The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 1

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Corys made his way into IT boy status, he's one of the go to Vets everybody goes to. he's easy to get a long with. he's got rookies making sure they follow him first as soon as they get contacted for the show. 

he's turned into a social butterfly he wasn't when he first got here. it's made him very boring but he's locked in for end games now when before it was a toss up if he'd be out in the first few eliminations 

that's fine and all but he's going to stay getting 2nd/3rd until he can grow a pair again and target people who can beat him

he's beaten pretty much all of the guys except CT. if he got CT out on DA he would have won lmao 

He's never beating CT so if he just floats again then CT is going to float too and he's going to get 2nd/3rd/4th whatever once again is my point lol

i think they are fine with CT getting past every Big Brother/Survivor team. they need to get him in against Fessy/Kelz in about 3/4 eliminations from now 

As long as Jeremiah Cory kelz or Nelson win I will be happy 

Hopefully Kelz or Jeremiah come through for you then.  I have no faith in the other 2 to win though I wouldn't be shocked if they made the final.

Where we disagree is Zach not caring about the perception of it.  I don't believe for a second he keeps it and that's regardless of who his partner was.  Zach has never taken ownership of any of the horrible statements he's made.  He's always made excuses and made it seem overblown or an edit.  I think Zach is a **** but he'd split it without hesitation IMO.  

And, again, they were rigging that season for a woman to have a chance to steal money against a guy IMO so I'm not convinced the decision would have been Zach's

Ok cool, I don't agree

Zach does not care how he is perceived. He thinks he's above public opinion. He would not split with Amanda and vice versa. We can agree to disagree but that is one of your most ridiculous hills you've chosen to die on yet lmao

I think kvm's right. They both probably split. Zach cant go back to Cracker Barrel/Church/Hobby Lobby/NRA meetings etc having stole the money. And by his demeanor at reunion shows I think he does care about public opinion-- maybe just not the public you or I are accustomed to.

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Where we disagree is Zach not caring about the perception of it.  I don't believe for a second he keeps it and that's regardless of who his partner was.  Zach has never taken ownership of any of the horrible statements he's made.  He's always made excuses and made it seem overblown or an edit.  I think Zach is a **** but he'd split it without hesitation IMO.  

And, again, they were rigging that season for a woman to have a chance to steal money against a guy IMO so I'm not convinced the decision would have been Zach's

Ok cool, I don't agree

That's fine--we don't have to agree--it's an opinion.  Saying it's ridiculous though was inaccurate.  There's arguments for both sides.

I am speechless that anyone could've watched even 1 instance of Zach and Amanda interacting and not think that they hate eachother. I....what do you even say to that? Zach, who decided he would rather get eliminated than let Amanda get her way? That Zach?

If Cory, Nelson, and Kyle can't/don't get rid of CT this season as soon as possible, they all should retire honestly cause they're staying letting these 40 year old men beat them every season

This is so true, these 3 have the potential to win, but they will have to get CT out somehow, i feel like Kelz could possibly do it in something physical

Even though Josh/Amanda are cool I don't see Amanda's side (Cory, Ashley, Nelson) working with BB for long. Eventually BB will have to throw one of them in or vice versa. Josh will protect Kaycee, Nany possibly Tori before Amanda. 

edit - Amanda said she woulda split the cash at the reunion iirc

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Even though Josh/Amanda are cool I don't see Amanda's side (Cory, Ashley, Nelson) working with BB for long. Eventually BB will have to throw one of them in or vice versa. Josh will protect Kaycee, Nany possibly Tori before Amanda. 

is josh close with tori?

I am speechless that anyone could've watched even 1 instance of Zach and Amanda interacting and not think that they hate eachother. I....what do you even say to that? Zach, who decided he would rather get eliminated than let Amanda get her way? That Zach?

Amanda's reaction to Zach being hurt during the elimination is that obvious one.  Amanda decided she'd rather get eliminated than let Zach get his way too.  They're both stubborn people that were in opposite alliances.  Literally wouldn't be shocked at all had they hooked up.

Even though Josh/Amanda are cool I don't see Amanda's side (Cory, Ashley, Nelson) working with BB for long. Eventually BB will have to throw one of them in or vice versa. Josh will protect Kaycee, Nany possibly Tori before Amanda. 

is josh close with tori?

