lol he definitely loses the elimination with tracy that kelz lost with her.
No, he doesn't--I don't even believe you think that. Tracy's far from good but she was fine in that elimination. CT's a far better communicator.
ive never heard ct get praised for his communication skills, ive actually only ever heard the opposite. he couldnt even finish a mission with veronica but u expect me to believe he could win that elimination with tracy lol.
lol he definitely loses the elimination with tracy that kelz lost with her.
No, he doesn't--I don't even believe you think that. Tracy's far from good but she was fine in that elimination. CT's a far better communicator.
ive never heard ct get praised for his communication skills, ive actually only ever heard the opposite. he couldnt even finish a mission with veronica but u expect me to believe he could win that elimination with tracy lol.
See Amber during the final. You also never saw him in an elimination with Veronica.
For the record, the only vet that has won a mission so far that may have benefited from getting rid of CT was Fessy. Tori, Kaycee and Aneesa have no reason to target him.
The winners of the challenge just have to send CT in an elimination that isnt head to head contact for the best chance. Many of these eliminations this season felt like they werent like head to head especially with the partnered eliminations.
For the record, the only vet that has won a mission so far that may have benefited from getting rid of CT was Fessy. Tori, Kaycee and Aneesa have no reason to target him.
Can totally agree with that, i would even say that Fessy is the only vet that has a small chance against CT in a final if he starts eating... If not he will be just another Cory but better at dailies and eliminations
They had a chance with the partnered eliminations but like I said they waited too long and then the eliminations became solo which made it even harder to eliminate CT. Thats why I say you try to get him out early which gives you more chances bc there was a very high chance the pairs woulda been gone midway.
They had a chance with the partnered eliminations but like I said they waited too long and then the eliminations became solo which made it even harder to eliminate CT. Thats why I say you try to get him out early which gives you more chances bc there was a very high chance the pairs woulda been gone midway.
Say it louder the winners flopped by letting him pass
kvm when was the last time targetting CT "at the right time" worked? That strategy is too unreliable , there are too many variables that you can't predict, and even then that "right time" might never come. It's fine if: 1) You only want to get as far as you can without winning and only target him if and when the stars aligne. Or 2) You think you have a shot at beating him in the final, so if the Oportunity presents itself you throw him in at the right time, if not then you wouldn't worry too much about it because you can beat him anyway.
Otherwise, if you WANT to win and KNOW that you CAN'T beat him because you already lost to him 2 times before (which is the case with all the male vets) then your best strategy is craming enough meat into the meat-grinder until it get stuck, and what better time to start than from the very beginning, when there are still plenty of rookies to play meat part? You'd have to turn the whole house against CT for this plan to work, but honestly how hard is it to turn them against the literally only male champ left? a 4 times winner at that. Maybe the female vets won't be on board but the male vets could easily manipulate their rookies partners to vote in CT every time.
kvm when was the last time targetting CT "at the right time" worked? That strategy is too unreliable , there are too many variables that you can't predict, and even then that "right time" might never come. It's fine if: 1) You only want to get as far as you can without winning and only target him if and when the stars aligne. Or 2) You think you have a shot at beating him in the final, so if the Oportunity presents itself you throw him in at the right time, if not then you wouldn't worry too much about it because you can beat him anyway.
Otherwise, if you WANT to win and KNOW that you CAN'T beat him because you already lost to him 2 times before (which is the case with all the male vets) then your best strategy is craming enough meat into the meat-grinder until it get stuck, and what better time to start than from the very beginning, when you still have a lot of rookies to be the meat. You'd have to turn the whole house against CT for this plan to work, but honnestly how hard is it to turn them on the literally only male champ left? a 4 times winner at that. Maybe the female vets won't be on board but the male vets could easily manipulate their rookies partners to vote in CT every time.
Rivals was the last time it worked and that was only because Adam threw it. I guess we could say Free Agents but most of the time they decide not to target him at the end which is a different argument. Last season Kam/Cory/Leroy completely misplayed the game and Nany gave CT a free ride to the final.
You're still not creating a game in which Cory, Devin, Josh or Kyle win--if they target CT early and the vet females aren't on board you're giving the rookies the numbers and ******* off the women you need.
