: both had at least one big team win, Rachel won the Duel against a one-and-done rookie and Aneesa, and Evelyn won the Island which wasn't even a real challenge. Anyone can nitpick the earlier wins lbr, but you add in Veronica's legacy on the show in general and that's an argument to add her.
This may be a competition show but it's not only about competition.
If my math is correct, Cara's 11 finals (including CvP and All Stars 4) - 3 wins, 6 seconds, 1 middle (second for women), 1 last. (And then I think she's 16-7 in eliminations.) Tori has 4 last places in 7 finals.
If my math is correct, Cara's 11 finals (including CvP and All Stars 4) - 3 wins, 6 seconds, 1 middle (second for women), 1 last. (And then I think she's 16-7 in eliminations.) Tori has 4 last places in 7 finals.
If Tori won everyone would say it's because production rigged it for her. If Tori loses then she's a fat flop. I'm not even a Tori fan, but man she cannot get a break from the haters.
Hasn't Tori come in last in the final 4 times now when you include the WC season?
Coming in last in a final doesn't make you a flop. Making a final alone is something players who've been doing this for years can't even do. And that doesn't go against my point that even if she won her haters would still say it's because production rigged it for her. She doesn't receive credit even when she does well.
Tori won 38, came in second on World Champs, and she actually did really well in USA 2 final. She was only eliminated because they weighted the stupid axe throwing part way too much.
if we're taking mount rushmore literally as the 'founders' who were there first then anyone fresh meat 1 or after shouldn't even be included.
I know many won't agree but I think it for womens it should be Coral, Beth, Veronica, Susie. Those four were pretty much the main girls in the founding seasons. All good competitors, provided the drama, had distinct personalites and filled specific roles in the game dynamics. they are the ones who paved the way into the rest of the early 2000's until now.
If Tori won everyone would say it's because production rigged it for her. If Tori loses then she's a fat flop. I'm not even a Tori fan, but man she cannot get a break from the haters.
Hasn't Tori come in last in the final 4 times now when you include the WC season?
Coming in last in a final doesn't make you a flop. Making a final alone is something players who've been doing this for years can't even do. And that doesn't go against my point that even if she won her haters would still say it's because production rigged it for her. She doesn't receive credit even when she does well.
Tori won 38, came in second on World Champs, and she actually did really well in USA 2 final. She was only eliminated because they weighted the stupid axe throwing part way too much.
I don't think it makes Tori a flop overall and personally have never said it does, but at the same time she's come in last in 57% of her finals and that does mean something. To some degree she's weak in finals.
if we're taking mount rushmore literally as the 'founders' who were there first then anyone fresh meat 1 or after shouldn't even be included.
I know many won't agree but I think it for womens it should be Coral, Beth, Veronica, Susie. Those four were pretty much the main girls in the founding seasons. All good competitors, provided the drama, had distinct personalites and filled specific roles in the game dynamics. they are the ones who paved the way into the rest of the early 2000's until now.
The actual Mount Rushmore isn't fully founding fathers considering Lincoln and Roosevelt are on there. If you use that as a strict model, you'd have two 'founding' competitors, someone who came about 1/3 of the way in (so maybe Fresh Meat), and then someone who came about halfway in (so around Cutthroat).
if we're taking mount rushmore literally as the 'founders' who were there first then anyone fresh meat 1 or after shouldn't even be included.
I know many won't agree but I think it for womens it should be Coral, Beth, Veronica, Susie. Those four were pretty much the main girls in the founding seasons. All good competitors, provided the drama, had distinct personalites and filled specific roles in the game dynamics. they are the ones who paved the way into the rest of the early 2000's until now.
The actual Mount Rushmore isn't fully founding fathers considering Lincoln and Roosevelt are on there. If you use that as a model, you'd have two 'founding' competitors, someone who came about 1/3 of the way in, and then someone who came about halfway in.
for real???? then in that case my following post is what i would go through with. cara evelyn coral veronica.
i'll be honest. i'm american born and raised and i don't even know who is on mount rush more nor do i care to look it up rofl
Yup, and Cara still has fewer last places in finals. Cara has made more finals, yet also has a higher % of making the top 2 and a much lower % in terms of finishing last (and her only last place was when she was paired with Marie, so...). Statistically Cara is clearly stronger in finals, for whatever that's worth.
I don't think it makes Tori a flop overall and personally have never said it does, but at the same time she's come in last in 57% of her finals and that does mean something. To some degree she's weak in finals.
