The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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I feel like 90% of the cast made transphobic comments about Evelyn in the late 2000s. 

lol john is one of the biggest primary reasons why i stopped watching this show.. along w camila, cara, ct etc.

I guess labor laws about workplace harassment and hostile environments don't apply to reality shows (well, duh, but still..)

 

 

 

 

I never thought I'd say I miss Johnny...like ever. But he brings a more light energy to the house and show.

Yeah no lol He is one of the toxic males Trishelle was talking about on her interview. I would never find any antic that misogynist disrespectful ******* did as  "light energy".  

I guess. Obviously, I'm not there and I don't listen to podcast or anything. I've always known he was a ****** but assumed he was malicious. I forgot about the elevator incident though. I guess I just associate him with the era of the "Shit They Should've Shown" where they showcased all the parties, pranks, and good times.

Half of the pranks he has done were sexist, disgusting and misogynist. I am sorry you're losing credibility when you call current seasons dark and then called Bananas "light energy". He is one of the main reason that this show has become this way and was part of the 2 darkest seasons of this show by being one of the darkest cloud of both of those seasons.

Things that went down on The Island and The Ruins wouldn't be able to air now days without getting this show cancel. From the horrible treatment to girls to the **** shaming to the transphobic comments against Evelyn to Tonya treatment to the mysoginist prank to removing the girls top to getting in the showers while the girls were showering without their permission and the list goes on with things that also didn't air.

13(??) years later and I..I'm still in shock at how the men treated the women in a lot of seasons but specifically on the Island. And Bananas is the main person I remember doing it. The way he would speak to Kelly Anne and Evelyn..

The Island and The Ruins treatments against the girls were horrible production enable those 3 guys behavior in such a way that now days wouldn't be able to fly. Which is weird because The Duel 2 wasn't as dark as those 2 seasons even though it air in between maybe like you say Bananas played in a major role on the darkness of those seasons.

I rewatch those 2 seasons a few months ago and I am surprised that they though that behavior was okay.

I feel like 90% of the cast made transphobic comments about Evelyn in the late 2000s. 

The way they treated Evelyn on the Island was horrible

I feel like 90% of the cast made transphobic comments about Evelyn in the late 2000s. 

The way they treated Evelyn on the Island was horrible

It was--the way they treated KellyAnne & Robin was also horrible.  

Dan, Colie, Cohutta & Tyrie should all have been banned from the show for keeping Johnny over Abram.  Even Ryan not voting with Rachel, Jenn, Ev & KellyAnne was stupid.

 

Sorry for not knowing all the behind the scenes spoilers. I retract my statement of his light energy.

95% of the stuff I wrote were aired in episodes, reunion and shit they should have shown lol

Maybe I should rewatch lol...I just remember him always being a d-bag and super misogynistic on The Island.

 

 

Sorry for not knowing all the behind the scenes spoilers. I retract my statement of his light energy.

95% of the stuff I wrote were aired in episodes, reunion and shit they should have shown lol

Maybe I should rewatch lol...I just remember him always being a d-bag and super misogynistic on The Island.

Yea I just rewatched the S#!T They Should've Shown and most of those "pranks" on The Ruins where they guys ganging on Tonya with the baby powder, tossing pee water on Sarah, tying Casey to a chair and holding her up to a fan that had dirty underwear on it... definitely would not fly today. And production put all that in the actual episode like they were proud of it. 

 

 

 

I never thought I'd say I miss Johnny...like ever. But he brings a more light energy to the house and show.

Yeah no lol He is one of the toxic males Trishelle was talking about on her interview. I would never find any antic that misogynist disrespectful ******* did as  "light energy".  

I guess. Obviously, I'm not there and I don't listen to podcast or anything. I've always known he was a ****** but assumed he was malicious. I forgot about the elevator incident though. I guess I just associate him with the era of the "Shit They Should've Shown" where they showcased all the parties, pranks, and good times.