Tori is probably Fessy's #1 girl outside of Kaycee so Josh would probably protect her for a while--she's a sure vote on that alliance in theory

They went to Mexico together and she is always saying how much she loves him on the challenge podcast

Even though Josh/Amanda are cool I don't see Amanda's side (Cory, Ashley, Nelson) working with BB for long. Eventually BB will have to throw one of them in or vice versa. Josh will protect Kaycee, Nany possibly Tori before Amanda. 

is josh close with tori?

They went to Mexico together and she is always saying how much she loves him on the challenge podcast

 

Even though Josh/Amanda are cool I don't see Amanda's side (Cory, Ashley, Nelson) working with BB for long. Eventually BB will have to throw one of them in or vice versa. Josh will protect Kaycee, Nany possibly Tori before Amanda. 

is josh close with tori?

They went to Mexico together and she is always saying how much she loves him on the challenge podcast

oh really? I try to ignore tori and josh so I had no idea this was a thing

 

Even though Josh/Amanda are cool I don't see Amanda's side (Cory, Ashley, Nelson) working with BB for long. Eventually BB will have to throw one of them in or vice versa. Josh will protect Kaycee, Nany possibly Tori before Amanda. 

is josh close with tori?

Tori is probably Fessy's #1 girl outside of Kaycee so Josh would probably protect her for a while--she's a sure vote on that alliance in theory

I literally forgot about the fessy/tori connection. So the bb alliance  is already kind of in with them. 

the whole cast can't be in with eachother, they are partnered up with international unknown people so they don't have space to all be together. the superficial relationships will be irrelevant tbh.

everybody likes eachother for the most part but somebody has to go home 

the whole cast can't be in with eachother, they are partnered up with international unknown people so they don't have space to all be together. the superficial relationships will be irrelevant tbh.

everybody likes eachother for the most part but somebody has to go home 

 

aka RIP Nam hahaha

 

the whole cast can't be in with eachother, they are partnered up with international unknown people so they don't have space to all be together. the superficial relationships will be irrelevant tbh.

everybody likes eachother for the most part but somebody has to go home 

 

aka RIP Nam hahaha

and any relationship that is recent or just somebody enjoying someone's company. 

the whole cast can't be in with eachother, they are partnered up with international unknown people so they don't have space to all be together. the superficial relationships will be irrelevant tbh.

everybody likes eachother for the most part but somebody has to go home 

thats why I initially said Cory had just Nelson. They like Cory for sure but do they have his back over anyone else in the game?But I'm also just speculating without the international-American pairing because we don't know the official pairs yet. Heck tacha and Esther might be paired up with a bb guy and an ayto guy (that's if tacha and Esther decide to work together) so that might be further reason to intertwine the two groups. Again, I'm just speculating based on the cast, not the international-American pairing they might do

Ct and tori are winning this lol

no i literally meant as in just her blindsiding ashley and thinking for herself for once, you guys def overthought it but yeah

 

 

amanda could've cemented herself as a bad ***** had she thrown in ashley & hunter instead of arguing

how would giving into Zach make her a bad *****? Quite the opposite. Her standing up to Zach makes her a bad *****.

nm

At the end of the day, Amanda and Zach were both dumb******* for throwing their game for their best friends. They hands down would've dominated the final.

At the end of the day, Amanda and Zach were both dumb******* for throwing their game for their best friends. 

Ashley and Amanda aren't even best friends like that pleaseeeee.....Amanda would be the dumbest fool to ever do the challenge if she threw away her game for Ashley a third time 

Ct and tori are winning this lol

Exactly, now this is tea...let's manifest this everyone  Smile

Ashley and Amanda aren't even best friends like that pleaseeeee.....Amanda would be the dumbest fool to ever do the challenge if she threw away her game for Ashley a third time 

well

Nelson will be loyal to his boys over any girl and any relationship he has with them lol 

PR, do you happen to know if we are lucky enough to have last place go directly in?

Nelson will be loyal to his boys over any girl and any relationship he has with them lol 

yup nelson is "bros before ****" personified lmao

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