The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Again--once more for those that apparently starting watching 2 seasons ago--THE OBJECTIVE IS TO AVOID ELIMINATIONS.  

There's a reason this is his first final since Invasion--he finally figure it out

So why were you faulting Kam for not going into elimination when you just said the goal is to avoid them?

It was a different game--she goes in she picks her partner.   She sees Hall Brawl against Amber B.  At that point you go in.  It's like saying CT wouldn't have gone in at that point against Jay for Hall Brawl.  Kam played scared.  

This is how The Challenge operates

CT is better than every one that has ever played the challenge.

 Everyone should target CT if they want to win a challenge 

who cares about going to a final Corys been to like 3 and it doesn't matter. by this point he makes more in appearance fee than a 2nd place prize. Nelson has to be close to that spot too he's been on a bunch of seasons. 

last i checked the goal of the challenge is to win. this is not something debatable. i'm not debating it. 3/5 seasons won by the same man? attempt to get him out or don't show up 

Because you can't WIN unless you make the final.  You'll never understand this concept apparently.

"Attempt to get him out"--when you have no idea what that attempt would have looked like right now--genius.  

This is how The Challenge operates

CT is better than every one that has ever played the challenge.

 Everyone should target CT if they want to win a challenge 

Right--you don't understand the game--when  did you start watching the show?

i don't have shit to go on but Cory and his comments and what he's saying on Camera. we didn't see anybody else so why would i act as if your stupid hypotheticals are fact? 

werido 

 

This is how The Challenge operates

CT is better than every one that has ever played the challenge.

 Everyone should target CT if they want to win a challenge 

Right--you don't understand the game--when  did you start watching the show?

since season 2, so you aren't going to flip it from your idiotic contrarian pov you always pull. we are definitely near the same age so i'm pretty embarrassed having watched you go around this board like a 8 year old hunting down things to have unpopular opinions on for sport. 

let's find a hobby, i recommend fishing or yachting 

You keep changing your argument KVM. The other day you literally said the sole goal of the show is to win money and now you're saying the goal is to make the final? Seems like you just change your argument whenever it is helpful to you.

You keep changing your argument KVM. The other day you literally said the sole goal of the show is to win money and now you're saying the goal is to make the final? Seems like you just change your argument whenever it is helpful to you.

Can you win money if you don't make the final?

This is how The Challenge operates

CT is better than every one that has ever played the challenge.

 Everyone should target CT if they want to win a challenge 

Right--you don't understand the game--when  did you start watching the show?

since season 2, so you aren't going to flip it from your idiotic contrarian pov you always pull. we are definitely near the same age so i'm pretty embarrassed having watched you go around this board like a 8 year old hunting down things to have unpopular opinions on for sport. 

let's find a hobby, i recommend fishing or yachting 

To clarify--you've been watching since "Real World vs Road Rules" and your belief is that NO ONE should work with CT and EVERYONE should target him?

 

You keep changing your argument KVM. The other day you literally said the sole goal of the show is to win money and now you're saying the goal is to make the final? Seems like you just change your argument whenever it is helpful to you.

Can you win money if you don't make the final?

You can say this about anything- all of this shit is just a chain of events but that doesn't mean you should play safe. Here's a question for you: What if Nelson threw himself into the final elimination against CT. Is that smart or dumb in your eyes? Knowing he couldn't win unless CT isn't in the final, I see it as a risk worth taking (just like in Survivor 38 when Chris threw himself into the fire making challenge). I would rather get 5th than 2nd (unless 2nd gets money obviously)

 

This is how The Challenge operates

CT is better than every one that has ever played the challenge.

 Everyone should target CT if they want to win a challenge 

Right--you don't understand the game--when  did you start watching the show?

since season 2, so you aren't going to flip it from your idiotic contrarian pov you always pull. we are definitely near the same age so i'm pretty embarrassed having watched you go around this board like a 8 year old hunting down things to have unpopular opinions on for sport. 

let's find a hobby, i recommend fishing or yachting 

To clarify--you've been watching since "Real World vs Road Rules" and your belief is that NO ONE should work with CT and EVERYONE should target him?

i think rookie males should look to him for advice and leadership because he clearly knows how to get it done. i think veteran males that are on the brink of a win and need to take a leap like Cory/Nelson in particular should have used huge rookie males like Kelz to get him out early. 

they were well aligned they had many friends on the cast and had a cushion to make an early move. with the ability to put him in with a very weak partner to up your chances of him going home it was their best chance.