I know you're all tired of CT winning but these people need to train like CT trains. They need to make moves at the right time. "Just throw him in every time" isn't good gameplay. Especially with this format--CT wins, he gets to pick his partner and he'll likely win missions (and a lot of them)...in order to win you have to make it to the end--people seem to continually ignore that aspect of the game with wanting to see people just blindly throwing in CT and hoping for the best.
Throwing in John (or even Wes) like that would have made a lot more sense than CT. It's a faulty plan.
kvm when was the last time targetting CT "at the right time" worked? That strategy is too unreliable , there are too many variables that you can't predict, and even then that "right time" might never come. It's fine if: 1) You only want to get as far as you can without winning and only target him if and when the stars aligne. Or 2) You think you have a shot at beating him in the final, so if the Oportunity presents itself you throw him in at the right time, if not then you wouldn't worry too much about it because you can beat him anyway.
Otherwise, if you WANT to win and KNOW that you CAN'T beat him because you already lost to him 2 times before (which is the case with all the male vets) then your best strategy is craming enough meat into the meat-grinder until it get stuck, and what better time to start than from the very beginning, when you still have a lot of rookies to be the meat. You'd have to turn the whole house against CT for this plan to work, but honnestly how hard is it to turn them on the literally only male champ left? a 4 times winner at that. Maybe the female vets won't be on board but the male vets could easily manipulate their rookies partners to vote in CT every time.
Rivals was the last time it worked and that was only because Adam threw it. I guess we could say Free Agents but most of the time they decide not to target him at the end which is a different argument. Last season Kam/Cory/Leroy completely misplayed the game and Nany gave CT a free ride to the final.
You're still not creating a game in which Cory, Devin, Josh or Kyle win--if they target CT early and the vet females aren't on board you're giving the rookies the numbers and ******* off the women you need.
I know you're all tired of CT winning but these people need to train like CT trains. They need to make moves at the right time. "Just throw him in every time" isn't good gameplay. Especially with this format--CT wins, he gets to pick his partner and he'll likely win missions (and a lot of them)...in order to win you have to make it to the end--people seem to continually ignore that aspect of the game with wanting to see people just blindly throwing in CT and hoping for the best.
Throwing in John (or even Wes) like that would have made a lot more sense than CT. It's a faulty plan.
They threw him in in Rivals at what they thought was the right time, but he came back, it took another time for him to go home, and it wasn't even planned because he got last with the ******** Helicopter daily. Bananas and Nany tried to send him home in during Free Agents and they failed, again it took another time to send him home, and again, it wasn't planned because he (and bananas) only got unlucky and pulled the double cross (or whatever they were calling it)
The bottom line is that you should always prepare to throw CT in multiple times because even when you think it's the right time he'd still likely manage to comeback and you'd need to send him a second or even a third time. And with how convoluted this season's dailies have been so far, he won't be able to ALWAYS win even if he chose KC or Tori, and you'd have plenty of chances to throw him in again, and even when he wins, who's he gonna targed? All the male vets are against him and share the blood on their hands.
Personally I don't mind CT winning at all, but targeting him early would devide the house and create some chaos, which would be far better than what we're getting now.
Personally I don't mind CT winning at all, but targeting him early would devide the house and create some chaos, which would be far better than what we're getting now.
But you're talking about "the viewer" not "the cast" with wanting this. I understand the point you're making and I think the rookies just allowing their partners to target other rookies was pure stupidity but it doesn't make sense to go after CT this early. I won't mind if it happens but it's too early and there's too many other people still there.
You think sending him in with a weak girl guarantees he goes home--I don't--how many puzzles have we seen? They need to improve. Of course he didn't see an elimination round--he convinced them to work together then likely wins to stay safe. What is Cory or Devin going to take him out? Come on. Nelson didn't see an elimination either. Nor did Nany or Kaycee.
I feel like your talking as some one whos seens the eliminations though and not as a cast member during filiming, we know he would probably win the eliminations weve seen regardless of partner. The cast dont know what the eliminations are though so they would have to take the risk.
None of the cast should even be working with CT in the first place because they should all be wanting the best guy out, so him then comming for you shouldnt be a problem.
