We could only be so lucky. She is literally one of the best cast members from any season starting with a 3 <3 (after Queen V of course) Ugh, I'd love for her to come back. Def one of my favs
I don't think that any of us believe that the women having no voice (other than Susie & Jenn) for a long time on the show was a good thing or that John, Kenny & Evan weren't toxic. It was sad that we went from the women (Emily, Coral & Veronica especially) having control to them being disregrded.
I don't think the intent with Cheyenne was racist, I think it was just a jab that she was forgettable. It's a joke with my friends to call someone the wrong name if they are being boring. Maybe it's because all three Chantel's I knew were white so I didn't see it as him using a stereotypical name.
My buddy's wife's name is Chantel and she's white. That's what they're stating is racist? lmao
They was also calling her Simone when she doesn't look nor act like Simone at all.
Who is "they"? But context matters. Were they saying she was irrelevant as Simone?
Is this like Camila just not taking the time to know who was Jasmine & Jonna on Rivals? lol
I don't think the intent with Cheyenne was racist, I think it was just a jab that she was forgettable. It's a joke with my friends to call someone the wrong name if they are being boring. Maybe it's because all three Chantel's I knew were white so I didn't see it as him using a stereotypical name.
My buddy's wife's name is Chantel and she's white. That's what they're stating is racist? lmao
They was also calling her Simone when she doesn't look nor act like Simone at all.
Shantel is a typical black name. They knew they could use this as subtle racism.
^ I'm not even from Twitter lol it's just FACTS. You know how a baby gets entertained by you playing "Peekaboo", that's exactly what Marie gives and just because y'all are on that level of competence doesn't mean everyone else is or has to be & y'all are goofy thinking telling someone to back to Twitter or Reddit is a read. Nobody cares about y'all McDonalds grease smelling *****, nor this site. Just because you try to make a career out of posting on here, doesn't make you any better than the next.
well clearly you do care, because you're the only one that got incredibly pressed by things people said and tried to resort to lowblows and personal attacks, KVM, asia and many others all said how they feel in an understandable and respectable manner and that's perfectly cool cause some of us are able to awknowledge that its perfectly normal and expected for people to like different people
What did I say that was a low blow or a personal attack? Get out of your feelings. Also, I don't have to speak in a way that is "understandable" or "respectable" because who are y'all to me? I'm going to say what I want, how I want to say it because I have the freedom to do that. What I said, didn't cause for a response, y'all just mad because I'm telling the truth.
child i am nowhere near in my feelings, i just think its funny when someone cant have a normal discussion without getting pressed and resorting to saying how "Nobody cares about y'all McDonalds grease smelling *****, nor this site."
Usually that's a reflection of something deeper going on in their lives and for that i wish you all the best, maybe the stans on Reddit or Twitter can help ease your pain
It isn't a reflection of anything. Don't deflect your personal internal struggles onto me. I'm living life, hence why I don't post here daily. You probably look like an obese version of the lizard **** in your profile picture behind the screen. I know it's taking everything out of you to power type as fast as you can with your sausage fingers, to try and get everything you need to say out, but it was never that serious!
Wow...you seem like a lovely person. Try to smile - it'll make you feel better and you'll be less vile.
I don't think the intent with Cheyenne was racist, I think it was just a jab that she was forgettable. It's a joke with my friends to call someone the wrong name if they are being boring. Maybe it's because all three Chantel's I knew were white so I didn't see it as him using a stereotypical name.
My buddy's wife's name is Chantel and she's white. That's what they're stating is racist? lmao
They was also calling her Simone when she doesn't look nor act like Simone at all.
Who is "they"? But context matters. Were they saying she was irrelevant as Simone?
Is this like Camila just not taking the time to know who was Jasmine & Jonna on Rivals? lol
Knowing Camila racist behavior on future seasons that's not the best comparison
I don't think the intent with Cheyenne was racist, I think it was just a jab that she was forgettable. It's a joke with my friends to call someone the wrong name if they are being boring. Maybe it's because all three Chantel's I knew were white so I didn't see it as him using a stereotypical name.
My buddy's wife's name is Chantel and she's white. That's what they're stating is racist? lmao
They was also calling her Simone when she doesn't look nor act like Simone at all.
Who is "they"? But context matters? Were they saying she was irrelevant as Simone?
Is this like Camila just not taking the time to know who was Jasmine & Jonna on Rivals? lol
No, simone was long gone by then, they voted Cheyenne in so much they knew her damn name.
I don't think the intent with Cheyenne was racist, I think it was just a jab that she was forgettable. It's a joke with my friends to call someone the wrong name if they are being boring. Maybe it's because all three Chantel's I knew were white so I didn't see it as him using a stereotypical name.
My buddy's wife's name is Chantel and she's white. That's what they're stating is racist? lmao
They was also calling her Simone when she doesn't look nor act like Simone at all.