they've done this show plenty of times they knew the format was eventually changing. so not abusing the one they had in the beginning is a failed game 

i think rookie males should look to him for advice and leadership because he clearly knows how to get it done. i think veteran males that are on the brink of a win and need to take a leap like Cory/Nelson in particular should have used huge rookie males like Kelz to get him out early. 

they were well aligned they had many friends on the cast and had a cushion to make an early move. with the ability to put him in with a very weak partner to up your chances of him going home it was their best chance.

they've done this show plenty of times they knew the format was eventually changing. so not abusing the one they had in the beginning is a failed game 

Exactly. Especially with this format they had complete control of everything. In episode 1 could have thrown in Emy and Corey against CT and Tracy and it would've been an easy win

 

You keep changing your argument KVM. The other day you literally said the sole goal of the show is to win money and now you're saying the goal is to make the final? Seems like you just change your argument whenever it is helpful to you.

Can you win money if you don't make the final?

You can say this about anything- all of this shit is just a chain of events but that doesn't mean you should play safe. Here's a question for you: What if Nelson threw himself into the final elimination against CT. Is that smart or dumb in your eyes? Knowing he couldn't win unless CT isn't in the final, I see it as a risk worth taking (just like in Survivor 38 when Chris threw himself into the fire making challenge). I would rather get 5th than 2nd (unless 2nd gets money obviously)

This is where you lose all credibility "Knowing he couldn't win unless CT isn't n the final"---Nelson doesn't think that and AGAIN half this board thinks Nelson already beat him in a final.   No, CT would likely destroy Nelson in any elimination.  CT has the edge physically and mentally.  Nelson's best chance is a final not an elimination against CT.   Plus, I'm still convinceed we were told CT won the final mission without being told so not even an option.

Did you compare this to Survivor where people vote on the winner and Chris spent the entire season on Redemption Island knowing exactly what he would need in order to win?

Why are we even bothering with him? We know what he is doing lol.

i think rookie males should look to him for advice and leadership because he clearly knows how to get it done. i think veteran males that are on the brink of a win and need to take a leap like Cory/Nelson in particular should have used huge rookie males like Kelz to get him out early. 

they were well aligned they had many friends on the cast and had a cushion to make an early move. with the ability to put him in with a very weak partner to up your chances of him going home it was their best chance.

they've done this show plenty of times they knew the format was eventually changing. so not abusing the one they had in the beginning is a failed game 

Why Kelz?  Of all the rookie men why Kelz for Cory and Nelson?

So, you think Cory and Nelson should have rallied the rookies and try to take out CT early?   You've watched since S2--how did that work out for Wes when he did it?

You've seen what happened in the past when Cory and Nelson tried to target strong vets at the beginning, right?  Or did you skip those seasons?

Why are we even bothering with him? We know what he is doing lol.

Using logic and understanding the game

 

 

You keep changing your argument KVM. The other day you literally said the sole goal of the show is to win money and now you're saying the goal is to make the final? Seems like you just change your argument whenever it is helpful to you.

Can you win money if you don't make the final?

You can say this about anything- all of this shit is just a chain of events but that doesn't mean you should play safe. Here's a question for you: What if Nelson threw himself into the final elimination against CT. Is that smart or dumb in your eyes? Knowing he couldn't win unless CT isn't in the final, I see it as a risk worth taking (just like in Survivor 38 when Chris threw himself into the fire making challenge). I would rather get 5th than 2nd (unless 2nd gets money obviously)

This is where you lose all credibility "Knowing he couldn't win unless CT isn't n the final"---Nelson doesn't think that and AGAIN half this board thinks Nelson already beat him in a final.   No, CT would likely destroy Nelson in any elimination.  CT has the edge physically and mentally.  Nelson's best chance is a final not an elimination against CT.   Plus, I'm still convinceed we were told CT won the final mission without being told so not even an option.

Did you compare this to Survivor where people vote on the winner and Chris spent the entire season on Redemption Island knowing exactly what he would need in order to win?

CT's elimination record is 6-5, he has lost almost as much as he won. Saying he would likely destroy Nelson in any elimination is just dumb. And I was just giving an example of someone throwing themself into a challenge, obviously it is different

The sad part is when liars believe their own lies.

 

Watch them turn Kaycee's win into a heroic, inspirational story about her bouncing back from her injury (as if they didn't play "Karma Chameleon" when she got hurt).

We already know this is gonna happen lol. I'm excited for Amanda to get the robbed queen edit for going out right before the final

Can't wait until Tori destroys the girl that can't make a final.  Would have been even better had it been Emy

This ***** constantly complains about fake and unnecessary drama on the challenge and then goes and starts fake and unnecessary drama on Vevmo. You are 40, this is embarrassing. Your constant need to have an unpopular opinion and argue with people half your age on a regular basis is concerning.

