The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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Tori needs to "come" for a dermatologist to get that mole near her eyebrow removed.

not going to lie that shit bothers me lol 

Tori has been in great shape for the last 3 seasons. Her level of fitness is not the reason she's had two early exits. Her political  game and deductive reasoning skills are the problem.

Tori has been in great shape for the last 3 seasons. Her level of fitness is not the reason she's had two early exits. Her social game and deductive reasoning skills are the problem.

She also has horrible strategy in eliminations. When she was on her hands and knees pushing individual pieces of plaster through the holes in her elimination vs Jenna, I knew right then she was a complete moron lmao

oh well that's tori's fault. she could be a champion rn if she accepted jordan's offer to take his spot on the boat, instead she decided to be dumb and give him his third win.

imagine how big of a eat that'd be, steal jordan's win then break up with him and mess around with the man that broke his arm.

i really hope the two love island boys make it on, the male cast needs mess since TYB calmed down 

she def wasnt "boring and quiet" on survivor lol have you ever even watched the seasons she was on? she's literally known as one  the most fiery winners ever and had so many arguments. A lot of the cast of heroes at war hated her

 

anderson is probably the most overrated/overhyped rookie ever

and had to leave because she was pregnant. just wait until 37

she wasnt giving anything before that either, got slammed by nany. struggled against ashley. like seriously i dont see it. she was never entertaining, she's not a MTV girl.

she was cute on amazing race, but her sister was there and bought the personality out of her. then she was boring and quiet on survivor, and now she's boring and quiet here.

 

she def wasnt "boring and quiet" on survivor lol have you ever even watched the seasons she was on? she's literally known as one  the most fiery winners ever and had so many arguments. A lot of the cast of heroes at war hated her

 

anderson is probably the most overrated/overhyped rookie ever

and had to leave because she was pregnant. just wait until 37

she wasnt giving anything before that either, got slammed by nany. struggled against ashley. like seriously i dont see it. she was never entertaining, she's not a MTV girl.

she was cute on amazing race, but her sister was there and bought the personality out of her. then she was boring and quiet on survivor, and now she's boring and quiet here.

yeah she was easily one of the most polarizing winners and contestants on the show lol

she def wasnt "boring and quiet" on survivor lol have you ever even watched the seasons she was on? she's literally known as one  the most fiery winners ever and had so many arguments. A lot of the cast of heroes at war hated her

 

anderson is probably the most overrated/overhyped rookie ever

and had to leave because she was pregnant. just wait until 37

she wasnt giving anything before that either, got slammed by nany. struggled against ashley. like seriously i dont see it. she was never entertaining, she's not a MTV girl.

she was cute on amazing race, but her sister was there and bought the personality out of her. then she was boring and quiet on survivor, and now she's boring and quiet here.

When did she get slammed by Nany? People really just be writing anything lol

being "messy" or "polarizing" on a tame family network like CBS is not the same as actually being those things. we see it all the time. 

omg listen idc anymore. yall just cant handle the truth.

she only stood out on cbs because those girls  have calmer personalities, on mtv we get bolder personlaities all the damn time so she easily blends in. she's not something we never had before.

being "messy" or "polarizing" on a tame family network like CBS is not the same as actually being those things. we see it all the time. 

Tori gained all that muscle and weight and watch her still flop

People like Natalie, Kam, etc. need to stay away from the show.