You think sending him in with a weak girl guarantees he goes home--I don't--how many puzzles have we seen? They need to improve. Of course he didn't see an elimination round--he convinced them to work together then likely wins to stay safe. What is Cory or Devin going to take him out? Come on. Nelson didn't see an elimination either. Nor did Nany or Kaycee.
I feel like your talking as some one whos seens the eliminations though and not as a cast member during filiming, we know he would probably win the eliminations weve seen regardless of partner. The cast dont know what the eliminations are though so they would have to take the risk.
None of the cast should even be working with CT in the first place because they should all be wanting the best guy out, so him then comming for you shouldnt be a problem.
Why would any of the women want him out? There's no way you make the strongest person an enemy at the beginning. Watch The Duel 2 for example--the strongest usually work together. Again, the issue is peopel like Cory don't train the way they need to and they keep casting useless guys like Josh/Kyle/Devin
Also, if I hadn't seen a single elimination I would expect production to give CT a puzzle if it's a paired elimination.
given what we saw of that final, Amber/Darrell would have beaten CT and whoever his partner was. But CT probably steals Amber with that weird partner twist they added in the middle.
unless bananas comes back, there's no one else who can take on CT in a final.
given what we saw of that final, Amber/Darrell would have beaten CT and whoever his partner was. But CT probably steals Amber with that weird partner twist they added in the middle.
unless bananas comes back, there's no one else who can take on CT in a final.
given what we saw of that final, Amber/Darrell would have beaten CT and whoever his partner was. But CT probably steals Amber with that weird partner twist they added in the middle.
unless bananas comes back, there's no one else who can take on CT in a final.
Jordan can beat both of them in finals
I don't think it's 100% jordan with how good of shape CT is in now
given what we saw of that final, Amber/Darrell would have beaten CT and whoever his partner was. But CT probably steals Amber with that weird partner twist they added in the middle.
unless bananas comes back, there's no one else who can take on CT in a final.
Jordan can beat both of them in finals
I don't think it's 100% jordan with how good of shape CT is in now
Jordan just completed a triathlon where he came in 4th out of his age group and the top 70 overall out of over 1500 people. CT's puzzle game might give him an edge but Jordan still probably has better odds of winning.
Jordan can run and has gas for days so it would take equalizers that would really hold him back for CT to win, I think. It all depends on the final. Jordan did say on Rivals 2 final there was a puzzle that CT solved right away and he thought "how the f-?" because it was so hard that production had to start giving the rest of them hints.
Are KC and Emanuel finally winning the next daily?
No, he doesn't--I don't even believe you think that. Tracy's far from good but she was fine in that elimination. CT's a far better communicator.
ive never heard ct get praised for his communication skills, ive actually only ever heard the opposite. he couldnt even finish a mission with veronica but u expect me to believe he could win that elimination with tracy lol.
See Amber during the final. You also never saw him in an elimination with Veronica.
For the record, the only vet that has won a mission so far that may have benefited from getting rid of CT was Fessy. Tori, Kaycee and Aneesa have no reason to target him.
welp imo tracy wasnt winning that elimination against emy, her male partner didnt really matter. ct goes home next to her
Cool--then we just disagree
The winners of the challenge just have to send CT in an elimination that isnt head to head contact for the best chance. Many of these eliminations this season felt like they werent like head to head especially with the partnered eliminations.
Not the Tracy slander
Can totally agree with that, i would even say that Fessy is the only vet that has a small chance against CT in a final if he starts eating... If not he will be just another Cory but better at dailies and eliminations
They had a chance with the partnered eliminations but like I said they waited too long and then the eliminations became solo which made it even harder to eliminate CT. Thats why I say you try to get him out early which gives you more chances bc there was a very high chance the pairs woulda been gone midway.
Say it louder the winners flopped by letting him pass
kvm when was the last time targetting CT "at the right time" worked? That strategy is too unreliable , there are too many variables that you can't predict, and even then that "right time" might never come. It's fine if: 1) You only want to get as far as you can without winning and only target him if and when the stars aligne. Or 2) You think you have a shot at beating him in the final, so if the Oportunity presents itself you throw him in at the right time, if not then you wouldn't worry too much about it because you can beat him anyway.
