The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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I too think people are underestimating Josh. With the right partner he can do decent in a final. Don't remember him having an issue with endurance and he can swim. 

he can't even throw a ball

 What's that got to do with the finals  ? 

do yall really belive josh will win

Yeah I do ,I honestly feel like with the right partner he can 

So, if he gets CT?

 

A Kaycee or Ashley could do 

"With the right partner" y'all say that for damn near everyone on this cast give it up already some of y'all favs just don't have what it takes to win a final

Nelson needs the right partner to win too sooo

The only people that might be able to help josh are Ashley and Amanda. He is too dumb to do any puzzles etc himself especially under pressure. And both of those girls would probably freak out once josh starts panicking.  

josh is a final is almost a guaranteed loss for both him and his partner because he panicks. I can pretty much see/hear the cut-away of him crying and panicking mid final now lol

 

"With the right partner" y'all say that for damn near everyone on this cast give it up already some of y'all favs just don't have what it takes to win a final

Nelson needs the right partner to win too sooo

I like nelson but he isn't one of my "favs" i just want a black winner and he's our only option left. Nany on the other hand has no shot of winning 

Its 9:00PM in Croatia, so that means 2 females are facing off in elimination right now, right?

 

 

"With the right partner" y'all say that for damn near everyone on this cast give it up already some of y'all favs just don't have what it takes to win a final

Nelson needs the right partner to win too sooo

I like nelson but he isn't one of my "favs" i just want a black winner and he's our only option left. Nany on the other hand has no shot of winning 

With the right partner she does :) 

Whoever the producers want to win is who will win. This show isn't even real anymore

 

Why are people complaining about the number of black people left?   Were people complaining there weren't enough white people left last season?   It's about who plays the best game and wins eliminations regardless of race.  I wish Michaela was still there and would have won but she failed (even if we blame Renan)

obviously its about who plays the best game, but it does also come down to the fact that representation matters KVM, in the last like 13 years there have legitimately only been 3 African American Winners (Amber, Nehemiah and Janelle) and only one other POC (Dee) that have won 

and to use another example other than race, same with LGBT, as a gay male we havent had a winner since Frank, and most of the gay males specifically they cast are what the straights view as stereotypical gays, and thats not who i want representing me 

and so while i do agree that who plays the best game should be there in the end etc, representation is also very important and is why many of us get upset when the final ppl left isnt diverse

they need to stop casting Cory and people who won't win then. Cory isn't even entertaining anymore lol we can be mad at their casting choices but we can't be mad at the people left and call them "mayo" because they're white when people like Cory and amber are the definition of boring "Mayo" anyway 

I agree representation matters but I'm more mad at how they're casting than how the results are turning out 

"With the right partner" y'all say that for damn near everyone on this cast give it up already some of y'all favs just don't have what it takes to win a final

If you sum up all the opinions of Vevmo, no one but CT and Ashley has a chance of winning Lol.They are not gods, CT screwed up several times in the final( Battle of the Exes 2, Dirty Thirty), Ashley lost due to a puzzle in WOTW2.We don't know what form the participants of the show are in, what type of finale it will be, what location, and who will be partners with whom.

If you sum up all the opinions of Vevmo, no one but CT and Ashley has a chance of winning Lol.They are not gods, CT screwed up several times in the final( Battle of the Exes 2, Dirty Thirty), Ashley lost due to a puzzle in WOTW2.We don't know what form the participants of the show are in, what type of finale it will be, what location, and who will be partners with whom.

you cannot seriously look at Kyle, devin, josh, and Nelson and tell me you see more potential to win than CT lol there's a basis behind our reasoning 

I too think people are underestimating Josh. With the right partner he can do decent in a final. Don't remember him having an issue with endurance and he can swim. 

he can't even throw a ball

 What's that got to do with the finals  ? 

do yall really belive josh will win

Yeah I do ,I honestly feel like with the right partner he can 

So, if he gets CT?

A Kaycee or Ashley could do 

The only way he wins with Ashley or Kaycee is if the rest of the final is Devin/Nany, Kyle/Big T and I can't even name a third but it has to be bottom tier competitors

This has been a terrible

wat if cory did try to make a play against ct/other vets and thats why he was the first male vet sent in. I really feel like he prob went againt nelson the second time 

 

If you sum up all the opinions of Vevmo, no one but CT and Ashley has a chance of winning Lol.They are not gods, CT screwed up several times in the final( Battle of the Exes 2, Dirty Thirty), Ashley lost due to a puzzle in WOTW2.We don't know what form the participants of the show are in, what type of finale it will be, what location, and who will be partners with whom.

you cannot seriously look at Kyle, devin, josh, and Nelson and tell me you see more potential to win than CT lol there's a basis behind our reasoning 

If Kyle or Nelson are in the final with Ashley, they can beat CT, there are too many circumstances that play a role.We don't even know what form it's in?He won the Invasion, and then failed miserably in the Dirty Thirty

Why are people complaining about the number of black people left?   Were people complaining there weren't enough white people left last season?   It's about who plays the best game and wins eliminations regardless of race.  I wish Michaela was still there and would have won but she failed (even if we blame Renan)

obviously its about who plays the best game, but it does also come down to the fact that representation matters KVM, in the last like 13 years there have legitimately only been 3 African American Winners (Amber, Nehemiah and Janelle) and only one other POC (Dee) that have won 

and to use another example other than race, same with LGBT, as a gay male we havent had a winner since Frank, and most of the gay males specifically they cast are what the straights view as stereotypical gays, and thats not who i want representing me 

and so while i do agree that who plays the best game should be there in the end etc, representation is also very important and is why many of us get upset when the final ppl left isnt diverse

But we had solid representation early on and recently.  It was poor around the JEK era for sure.    