Half of the pranks he has done were sexist, disgusting and misogynist. I am sorry you're losing credibility when you call current seasons dark and then called Bananas "light energy". He is one of the main reason that this show has become this way and was part of the 2 darkest seasons of this show by being one of the darkest cloud of both of those seasons.

Things that went down on The Island and The Ruins wouldn't be able to air now days without getting this show cancel. From the horrible treatment to girls to the **** shaming to the transphobic comments against Evelyn to Tonya treatment to the mysoginist prank to removing the girls top to getting in the showers while the girls were showering without their permission and the list goes on with things that also didn't air.

What "fun" is bananas bringing? If I wanted to see a corny 40 year old man act like a teen I'd watch ridiculousness 

What "fun" is bananas bringing? If I wanted to see a corny 40 year old man act like a teen I'd watch ridiculousness 

He clearly has fans though even if you and I don't like him.  And, yeah, they may be the same people that watch ridiculousness 24-7 but they exist

I was wrong, I was wrong lol. We don't need Johnny back. We just need The Challenge to be fun with parties and appropriate pranks again. Stop making it such a serious competition, when the stuff they do isn't even that extreme or hard! Give us fun and drama again!

I was wrong, I was wrong lol. We don't need Johnny back. We just need The Challenge to be fun with parties and appropriate pranks again. Stop making it such a serious competition, when the stuff they do isn't even that extreme or hard! Give us fun and drama again!

Screw fun, this is show for money not a vacation, I want to see******* get cutthroat and more drama. 

It makes me sad knowing someone who worshipped the show is over it. That shows you how bad it really is. This isn't Big Brother. All that isolation isn't necessary and killing the vibe. Production clearly wants to create a toxic environment so drama can occur but the format of the game will naturally bring drama as we saw during the golden era. 

They really are still considering Ryan from BBUK?? Saw he did blackface and some transaphobic tweet. 

Its not that hard to do a background check on this kind of stuff.

Lol a lot of you sound hypocritical. You complain about the lack of fun, pranks, and partying on the show yet ya'll complain about "tOxIc MaScUlInItY". Ya'll are goofy.

We need personalities of ALL types on this show. Diversity is what makes this show so entertaining to watch, and I'm not talking about the color of your skin. Diversity in terms of personality is what makes this show great. I hope Bananas comes back soon because we DESPERATELY need the legend back.

I hope the Road Rules reboot is successful because I'm tired of how the show has become full of non-cast members. 

Another thing about John that is so irritating is that throughout the years he would do non-stop self-promotion but whenever a new star arose and tried to come for the crown, he goes out of his way to discredit them. Devin becomes the first dude from AYTO? to make a final, John says he accomplished nothing the whole season. Cory, Hunter and Nelson have the initiative to join forces and form TYB, John says it stands for Thank You Bananas, Paulie wins loads of tribunals on WOTW, John calls him a parasyte and says Paulie just wants to be him. I could go on and on. The more frustrating part is his fans don't see through that manipulation and so that's why Amanda gets so much hate, that's why Devin was so loathed, that's why Paulie has so much hate. What he did was build up this fanbase of idiots that think the show needs him and anyone with a brain that knows its better to target John will get trashed on by his fanbase. Go on Reddit, people constantly complain about Paulie being super arrogant when that's exactly what John is but he somehow he gets a free pass. The only people John ever spoke positively of where the people in his camp. Think of that moment in the reunion where he calls Josh one of the most loyal people he knows and says the oppossite for Paulie to try and put him in a bad light even though he's describing himself. Cara's response was great. "It takes one to know one."

Its a positive to not have him on another season because there are other interesting characters this show can be built around. And someone like CT being on is okay cuz that's another 1 with a huge fanbase but he understands that its the time of the new generation and he'll give praises to people where its due.

Awwww no Johnny ? Yay !!!! Now can Papa CT retire 

Who wants to see ******* pranks lmaooooooooo I watch this show for drama and hookups nothing else......this show has turned into such a shit show I can't even fake being a fan of this snoozefest. 