People like Natalie, Amber B, etc. need to stay away from the show.

manifesting returns from Marie, Amanda and Laurel

ok there's clearly some weird personal reason some people literally cannot stop shitting on Natalie so fine, if it'll shut them up to say she's boring, then sure, "she's boring"

 

 

*yet somehow both on survivor and the challenge forums ppl can't stop talking about her heh. Like the fact that this non-stop discussion is happening is even more proof, bc i don't see anyone having long *** debates trying to claim Amber B is fun

Like I'm still not over the person who claimed Natalie was racist, claimed they had the receipts to back it up, then never came through with the receipts and ignored any other times that people have asked for receipts like it never happened. If you're gonna claim somebody is racist then you should demonstrate it

I guess they'd prefer someone who is desperate for camera time (Josh) than someone who has drama only when they *need* to have drama or someone whose so mentally unstable they can't do more than one of these in a row without losing their shit

the way i look at it really everyone we have seen from CBS with the exception of Da'vonne has either been boring, put on a show for fake storylines, annoying or a combination 

at least with people from other MTV shows theyre usually messy and more fun to watch

Paulie without question has been the best addition from CBS

I guess they'd prefer someone who is desperate for camera time (Josh) than someone who has drama only when they *need* to have drama or someone whose so mentally unstable they can't do more than one of these in a row without losing their shit

or wild and crazy thought. some of us want none of the above and also don't care about the CBS girls 

 

I guess they'd prefer someone who is desperate for camera time (Josh) than someone who has drama only when they *need* to have drama or someone whose so mentally unstable they can't do more than one of these in a row without losing their shit

or wild and crazy thought. some of us want none of the above and also don't care about the CBS girls 

You don't have to "care for them" but to speak with such certainty that someone who had three episodes and had to leave early has shown all they had to show sounds like jumping the gun to me.

Like if she was able to have such a polarizing effect from such "tame cbs" people, then wouldn't it stand to reason that "batshit insane mtv people" might be even more polarized by her personality on account of their mental instabilities? Didn't she have an entire *** season of the amazing race hate her too? Like there's only so many excuses you can have to say someone is a boring figure despite seeing a whole *** resume of two different shows of people who clearly didn't like her

manifesting returns from Marie, Amanda and Laurel

Would i have liked Paulie back this season, yes. But at the same time im not going to pretend that we all not were fed up and constantly complained about him being on the show because of his and kyles obvious fake rivarly that went on for seasons.

I much perfer Paulies persoanlity weve seen on his break than his staged personality we saw on the show

Like if she was able to have such a polarizing effect from such "tame cbs" people, then wouldn't it stand to reason that "batshit insane mtv people" might be even more polarized by her personality on account of their mental instabilities? Didn't she have an entire *** season of the amazing race hate her too? Like there's only so many excuses you can have to say someone is a boring figure despite seeing a whole *** resume of two different shows of people who clearly didn't like her

as someone who loved Natalie on TAR/Survivor i think its different in the sense that its easier for people with personality to shine on those shows....Survivor maybe has 1-2 good "villains" / personalities a season TAR maybe you occasionally get beef between teams and a few dramatic moments, but those shows have always been focused way more on the competition aspect, whereas The Challenge has always been (well at least used to up until past few seasons) filled with dramatic characters 

while i dont think Natalie was as boring as people have been saying she was, im still mehhh towards her being on the challenge (as i am with most of the CBS people we've had)

75% of the cast from Double Agents need to stay home, they are not needed its the same recylce cast from the past what 2, 3 seasons? We need more surprises and people we havent seen lately oh and entertaining rookies! 

Would i have liked Paulie back this season, yes. But at the same time im not going to pretend that we all not were fed up and constantly complained about him being on the show because of his and kyles obvious fake rivarly that went on for seasons.

I much perfer Paulies persoanlity weve seen on his break than his staged personality we saw on the show

Yea Paulie, Johnny, and Cara are more tolerable outside of the show. It's like the show really brings out the worst in some people.

75% of the cast from Double Agents need to stay home, they are not needed its the same recylce cast from the past what 2, 3 seasons? We need more surprises and people we havent seen lately oh and entertaining rookies! 

That's always been the case though, no need to have the same cast in back to back seasons.

When is Paulie ever tolerable? He's such a loser. He was a failed athlete who took the challenge wayyyy to serious to over compensate for his failed career. Him and Cara are embarrassingly cringe.

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