Otherwise, if you WANT to win and KNOW that you CAN'T beat him because you already lost to him 2 times before (which is the case with all the male vets) then your best strategy is craming enough meat into the meat-grinder until it get stuck, and what better time to start than from the very beginning, when there are still plenty of rookies to play meat part? You'd have to turn the whole house against CT for this plan to work, but honestly how hard is it to turn them against the literally only male champ left? a 4 times winner at that. Maybe the female vets won't be on board but the male vets could easily manipulate their rookies partners to vote in CT every time.
Put CT with Tracy or Baby Bop in a paired elimination and that's the best chance he has at leaving this season
Once that format changed the males should've just packed their bags because at that point the winner was obvious on the male side.
Rivals was the last time it worked and that was only because Adam threw it. I guess we could say Free Agents but most of the time they decide not to target him at the end which is a different argument. Last season Kam/Cory/Leroy completely misplayed the game and Nany gave CT a free ride to the final.
You're still not creating a game in which Cory, Devin, Josh or Kyle win--if they target CT early and the vet females aren't on board you're giving the rookies the numbers and ******* off the women you need.
I know you're all tired of CT winning but these people need to train like CT trains. They need to make moves at the right time. "Just throw him in every time" isn't good gameplay. Especially with this format--CT wins, he gets to pick his partner and he'll likely win missions (and a lot of them)...in order to win you have to make it to the end--people seem to continually ignore that aspect of the game with wanting to see people just blindly throwing in CT and hoping for the best.
Throwing in John (or even Wes) like that would have made a lot more sense than CT. It's a faulty plan.
The "right time' was one of the climbing elims imo
adam said he didnt throw it
Lol
They threw him in in Rivals at what they thought was the right time, but he came back, it took another time for him to go home, and it wasn't even planned because he got last with the ******** Helicopter daily. Bananas and Nany tried to send him home in during Free Agents and they failed, again it took another time to send him home, and again, it wasn't planned because he (and bananas) only got unlucky and pulled the double cross (or whatever they were calling it)
The bottom line is that you should always prepare to throw CT in multiple times because even when you think it's the right time he'd still likely manage to comeback and you'd need to send him a second or even a third time. And with how convoluted this season's dailies have been so far, he won't be able to ALWAYS win even if he chose KC or Tori, and you'd have plenty of chances to throw him in again, and even when he wins, who's he gonna targed? All the male vets are against him and share the blood on their hands.
Personally I don't mind CT winning at all, but targeting him early would devide the house and create some chaos, which would be far better than what we're getting now.
But you're talking about "the viewer" not "the cast" with wanting this. I understand the point you're making and I think the rookies just allowing their partners to target other rookies was pure stupidity but it doesn't make sense to go after CT this early. I won't mind if it happens but it's too early and there's too many other people still there.
I feel like your talking as some one whos seens the eliminations though and not as a cast member during filiming, we know he would probably win the eliminations weve seen regardless of partner. The cast dont know what the eliminations are though so they would have to take the risk.
None of the cast should even be working with CT in the first place because they should all be wanting the best guy out, so him then comming for you shouldnt be a problem.
Why would any of the women want him out? There's no way you make the strongest person an enemy at the beginning. Watch The Duel 2 for example--the strongest usually work together. Again, the issue is peopel like Cory don't train the way they need to and they keep casting useless guys like Josh/Kyle/Devin
Also, if I hadn't seen a single elimination I would expect production to give CT a puzzle if it's a paired elimination.
given what we saw of that final, Amber/Darrell would have beaten CT and whoever his partner was. But CT probably steals Amber with that weird partner twist they added in the middle.
unless bananas comes back, there's no one else who can take on CT in a final.
Jordan can beat both of them in finals
I don't think it's 100% jordan with how good of shape CT is in now
Jordan just completed a triathlon where he came in 4th out of his age group and the top 70 overall out of over 1500 people. CT's puzzle game might give him an edge but Jordan still probably has better odds of winning.
Jordan can run and has gas for days so it would take equalizers that would really hold him back for CT to win, I think. It all depends on the final. Jordan did say on Rivals 2 final there was a puzzle that CT solved right away and he thought "how the f-?" because it was so hard that production had to start giving the rest of them hints.
Who wins tonight???
the challenge or elimination?
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