The only reason I got into this show is because I was flipping through channels and saw Aneesa elbow that girl in the face....I didn't start watching this show for competitions

The only reason I got into this show is because I was flipping through channels and saw Aneesa elbow that girl in the face....I didn't start watching this show for competitions

I started watching because I felt bad for how Cara Maria was being treated during Cutthroat reruns. Omg we need to all say why we started watching! Keep it going!

 

The only reason I got into this show is because I was flipping through channels and saw Aneesa elbow that girl in the face....I didn't start watching this show for competitions

I started watching because I felt bad for how Cara Maria was being treated during Cutthroat reruns. Omg we need to all say why we started watching! Keep it going!

I made the decision to be a challenge fan when I saw the Dirty 30 trailer lol

Lol a lot of you sound hypocritical. You complain about the lack of fun, pranks, and partying on the show yet ya'll complain about "tOxIc MaScUlInItY". Ya'll are goofy.

We need personalities of ALL types on this show. Diversity is what makes this show so entertaining to watch, and I'm not talking about the color of your skin. Diversity in terms of personality is what makes this show great. I hope Bananas comes back soon because we DESPERATELY need the legend back.

100%.The same people who complain about the current boring cast of Double Agents complain about the toxic atmosphere during Bananas ' time on the show.There's no toxicity in this season of the show, and what do we get?The most boring season in the history of the show.The show has become boring because they bring in mature uninteresting people who are afraid to say the extra word, and who need to voluntarily go to ellimination

 

Sorry for not knowing all the behind the scenes spoilers. I retract my statement of his light energy.

95% of the stuff I wrote were aired in episodes, reunion and shit they should have shown lol

a lot of these people just live with Nostalgia goggles on it's alright pink you can't reason with that just let it be 

Who wants to see ******* pranks lmaooooooooo I watch this show for drama and hookups nothing else......this show has turned into such a shit show I can't even fake being a fan of this snoozefest. 

The fact that anyone is clamoring for more pranks of all things is baffling to me lol

 

Who wants to see ******* pranks lmaooooooooo I watch this show for drama and hookups nothing else......this show has turned into such a shit show I can't even fake being a fan of this snoozefest. 

The fact that anyone is clamoring for more pranks of all things is baffling to me lol

We all enjoy the show for different reasons. I love that is used to be like a fun adult summer camp. Being on the show used to be like a dream as a teenager. I enjoyed watching them have fun, party, mixed with good ole messy drama. I never cared about the missions. Now they don't have fun and the little drama they have is so awful and embarrassing. Getting paid to party with friends is why they all used to show up. Now they show up for social media clout and it's turned tragic.

 

Lol a lot of you sound hypocritical. You complain about the lack of fun, pranks, and partying on the show yet ya'll complain about "tOxIc MaScUlInItY". Ya'll are goofy.

We need personalities of ALL types on this show. Diversity is what makes this show so entertaining to watch, and I'm not talking about the color of your skin. Diversity in terms of personality is what makes this show great. I hope Bananas comes back soon because we DESPERATELY need the legend back.

100%.The same people who complain about the current boring cast of Double Agents complain about the toxic atmosphere during Bananas ' time on the show.There's no toxicity in this season of the show, and what do we get?The most boring season in the history of the show.The show has become boring because they bring in mature uninteresting people who are afraid to say the extra word, and who need to voluntarily go to ellimination

There still can be drama without having toxic masculinity. We have had plenty of that for years.

 

 

Sorry for not knowing all the behind the scenes spoilers. I retract my statement of his light energy.

95% of the stuff I wrote were aired in episodes, reunion and shit they should have shown lol

a lot of these people just live with Nostalgia goggles on it's alright pink you can't reason with that just let it be 

You're right! Everything that is old is perfect for them lol 

 

I don't think the intent with Cheyenne was racist, I think it was just a jab that she was forgettable. It's a joke with my friends to call someone the wrong name if they are being boring. Maybe it's because all three Chantel's I knew were white so I didn't see it as him using a stereotypical name. 

My buddy's wife's name is Chantel and she's white.  That's what they're stating is racist?  lmao

They was also calling her Simone when she doesn't look nor act like Simone at all.  

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