The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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I really wish we had theo back. He was the whole package and would be a great black winner. if we wanna talk about robbed it's him and his poor eye.

Theo was PERFECT. Drama, hookup, competition, hotness, he brought it all but he has to be the one with a semi-functional eye, smdh Sad

we should be close enough for a double elimination

Until next season (maybe), goodbye vevmo and have fun Smile see y'all in few months 

It sounds like CT and Tori have been sitting pretty from day 1 lol

Apparently the person that called out Tori (I forgot who did that) made a major mistake.  Now is when Tori could be in trouble though.  Not sure she's anyone's #1

I hope the house they're staying at is nice

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

i mean at this point they should be trying to get rid of Devin and Josh at all costs I think we can agree on that lmao

i can legit see nelson seeing elimination from here on out 

 

It sounds like CT and Tori have been sitting pretty from day 1 lol

Apparently the person that called out Tori (I forgot who did that) made a major mistake.  Now is when Tori could be in trouble though.  Not sure she's anyone's #1

I think she's sitting pretty in the middle like Dirty 30 (unfortunately). I can see Nany/Kaycee vs Ashley/Amanda

Ugh I can see everyone i want at the end (Ashley, Amanda, Logan, Emanual, Emy) all going next tbh. This isn't looking good.

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

i mean at this point they should be trying to get rid of Devin and Josh at all costs I think we can agree on that lmao

Okay I'll take that as an agreement then--instead of saying keep CT I'll say eliminate those 2 then play it out  lol

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

Why are you so desperate to be right? No, not everyone agrees with that. Someone like Amanda has no reason to keep CT. If she has a partner who can run faster than her, she can do puzzles. People who have no shot at being partnered with CT should not be keeping CT around, it doesnt make any sense. Why would you assume you switch partners throughout the final???

Ugh I can see everyone i want at the end (Ashley, Amanda, Logan, Emanual, Emy) all going next tbh. This isn't looking good.

Yeah, I'd be real worried about Ashley/Amanda at this point especially if the vet guys might be willing to keep Emy around now.

omg emanuel is still there, thats my baby

 

Why are people complaining about the number of black people left?   Were people complaining there weren't enough white people left last season?   It's about who plays the best game and wins eliminations regardless of race.  I wish Michaela was still there and would have won but she failed (even if we blame Renan)

obviously its about who plays the best game, but it does also come down to the fact that representation matters KVM, in the last like 13 years there have legitimately only been 3 African American Winners (Amber, Nehemiah and Janelle) and only one other POC (Dee) that have won 

and to use another example other than race, same with LGBT, as a gay male we havent had a winner since Frank, and most of the gay males specifically they cast are what the straights view as stereotypical gays, and thats not who i want representing me 

and so while i do agree that who plays the best game should be there in the end etc, representation is also very important and is why many of us get upset when the final ppl left isnt diverse

He knew exactly why people were complaining, representation isnt a hard concept. He wants to act dumb and play the reverse card. No one cared that there were only a few white people left last season. White people dont need representation. Its not rocket science for us to want POC to succeed. He's a weird old *** hag.

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

Why are you so desperate to be right. No, not everyone agrees with that. Someone like Amanda has no reason to keep CT. If she has a partner who can run faster than her, she can do puzzles. People who have no shot at being partnered with CT should not be keeping CT around, it doesnt make any sense. Why would you assume you switch partners throughout the final???

LMAO thinking Amanda wouldn't benefit from CT.   CT is much more than someone that does puzzles.  He's also better at puzzles than Amanda.  I never assumed they would switch but you can't rule it out.  If they do they're making a mistake. 

 

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

i mean at this point they should be trying to get rid of Devin and Josh at all costs I think we can agree on that lmao

Okay I'll take that as an agreement then--instead of saying keep CT I'll say eliminate those 2 then play it out  lol

No I think you're right. I do think the ideal situation for Ashley and Amanda's game would be to have him out. HOWEVER, I concede that targetting him on the hopes that someone can eliminate him (probably unlikely) would likely backfire and he would end up with Kaycee and Tori who will likely win under his wing.

The good news about Amanda/Ashley potentially being in the last few elims is that if they manage to pull out wins, they could set themselves up nicely with partners and maybe even snag CT.

Why are people complaining about the number of black people left?   Were people complaining there weren't enough white people left last season?   It's about who plays the best game and wins eliminations regardless of race.  I wish Michaela was still there and would have won but she failed (even if we blame Renan)

obviously its about who plays the best game, but it does also come down to the fact that representation matters KVM, in the last like 13 years there have legitimately only been 3 African American Winners (Amber, Nehemiah and Janelle) and only one other POC (Dee) that have won 

and to use another example other than race, same with LGBT, as a gay male we havent had a winner since Frank, and most of the gay males specifically they cast are what the straights view as stereotypical gays, and thats not who i want representing me 

and so while i do agree that who plays the best game should be there in the end etc, representation is also very important and is why many of us get upset when the final ppl left isnt diverse

He knew exactly why people were complaining, representation isnt a hard concept. He wants to act dumb and play the reverse card. No one cared that there were only a few white people left last season. White people dont need representation. Its not rocket science for us to want POC to succeed. He's a weird old *** hag.

Why shouldn't white people want to be represented?  That doesn't even make sense.

Fallen King.

Ryder he did it for you.