Shantel is a typical black name. They knew they could use this as subtle racism.
Just so I understand--you're saying they did this intentionally to be racist but thought it would be subtle that no one would know/care?
Still trying to figure out who "they"" are? John and Vince?
I don't think the intent with Cheyenne was racist, I think it was just a jab that she was forgettable. It's a joke with my friends to call someone the wrong name if they are being boring. Maybe it's because all three Chantel's I knew were white so I didn't see it as him using a stereotypical name.
My buddy's wife's name is Chantel and she's white. That's what they're stating is racist? lmao
They was also calling her Simone when she doesn't look nor act like Simone at all.
Who is "they"? But context matters. Were they saying she was irrelevant as Simone?
Is this like Camila just not taking the time to know who was Jasmine & Jonna on Rivals? lol
Knowing Camila racist behavior on future seasons that's not the best comparison
True but that was simply Camila not getting to know them
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even remotely close to the island or the ruins............
Who wants to see ******* pranks lmaooooooooo I watch this show for drama and hookups nothing else......this show has turned into such a shit show I can't even fake being a fan of this snoozefest.
The fact that anyone is clamoring for more pranks of all things is baffling to me lol
We all enjoy the show for different reasons. I love that is used to be like a fun adult summer camp. Being on the show used to be like a dream as a teenager. I enjoyed watching them have fun, party, mixed with good ole messy drama. I never cared about the missions. Now they don't have fun and the little drama they have is so awful and embarrassing. Getting paid to party with friends is why they all used to show up. Now they show up for social media clout and it's turned tragic.
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even remotely close to the island or the ruins............
The tone/vibe of the whole season was just as negative. The things that happened may have not been on the same level but it was just as dark and not as fun to watch as The Island and The Ruins, at least for me.
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even close lmao
War of the world 1 & 2 weren't even close to those 2 other seasons. There is a huge difference between reality show drama that went down on the war of the world seasons vs the disgusting antics on both The Island/The Ruins. Those 2 seasons didn't have any type of boundaries. The level of disrespect towards girls, the transphobia, the toothbrush incident, etc doesn't come close to anything that happens on current seasons.
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even close lmao
War of the world 1 & 2 weren't even close to those 2 other seasons. There is a huge difference between reality show drama that went down on the war of the world seasons vs the disgusting antics on both The Island/The Ruins. Those 2 seasons didn't have any type of boundaries.
I replied to someone else on this but to clarify the vibe/tone of the season was super dark. Not as much the actions that JEK did on those seasons. Nothing will ever be as bad as that (hopefully) but I got the same vibes watching the WOTW seasons as I did The Island and The Ruins.
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even remotely close to the island or the ruins............
The tone/vibe of the whole season was just as negative. The things that happened may have not been on the same level but it was just as dark and not as fun to watch as The Island and The Ruins, at least for me.
It was not just as dark.... what are you even talking about smh
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even remotely close to the island or the ruins............
The tone/vibe of the whole season was just as negative. The things that happened may have not been on the same level but it was just as dark and not as fun to watch as The Island and The Ruins, at least for me.
It was not just as dark.... what are you even talking about smh
I am not even a fan of those seasons either but neither were even dark lmaooooooo
Comparing them to The Island/The Ruins is so out of touch.
I agree--being on the show was a teenage (young adult! Ha!) dream for me, too! I don't mind the competition, "sport"-like aspect to current Challenges--I mean, I can remember enjoying that aspect even in early seasons (Oh, wow! They're sky-diving?! Ew, I could never eat that! How far are they running?! Whoa, they're really high up...etc.), but the FUN element has sort of fallen by the wayside. All current drama is contrived and forced and manufactured, a la that show UnReal (anyone watch that)...it's all alliances and skulls and who has power...
I wish season 37 would ease up a bit--simplify the game a bit so it's back to basics losers go in/group votes in the oppenents, and let certain things (like fun and drama) happen more organically.
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even remotely close to the island or the ruins............
The tone/vibe of the whole season was just as negative. The things that happened may have not been on the same level but it was just as dark and not as fun to watch as The Island and The Ruins, at least for me.
Dirty 30 didnt have simone get punched by a man and the winner of the season calling Leroy get the n word for people to say wotw was one of the darkest seasons......
Is Johnny delusional? Does he not know that he's part of the reason the show is trash today?
Nah I think production turned dark.. he was a part of some trash seasons earlier but the atmosphere of Invasion is not the same in Total Madness.
Nothing will compared to the atmosphere of the island and the ruins.
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even remotely close to the island or the ruins............
The tone/vibe of the whole season was just as negative. The things that happened may have not been on the same level but it was just as dark and not as fun to watch as The Island and The Ruins, at least for me.