It's funny that Cara didn't even make the final and we're talking about Tori getting last. Cara has been to 9 finals and won 2. She was last on Cut Throat, 4th on Final Reckoning, 5th on WOTW. The point is you can pick apart anyone's final performance to make the argument you want.
I would still put Cara on Mt. Rushmore over Tori, at the moment, but I think that can easily change as we see them on more seasons together.
Evelyn last won when she was 24 Rachel won when she was 41 nvm she's the goat for the women no questions asked! Especially when she's been away for so long
It's factoring in her impact on the show
Plus, there's a knock against a couple of Rachel and Evelyn's wins too: both had at least one big team win, Rachel won the Duel against a one-and-done rookie and Aneesa, and Evelyn won the Island which wasn't even a real challenge. Anyone can nitpick the earlier wins lbr, but you add in Veronica's legacy on the show in general and that's an argument to add her.
This may be a competition show but it's not only about competition.
Just bc Veronica isn't a brolic troglodyte that destroys everything in her path doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to be on Mount Rushmore! #JustMyOpinion
If my math is correct, Cara's 11 finals (including CvP and All Stars 4) - 3 wins, 6 seconds, 1 middle (second for women), 1 last. (And then I think she's 16-7 in eliminations.) Tori has 4 last places in 7 finals.
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Coming in last in a final doesn't make you a flop. Making a final alone is something players who've been doing this for years can't even do. And that doesn't go against my point that even if she won her haters would still say it's because production rigged it for her. She doesn't receive credit even when she does well.
Tori won 38, came in second on World Champs, and she actually did really well in USA 2 final. She was only eliminated because they weighted the stupid axe throwing part way too much.
if we're taking mount rushmore literally as the 'founders' who were there first then anyone fresh meat 1 or after shouldn't even be included.
I know many won't agree but I think it for womens it should be Coral, Beth, Veronica, Susie. Those four were pretty much the main girls in the founding seasons. All good competitors, provided the drama, had distinct personalites and filled specific roles in the game dynamics. they are the ones who paved the way into the rest of the early 2000's until now.
edit: even though i think susie is a rotted ****
if we are talking about impact spanning the show's entire history. I would go with Coral, Veronica, Cara Maria, Evelyn
Cara also done twice as many seasons as Tori.
I don't think it makes Tori a flop overall and personally have never said it does, but at the same time she's come in last in 57% of her finals and that does mean something. To some degree she's weak in finals.
Rachel did it for the gays and the bis. Now it's time for Marlon to do it for the lesbians and the trans
The actual Mount Rushmore isn't fully founding fathers considering Lincoln and Roosevelt are on there. If you use that as a strict model, you'd have two 'founding' competitors, someone who came about 1/3 of the way in (so maybe Fresh Meat), and then someone who came about halfway in (so around Cutthroat).
for real???? then in that case my following post is what i would go through with. cara evelyn coral veronica.
i'll be honest. i'm american born and raised and i don't even know who is on mount rush more nor do i care to look it up rofl
Yup, and Cara still has fewer last places in finals. Cara has made more finals, yet also has a higher % of making the top 2 and a much lower % in terms of finishing last (and her only last place was when she was paired with Marie, so...). Statistically Cara is clearly stronger in finals, for whatever that's worth.
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I respect the honesty! Do you, babe.
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"Production thinks Kyland is going to win"
"Bananas is the goat"
Y'all remember
Jman do you think that Marlon would've became just as good as Jordan if he continued doing seasons?
Lol no. Not with his swimming skills. He woulda been good but he's got that body type that's harder in finals
Jordan is an unreal long distance runner & swimmer. He's naturally good at everything
Jordan winning ran off that Bananas Stan lmaoooooo. He don't wanna face it. Jordan is better and smoked bananas
Jman's fap time to Jordan's jumpscare melted looking ugly weird hand has arrived for the day
Queen V is apart of the Fitz Fandom
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It's funny that Cara didn't even make the final and we're talking about Tori getting last. Cara has been to 9 finals and won 2. She was last on Cut Throat, 4th on Final Reckoning, 5th on WOTW. The point is you can pick apart anyone's final performance to make the argument you want.
I would still put Cara on Mt. Rushmore over Tori, at the moment, but I think that can easily change as we see them on more seasons together.
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I'll give Rachel her props, I didn't think she could do puzzles
Remember when Jordan dragged Chauncey whose got 50 pounds on him lmao
So Rachel 3 wins are better than Evelyn's 3 wins right making her the best female challenger ever omg
Evelyn last won when she was 24 Rachel won when she was 41 nvm she's the goat for the women no questions asked! Especially when she's been away for so long
She could've been partnered with Jordan or another male during any puzzle portion.
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