It literally took CT nine seasons and five finals to get his first win. And now most people are guessing he's about to get win #5. Assuming people can't win based on the number of seasons they've done makes no sense. These games come down to luck just as much as skill. There are plenty of players from the early seasons who would have never made a final, let alone win, if not for big team formats. Similarly, there are plenty of people who have yet to make a final in the modern era but would probably destroy a final. 

just find it really selfish they took out the man with children? that's just really insensitive like we're in a pandemic

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

no, because only one girl probably gets to run with him. 

 

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

Why are you so desperate to be right. No, not everyone agrees with that. Someone like Amanda has no reason to keep CT. If she has a partner who can run faster than her, she can do puzzles. People who have no shot at being partnered with CT should not be keeping CT around, it doesnt make any sense. Why would you ***ume you switch partners throughout the final???

LMAO thinking Amanda wouldn't benefit from CT.   CT is much more than someone that does puzzles.  He's also better at puzzles than Amanda.  I never ***umed they would switch but you can't rule it out.  If they do they're making a mistake. 

CT is never picking Amanda to be his partner and Amanda is never going into elimination and winning to pick him. You're the only one ruling out that they WONT switch becauseyour *** has BEEN saying AlL ThE wOMen arE StUpiD iF THeY gEt RiD oF CT. They havent switched partners in finals since Dirty Thirty.

Even if they DID switch, Amanda isnt going to benefit from having CT as a partner in one stage, if everyone stronger than her gets him in another stage. Someone like Amanda is better off completely getting rid of CT in hopes that she can win with Kyle/Nelson/rookie.

Wow, Amber and Jeremiahs mist really caught up with Cory and Bettina. So powerful 

 

Do we all now agree the women need to keep CT with Cory gone?  Please....lol

no, because only one girl probably gets to run with him. 

His brain doesnt understand that. He's stuck on the same point because he thinks he's always right.

It literally took CT nine seasons and five finals to get his first win. And now most people are guessing he's about to get win #5. Assuming people can't win based on the number of seasons they've done makes no sense. These games come down to luck just as much as skill. There are plenty of players from the early seasons who would have never made a final, let alone win, if not for big team formats. Similarly, there are plenty of people who have yet to make a final in the modern era but would probably destroy a final. 

CT is an anamoly of someone who clearly should have been winning but was not due to various circumstances. On the other hand you can't say that any of the vets left with the exception of Nelson (not the same level still but he's good) really have proven to be a force nearly as good as CT was then or now. Those are just facts lol. 

I'm over CT winning too and would love a different outcome, but Cory losing his 9th season, Kyle about to lose his 7th etc is not the same as CT losing for 8 seasons before he won.

CT is never picking Amanda to be his partner and Amanda is never going into elimination and winning to pick him. You're the only one ruling out that they WONT switch becauseyour *** has BEEN saying AlL ThE wOMen arE StUpiD iF THeY gEt RiD oF CT. They havent switched partners in finals since Dirty Thirty.

Even if they DID switch, Amanda isnt going to benefit from having CT as a partner in one stage, if everyone stronger than her gets him in another stage. Someone like Amanda is better off completely getting rid of CT in hopes that she can win with Kyle/Nelson/rookie.

Amanda very likely is going to be in elimination soon based on how things are going. Based on when it is (top 7, top 6, top 5), she needs to be strategic on who she picks. 

Picking CT probably is her best move because he will help her stay safe and win dailies which the remaining vets are not good at. It is also dangerous because CT is likely to get stolen again if they don't win the daily.

She needs to be aiming to get CT, Logan, Emanual, or Nelson. All have their pluses and minuses, but her best move is probably choosing CT, hopefully winning the dailies, and getting rid of people who are targeting her.

KVM is stubborn but he does have a point. Who exactly is eliminating CT if he's targetted lol

 

Why are people complaining about the number of black people left?   Were people complaining there weren't enough white people left last season?   It's about who plays the best game and wins eliminations regardless of race.  I wish Michaela was still there and would have won but she failed (even if we blame Renan)

obviously its about who plays the best game, but it does also come down to the fact that representation matters KVM, in the last like 13 years there have legitimately only been 3 African American Winners (Amber, Nehemiah and Janelle) and only one other POC (Dee) that have won 

and to use another example other than race, same with LGBT, as a gay male we havent had a winner since Frank, and most of the gay males specifically they cast are what the straights view as stereotypical gays, and thats not who i want representing me 

and so while i do agree that who plays the best game should be there in the end etc, representation is also very important and is why many of us get upset when the final ppl left isnt diverse

He knew exactly why people were complaining, representation isnt a hard concept. He wants to act dumb and play the reverse card. No one cared that there were only a few white people left last season. White people dont need representation. Its not rocket science for us to want POC to succeed. He's a weird old *** hag.

Why shouldn't white people want to be represented?  That doesn't even make sense.

??? LMAO im arguing with a *******. WHITE PEOPLE DONT NEED REPRESENTATION. You're asking me why white people shouldn't want to be represented after Sarah, Cara, Jamie, CT, Ashley, Jordan, Hunter, Jenny, Bananas, etc won in the last couple years??? What ae white people representing? Why is white representation needed?

i mean obviously it's taking people a while to win, compared to back then? there was a team season every other season, half the time team seasons were consecutive which is why people like katie are challenge champions. not saying katie sucks but if she was in this era? she would have never won.

it makes sense for people to be on their nineth season in this era w/o a win, cory has been here since bloodlines and has never seen a team format. war of the worlds II was his only chance which is sad, cause one team season out of almost twenty seasons since the last one really says why we get the same champions.

CT is probably the presumptive favorite, but the only guy I'd be shocked to see win is Josh at this point, and the only girl I'd be shocked to see win is Big T, (although I'd be close to shock with Nany.)

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