And I'm fine with wanting more and better representation--it's we can't complain when we get representation like Kelz, Jeremiah and Michaela and they flop  That's not on production.  They do need strong gay males--I won't argue that at all.  

It's also fine not to like the final 7 but some of the comments being made are acceptable IMO.  It's not production's fault people failed.  We had great representation last season and everyone complained when CT won.  If these guys in their 20s and 30s can't beat a 40 year old CT there's issues way beyond race.

I hope they are doing a double elimination Rn 

Not Cory!

I think this has been the worst spoiler season ever like this season is so bland and boring. There's no excitement whatsoever at all.  

 

 

 

If you sum up all the opinions of Vevmo, no one but CT and Ashley has a chance of winning Lol.They are not gods, CT screwed up several times in the final( Battle of the Exes 2, Dirty Thirty), Ashley lost due to a puzzle in WOTW2.We don't know what form the participants of the show are in, what type of finale it will be, what location, and who will be partners with whom.

you cannot seriously look at Kyle, devin, josh, and Nelson and tell me you see more potential to win than CT lol there's a basis behind our reasoning 

If Kyle or Nelson are in the final with Ashley, they can beat CT, there are too many circumstances that play a role.We don't even know what form it's in?He won the Invasion, and then failed miserably in the Dirty Thirty

he was a good 50 pounds out of shape going against a top 3 finals runner or all time and Derrick who is also in shape and good

 

Why are people complaining about the number of black people left?   Were people complaining there weren't enough white people left last season?   It's about who plays the best game and wins eliminations regardless of race.  I wish Michaela was still there and would have won but she failed (even if we blame Renan)

obviously its about who plays the best game, but it does also come down to the fact that representation matters KVM, in the last like 13 years there have legitimately only been 3 African American Winners (Amber, Nehemiah and Janelle) and only one other POC (Dee) that have won 

and to use another example other than race, same with LGBT, as a gay male we havent had a winner since Frank, and most of the gay males specifically they cast are what the straights view as stereotypical gays, and thats not who i want representing me 

and so while i do agree that who plays the best game should be there in the end etc, representation is also very important and is why many of us get upset when the final ppl left isnt diverse

I guess there's no Hispanics or Asians left on this show right or anybody who represents lgbtq...

This concerns me for the safety of Amanda Ashley and Nelson.

MTV heading towards three bad seasons in a row......we're entering Exes/Bloodlines/Rivals 3 territory again 

Praying for Nany right now 

 

 

Clermont from this site is getting drag on twitter for being ignorant on the quote tweets

https://twitter.com/aissatadiallos/status/1404592929293881345?s=19

And what does this have to do with S37? Keep your twitter drama out of here, lol. This is ******* ridiculous.

Why didn't you call out the user who shared the Mattie tattoo? Or your last post saying people are losers because of the amount of posts, that pertains to the season and adds speculation? No? Didn't think so. Keep the same energy or go back to enjoying life off Vevmo

What Mattie tattoo? I have not seen any post about that ugly *** Mack truck built like ***** anywhere in here. You need to stay in your lane, just a heads up. Wink

By no means am I defending clermonts, I didn't open that link but it seemed like it was someone come in here trying to "expose" them or something as if it would affect anything around here. Keep anything about users on twitter over there, that's all.

I really wish we had theo back. He was the whole package and would be a great black winner. if we wanna talk about robbed it's him and his poor eye.

 

Why are people complaining about the number of black people left?   Were people complaining there weren't enough white people left last season?   It's about who plays the best game and wins eliminations regardless of race.  I wish Michaela was still there and would have won but she failed (even if we blame Renan)

obviously its about who plays the best game, but it does also come down to the fact that representation matters KVM, in the last like 13 years there have legitimately only been 3 African American Winners (Amber, Nehemiah and Janelle) and only one other POC (Dee) that have won 

and to use another example other than race, same with LGBT, as a gay male we havent had a winner since Frank, and most of the gay males specifically they cast are what the straights view as stereotypical gays, and thats not who i want representing me 

and so while i do agree that who plays the best game should be there in the end etc, representation is also very important and is why many of us get upset when the final ppl left isnt diverse

But we had solid representation early on and recently.  It was poor around the JEK era for sure.    

And I'm fine with wanting more and better representation--it's we can't complain when we get representation like Kelz, Jeremiah and Michaela and they flop  That's not on production.  They do need strong gay males--I won't argue that at all.  

It's also fine not to like the final 7 but some of the comments being made are acceptable IMO.  It's not production's fault people failed.  We had great representation last season and everyone complained when CT won.  If these guys in their 20s and 30s can't beat a 40 year old CT there's issues way beyond race.

definitely agree that representation across the board in the pre-JEK days was great, and allowed for diverse winners, people shining etc 

should've ate up season 37

Imo Cory and Leroy are the black males that need to retire to make room for people who can actually win. They've done this 9+ and like 14+ times and can't figure it out. Time for some good new blood like the Theo types.

I really wish we had theo back. He was the whole package and would be a great black winner. if we wanna talk about robbed it's him and his poor eye.

this is so true!! They stopped his bag

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