The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Its kinda like last season where everyone assumed Kam was jealous/insecure abou Theresa but long behold Theresa targeted her first lmao. Its like are we watching the same show??

Its kinda like last season where everyone assumed Kam was jealous/insecure abou Theresa but long behold Theresa targeted her first lmao. Its like are we watching the same show??

Ehhh

 

Its kinda like last season where everyone assumed Kam was jealous/insecure abou Theresa but long behold Theresa targeted her first lmao. Its like are we watching the same show??

Ehhh

is that not what happened ?

Context definitely matters. For someone to say "Berna has problems with every woman that Nelson is close to" youre trying to paint a "jealous" picture when 2/3 of those women had the problem with her first ... And then when it comes to Amber we arent even seeing how their whole situation played out lol.

Yall making me feel like yall never went outside and seen a lightskin woman the way yall throw that jealousy word around. Amber is beautiful but i ont think its that...

I've said before that I think they (or at least some people) are definitely jealous of amber but not for her looks but because she's a champ and they aren't. her being light skin or biracial in this case doesn't matter because the other women involved are white. 

pointing out that berna has beef with the women involved with nelson (or vice versa) is literally me using the same logic as when people come on here and say that amber must be the problem since multiple people have an issue with her. see where that logic falls apart?

 

Context definitely matters. For someone to say "Berna has problems with every woman that Nelson is close to" youre trying to paint a "jealous" picture when 2/3 of those women had the problem with her first ... And then when it comes to Amber we arent even seeing how their whole situation played out lol.

Yall making me feel like yall never went outside and seen a lightskin woman the way yall throw that jealousy word around. Amber is beautiful but i ont think its that...

I've said before that I think they (or at least some people) are definitely jealous of amber but not for her looks but because she's a champ and they aren't. her being light skin or biracial in this case doesn't matter because the other women involved are white. 

pointing out that berna has beef with the women involved with nelson (or vice versa) is literally me using the same logic as when people come on here and say that amber must be the problem since multiple people have an issue with her. see where that logic falls apart?

Because it's not the same concept lmaoo. You're comparing apples and bananas, reaching at anything. 

 

 

Context definitely matters. For someone to say "Berna has problems with every woman that Nelson is close to" youre trying to paint a "jealous" picture when 2/3 of those women had the problem with her first ... And then when it comes to Amber we arent even seeing how their whole situation played out lol.

Yall making me feel like yall never went outside and seen a lightskin woman the way yall throw that jealousy word around. Amber is beautiful but i ont think its that...

I've said before that I think they (or at least some people) are definitely jealous of amber but not for her looks but because she's a champ and they aren't. her being light skin or biracial in this case doesn't matter because the other women involved are white. 

pointing out that berna has beef with the women involved with nelson (or vice versa) is literally me using the same logic as when people come on here and say that amber must be the problem since multiple people have an issue with her. see where that logic falls apart?

Because it's not the same concept lmaoo. You're comparing apples and bananas, reaching at anything. 

ok

 

 

Its kinda like last season where everyone assumed Kam was jealous/insecure abou Theresa but long behold Theresa targeted her first lmao. Its like are we watching the same show??

Ehhh

is that not what happened ?

feel free to rewatch the season. Kam had not said one word  to/about theresa until theresa made her move.

so you think berna is jealous because Amber won her rookie season ....while berna is still on her rookie season? Did berna have this jealousy in the house or did this jealousy sprout after she was eliminated? lol im trying to fathom how berna could be jealous in the house when she had the chance to win her rookie season too.

I think jealous is the wrong word to describe this entire situation. I'm more so leaning towards the word "intimdated "

A new female champ walked in with a bad reptuation from the vets so they influenced the rookies to want her out. Therefore the rookies never really gave her a chance because they've already heard so much bad stuff about her. I wish the cast would just say that instead coming up with these weird theories. 

 

 

 

yup! I said this in ambers thread. It seemed amber had some dislike for berna due to her fling with nelson. It was def a mix of berna targeting her and berna hooking up with nelson

I took it as Amber saying she felt like that's where BERNAs issue was coming from. Because why would she be annoyed by Nelson's relationship with Berna but not his relationship with Ashley? 

Because Amber picks and chooses her battles just like her stans try to say people do with her ...

lol it's berna who had beef with the girls that nelson was... entangled with. Amber was fine with Ashley, but berna wasn't on good terms with both ashley and amber (and even Amanda who nelson is really close to). So your argument applies more to berna. 

it was literally shown amanda ans

 

ashley started the issue with berna wtf are u on abt. How do u deny facts that were literally shown on tv

 

 

 

 

yup! I said this in ambers thread. It seemed amber had some dislike for berna due to her fling with nelson. It was def a mix of berna targeting her and berna hooking up with nelson

I took it as Amber saying she felt like that's where BERNAs issue was coming from. Because why would she be annoyed by Nelson's relationship with Berna but not his relationship with Ashley? 