 

Why are we even bothering with him? We know what he is doing lol.

Using logic and understanding the game

You're a clown, I hope you know that no one on this site has any respect for what you say and we take you as what you are, a troll.

yeah i'm not doing that anymore, unlike him i know i'm too old for this lol 

This ***** constantly complains about fake and unnecessary drama on the challenge and then goes and starts fake and unnecessary drama on Vevmo. You are 40, this is embarrassing. Your constant need to have an unpopular opinion and argue with people half your age on a regular basis is concerning.

Watch them turn Kaycee's win into a heroic, inspirational story about her bouncing back from her injury (as if they didn't play "Karma Chameleon" when she got hurt).

We already know this is gonna happen lol. I'm excited for Amanda to get the robbed queen edit for going out right before the final

Can't wait until Tori destroys the girl that can't make a final.  Would have been even better had it been Emy

This ***** constantly complains about fake and unnecessary drama on the challenge and then goes and starts fake and unnecessary drama on Vevmo. You are 40, this is embarrassing. Your constant need to have an unpopular opinion and argue with people half your age on a regular basis is concerning.

I don't like Amanda and I've said that since she debuted.  I don't understand why I'm supposed to like her because others do.  It doesn't make any sense.  I will enjoy Amanda losing because she's a hypocrite.  She criticizes other women for the men in their life than did what she did.  Amanda's all bark but no bite.  The fact anyone is mad that I'm glad she lost is weird.  

Why are we even bothering with him? We know what he is doing lol.

Using logic and understanding the game

You're a clown, I hope you know that no one on this site has any respect for what you say and we take you as what you are, a troll.

Yes, me having a different opinion makes me a troll.  Just like you all must think everyone that likes Tori, Kaycee and CT are just trolling.  Imagine people liking those that are actually good at the game.  Shocking.

oh they're good at the game? wow maybe we should be able to criticize those not noticing that and doing something about it.

but wait that's also wrong and we should feel dumb 

Anyway, bets on which rookie and which vet have the highest confessional average?

 

Watch them turn Kaycee's win into a heroic, inspirational story about her bouncing back from her injury (as if they didn't play "Karma Chameleon" when she got hurt).

We already know this is gonna happen lol. I'm excited for Amanda to get the robbed queen edit for going out right before the final

Can't wait until Tori destroys the girl that can't make a final.  Would have been even better had it been Emy

This ***** constantly complains about fake and unnecessary drama on the challenge and then goes and starts fake and unnecessary drama on Vevmo. You are 40, this is embarrassing. Your constant need to have an unpopular opinion and argue with people half your age on a regular basis is concerning.

I don't like Amanda and I've said that since she debuted.  I don't understand why I'm supposed to like her because others do.  It doesn't make any sense.  I will enjoy Amanda losing because she's a hypocrite.  She criticizes other women for the men in their life than did what she did.  Amanda's all bark but no bite.  The fact anyone is mad that I'm glad she lost is weird.  

No one's asking you to like Amanda. You're very strange. Someone was excited about their fave and you felt the need to jump in for NO REASON (as usual) and tried to get a reaction out of them, saying you cant wait until she gets "destroyed" and she cant make a final. Dont act dumb, you know what you were doing.

Just a few weeks ago you were talking about how you would be okay with Amanda winning over the other female vets because she needs the money. You switch your story so you can argue more because thats the attention you crave.

You're doing the same thing right now by calling Amanda a hypocrite. Im not gonna give you the confrontation you want. Amanda left that man, the women she criticizes didnt. Its not the same thing. Go speak on the life choice's of women 15 years younger than you elsewhere.

 

Why are we even bothering with him? We know what he is doing lol.

Using logic and understanding the game

You're a clown, I hope you know that no one on this site has any respect for what you say and we take you as what you are, a troll.

Yes, me having a different opinion makes me a troll.  Just like you all must think everyone that likes Tori, Kaycee and CT are just trolling.  Imagine people liking those that are actually good at the game.  Shocking.

You're a troll. We literally all know it ****. You always try to get reactions out of people and have a crippling need to oppose whatever the majority's opinion is. Its okay, just own it. You dont get enough attention irl.

Anyway, bets on which rookie and which vet have the highest confessional average?

Emy and Tori 

Anyway, bets on which rookie and which vet have the highest confessional average?

Emy for the rookies but vets is honestly hard, I could see it being any of Tori/CT/Kyle/Devin with a small chance of Nelson/Amanda/Josh

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