It was not just as dark.... what are you even talking about smh
I am not even a fan of those seasons either but neither were even dark lmaooooooo
Comparing them to The Island/The Ruins is so out of touch.
WOTW2 was def dark - they all looked miserable, people like Paulie, Rogan, Bear, Turbo and Jordon were problamatic, they never looked like they were having an ounce of fun. To me that's dark. Just my opinion. It sent out super negative vibes like the other two for me. lol
Everyone on this forum will pretend that all the bad things that were done by the participants of this show(men and women) did not make this show interesting and popular.We watched this show precisely because of such dirty players, so that we could then evaluate and discuss their behavior.Now we get the most boring Amber B, Kaycee, Fessie, and blame the old members for making the show like this? Lol
Is queen jisela going to be on this?
We could only be so lucky. She is literally one of the best cast members from any season starting with a 3 <3 (after Queen V of course) Ugh, I'd love for her to come back. Def one of my favs
I don't think that any of us believe that the women having no voice (other than Susie & Jenn) for a long time on the show was a good thing or that John, Kenny & Evan weren't toxic. It was sad that we went from the women (Emily, Coral & Veronica especially) having control to them being disregrded.
Who is "they"? But context matters. Were they saying she was irrelevant as Simone?
Is this like Camila just not taking the time to know who was Jasmine & Jonna on Rivals? lol
Shantel is a typical black name. They knew they could use this as subtle racism.
Wow...you seem like a lovely person. Try to smile - it'll make you feel better and you'll be less vile.
Knowing Camila racist behavior on future seasons that's not the best comparison
No, simone was long gone by then, they voted Cheyenne in so much they knew her damn name.
Bananas isn't on 37? I'm so used to giving and now I get to recieve <3
Just so I understand--you're saying they did this intentionally to be racist but thought it would be subtle that no one would know/care?
Still trying to figure out who "they"" are? John and Vince?
True but that was simply Camila not getting to know them
The only seasons that compare to the horrible vibes of The Island and The Ruins (because of JEK) is WOTW 1& 2. Those four seasons were the darkest imo.
Not even remotely close to the island or the ruins............
Delted - double post
This describes my feelings exactly - well stated!
Did y'all just compare WOTW 1 and 2 to the ISLAND..?
The tone/vibe of the whole season was just as negative. The things that happened may have not been on the same level but it was just as dark and not as fun to watch as The Island and The Ruins, at least for me.
don't say y'all, its just one person with that absurd take
Not even close lmao
War of the world 1 & 2 weren't even close to those 2 other seasons. There is a huge difference between reality show drama that went down on the war of the world seasons vs the disgusting antics on both The Island/The Ruins. Those 2 seasons didn't have any type of boundaries. The level of disrespect towards girls, the transphobia, the toothbrush incident, etc doesn't come close to anything that happens on current seasons.
I replied to someone else on this but to clarify the vibe/tone of the season was super dark. Not as much the actions that JEK did on those seasons. Nothing will ever be as bad as that (hopefully) but I got the same vibes watching the WOTW seasons as I did The Island and The Ruins.
It was not just as dark.... what are you even talking about smh
I am not even a fan of those seasons either but neither were even dark lmaooooooo
Comparing them to The Island/The Ruins is so out of touch.
I agree--being on the show was a teenage (young adult! Ha!) dream for me, too! I don't mind the competition, "sport"-like aspect to current Challenges--I mean, I can remember enjoying that aspect even in early seasons (Oh, wow! They're sky-diving?! Ew, I could never eat that! How far are they running?! Whoa, they're really high up...etc.), but the FUN element has sort of fallen by the wayside. All current drama is contrived and forced and manufactured, a la that show UnReal (anyone watch that)...it's all alliances and skulls and who has power...
I wish season 37 would ease up a bit--simplify the game a bit so it's back to basics losers go in/group votes in the oppenents, and let certain things (like fun and drama) happen more organically.
One can hope!
You're delusional
I hope we get some All Stars representation on this season... Not counting Aneesa, Darrell, and Jemmye.
Dirty 30 didnt have simone get punched by a man and the winner of the season calling Leroy get the n word for people to say wotw was one of the darkest seasons......
WOTW2 was def dark - they all looked miserable, people like Paulie, Rogan, Bear, Turbo and Jordon were problamatic, they never looked like they were having an ounce of fun. To me that's dark. Just my opinion. It sent out super negative vibes like the other two for me. lol
Those are the obviously 3--I don't see anyone else showing up for 37 but I hope I'm wrong
Everyone on this forum will pretend that all the bad things that were done by the participants of this show(men and women) did not make this show interesting and popular.We watched this show precisely because of such dirty players, so that we could then evaluate and discuss their behavior.Now we get the most boring Amber B, Kaycee, Fessie, and blame the old members for making the show like this? Lol
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