Because Amber picks and chooses her battles just like her stans try to say people do with her ...

lol it's berna who had beef with the girls that nelson was... entangled with. Amber was fine with Ashley, but berna wasn't on good terms with both ashley and amber (and even Amanda who nelson is really close to). So your argument applies more to berna. 

You thought you ate all that just to be wrong. Ashley was the one mad that Berna & Nelson were mingling (and also from the looks of it Nelson picked Berna over her), Amber was up under Ashley's *** whenever the whole Bertha shit was happening, giggling, nodding her head, agreeing, etc. Amanda & Berna had issues over covid protocols, nothing to do with Nelson so your argument applies nowhere. 

so you think berna is jealous because Amber won her rookie season ....while berna is still on her rookie season? Did berna have this jealousy in the house or did this jealousy sprout after she was eliminated? lol im trying to fathom how berna could be jealous in the house when she had the chance to win her rookie season too.

i think berna has a problem with amber because of the things she was told by other people (same with the other rookie girls who have a problem with her, at least from what berna said in that interview). I think the vets who might have a problem with amber are jealous or intimidated because they've done several seasons and haven't won but she did it in one season. i don't think I used the word jealous for berna, if I did, it was poor word choice. 

Amber a ole weak ***** with a smart mouth. Always somewhere lying, crying, or telling tired *** stories about how she won last season even though she shouldn't have. (Let's not forget she didn't finish her puzzle, nor was she penalized for it). However when someone throws a drink at her (Esther), or just simply don't fw the way she moves, her stans think it's a problem which is bizarre. Nobody's entitled to like her

ur so real

My take is the vets from last season were the ones jealous of Amber for winning while they flopped on the final and the rookies were irritated by her and thought she was fake.

When I pointed out that it was said that she was only saying she wanted to go in elimination for camera time, her fans praised it. I don't knock her hustle. But at the same time, why do her fans then get mad when the rookies call her fake if she's doing things like that this season?

Amber is being discussed in like 5 different threads lol.

Moving on from that, sounds like the crazy fan base might've scared Michele off, either that or she is trying to deflect from the Amanda drama.

Berna is the moment.

Im really confused about how Priscilla loses to Ashley. Priscilla seems very strong and Ashley sucks at eliminations.

Im really confused about how Priscilla loses to Ashley. Priscilla seems very strong and Ashley sucks at eliminations.

Riggage

I think Kyle and Amand win the next challenge or CT and Emy.

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

They need to cast better competitors not get rid of people just because they're good.   And why is it obvious "it's not Tori anymore" considering she just made a final

 

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

They need to cast better competitors not get rid of people just because they're good.   And why is it obvious "it's not Tori anymore" considering she just made a final

In the end is reality tv and Kaycee is boring as hell, specially in a relationship with Nany, i agree the most competition the better but they have to be entertaining, and Kaycee isn't

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

They need to cast better competitors not get rid of people just because they're good.   And why is it obvious "it's not Tori anymore" considering she just made a final

In the end is reality tv and Kaycee is boring as hell, specially in a relationship with Nany, i agree the most competition the better but they have to be entertaining, and Kaycee isn't

Kaycee's far from my favorite but there's a ton of people that need to be replaced before we even get to her

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

didnt u say that ct should keep coming back

 

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

didnt u say that ct should keep coming back

These guys 10-15 years younger than him keep losing to him...so until they smarten up keep bringing him back so that they keep losing it's what they deserve for playing scared.

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

jenny can beat her but she's just as boring

 

 

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

didnt u say that ct should keep coming back

These guys 10-15 years younger than him keep losing to him...so until they smarten up keep bringing him back so that they keep losing it's what they deserve for playing scared.

wats the difference in kaycee 

 

 

 

They should really give Kaycee the female winner treatment and make her take off next season. She's been to 3 finals in a row and I can see her winning next season too. Who's her competition really? It's obvious it's not tori anymore. I know production has a hard on for this snooze as she's a double minority but she's a million times boring than even amber 

didnt u say that ct should keep coming back

These guys 10-15 years younger than him keep losing to him...so until they smarten up keep bringing him back so that they keep losing it's what they deserve for playing scared.

wats the difference in kaycee 

ct has a smidge of personality naturally while kaycee will forever be furniture.

Guys the problem isn't the cast, it's production. They only want family friendly drama, they insist on this spy themed BS, they keep overproducing the challenges with unnecessary explosions and shit, the challenges/elims keep getting shittier and shittier, the lines they feed to the cast on confessionals keep getting dumber and lamer, they send people home for ******* now, they keep editing out the interesting stuff, they got discount hollywood blockbuster producers to do a reality TV show. They need to change whoever in charge.

Guys the problem isn't the cast, it's production. They only want family friendly drama, they insist on this spy themed BS, they keep overproducing the challenges with unnecessary explosions and shit, the challenges/elims keep getting shittier and shittier, the lines they feed to the cast on confessionals keep getting dumber and lamer, they send people home for ******* now, they keep editing out the interesting stuff, they got discount hollywood blockbuster producers to do a reality TV show. They need to change whoever in charge.

Now why tf is the word f art-ing is being censored?

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