The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Wes shouldve chosen Dee to be in the tribunal and then thrown in Jordan and John against Nelson and Fessy. He blew it 

woah now that you put it that way. Perfect opportunity to seal his win. Vote Bananas vs Fessy and Jordan vs Nelson. Bam, bam!

If that was the case that wouldn't have been the elimination set up in my opinion. They would have given something where size was disadvantage lol

Production always have an idea of who the tribunal is going to throw in and let's be real they gave Jordan something he has no shot in because he was the biggest threat on the final for their golden grandpa boy.

Think abut Jordan's two elimination losses they clearly screwed him both times 

 

Next weeks a double then Wes is next to go. That's 10 episodes already.With the number of people left do you think we will get 1 person a week going home or 2 going forward..

If there is no more TBC it should be like this

9. Big T/Jenna/Kailah

10. Wes

11. Mattie

12. Swaggy 

13. Nany

14. pretty sure Josh/ANeesa are a double

I can't remember if Dee and Nelson are a double or separated.

Then Rogan before the final or w.e

Ok sounds about right cause we should have about 16 episodes like WOW2 then reunion. 

 

 

 

Wes shouldve chosen Dee to be in the tribunal and then thrown in Jordan and John against Nelson and Fessy. He blew it 

woah now that you put it that way. Perfect opportunity to seal his win. Vote Bananas vs Fessy and Jordan vs Nelson. Bam, bam!

If that was the case that wouldn't have been the elimination set up in my opinion. They would have given something where size was disadvantage lol

Production always have an idea of who the tribunal is going to throw in and let's be real they gave Jordan something he has no shot in because he was the biggest threat on the final for their golden grandpa boy.

Think abut Jordan's two elimination losses they clearly screwed him both times 

No. He screwed himself in the wreaking wall one lol 

https://twitter.com/DerrickMTV/status/**********982858752?s=19

Derrick is really on twitter counting the island face offs, him being a mercenary and dirty 30 purge as eliminations wins just to take credit away from Nelson ***...   

this is so pathetic... he didn't have to do this. You don't see Darrell and Landon doing extra to try to cancel out Jordan. Just acknowledge that the new regulars are on every **** season and this is a new era/game.you don't see Mariah Carey getting pressed that Lil Nas X broke her record...she's legendary already. 

I still can't get over Josh throwing that drink 

One of the funniest things I've seen all year 

Here is a link for the confessional count.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/gnnrvo/total_madness_episode_8_confessional_count/

Someone pointed out that we're  8 episodes in & KC has only 1 more confessional than Asaf, who was out 7 weeks ago. ****

Here is a link for the confessional count.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/gnnrvo/total_madness_episode_8_confessional_count/

I'm surprised they didn't have KC tell the challenge rules again after 10 minutes into the challenge

 

https://twitter.com/DerrickMTV/status/**********982858752?s=19

Derrick is really on twitter counting the island face offs, him being a mercenary and dirty 30 purge as eliminations wins just to take credit away from Nelson ***...   

this is so pathetic... he didn't have to do this. You don't see Darrell and Landon doing extra to try to cancel out Jordan. Just acknowledge that the new regulars are on every **** season and this is a new era/game.you don't see Mariah Carey getting pressed that Lil Nas X broke her record...she's legendary already. 

He is always going to be pressed about Nelson since dirty 30. Always shading him and now trying to steal his thunder let people talk about his stats instead of posting an inaccurate lost of his "wins".

I remember him being pressed for a while that Shane was Nelson partner on Final Reckoning over him...

I dunno if this happened to ne one else but my dvr recorded an episiode of Challenge: Champs Vs Stars as a new episode of Total Madness. (Perhaps to gauge audience interest?). With travel restrictions being the way they are, MTV may want to utilize another season of C vs S (which is based in LA) to fill the gap... 

I dunno if this happened to ne one else but my dvr recorded an episiode of Challenge: Champs Vs Stars as a new episode of Total Madness. (Perhaps to gauge audience interest?). With travel restrictions being the way they are, MTV may want to utilize another season of C vs S (which is based in LA) to fill the gap... 

They are airing champs vs stars on cbs sports or something like that

 

https://twitter.com/DerrickMTV/status/**********982858752?s=19

Derrick is really on twitter counting the island face offs, him being a mercenary and dirty 30 purge as eliminations wins just to take credit away from Nelson ***...   

this is so pathetic... he didn't have to do this. You don't see Darrell and Landon doing extra to try to cancel out Jordan. Just acknowledge that the new regulars are on every **** season and this is a new era/game.you don't see Mariah Carey getting pressed that Lil Nas X broke her record...she's legendary already. 

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Derrick has been pressed ever since nelson MUSHED him and disrespected his manlihood. hes been taking slick shots at him ever since funny thing is nelson doesnt even notice or care

That's a good point they could totally film a Champs Vs. Stars as soon as California re-opens, they may not be able to get everyone they want as far as stars go but it'll be something

 

Here is a link for the confessional count.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/gnnrvo/total_madness_episode_8_confessional_count/

I'm surprised they didn't have KC tell the challenge rules again after 10 minutes into the challenge

Lol  guys she is so good at explaining the rules 

yeah a champs vs stars season would be cool until they can film a full season again. perfect time to donate to charity plus a lot of celebrities are pressed for a check so I think they could get a good cast

Wes really screwed up losing to John.  He was is playing a great game.  He is allied with his biggest enemy, and just eliminated two people against him.  Kinda surprising to see John let two allies or potential allies get taken off the board like that.

Bear seemed like he had given up once his names was called.  I get it was a blindside, but show some fight.

http://twitter.com/johnnybananas/status/1263266509872230400

This is literally the most homophobic thing I've seen and it's returned to my eyes after just forgetting about it last week.

EDIT -- what is with this site and not letting me post this godforsaken tweet?

The Holy Trinity seem to have the numbers at the moment so it will be interesting to see how they managed to get 4 girls who are either in the Holy trinity or working with them in the eliminations.

if Dee and Bayleigh are in the tribunal, they don't get a house vote... how did Melissa and Jenny not get voted in? ****

https://twitter.com/DerrickMTV/status/**********982858752?s=19

Derrick is really on twitter counting the island face offs, him being a mercenary and dirty 30 purge as eliminations wins just to take credit away from Nelson ***...   

Is it really 9? Are they counting that draw against Darrell as a win lol

 

 

 

 

 

Even with this win John still aint the GOAT, Landon would make him his ***** 

Jordan was the only elite guy on this cast and production likely made sure he went in an elimination he couldn't come out of. John beating a cast where the top guys besides Jordan are Fessy(rookie), Wes(may have thrown elimination), Nelson & Rogan isn't all that impressive. He's lucky Theo didn't get cleared, Zach took the season off, Turbo & Paulie are liabilities, Joss is too boring to be cast and production doesn't want Darrell back

I love how you have Fessy there but not Swaggy, who's done more as a competitor so far. 

Swaggy's done well in dailies but Fessy has more potential overall, nobody wants to go in elimination against him and he has ran very well too, not to common for a big guy like him. Plus he beats ******* Jordan, who never loses, and Swaggy lost to Cory, who always loses

Cory always loses when he's made 3/7 finals and has a good elimination record huh? Plus Fessy only won in Pole Wrestle.. Swaggy is more of a threat in dailies and possibly in a final, also he's not a little guy so he can be decent in an elimination depending on the game. Open your eyes. 

"Good elimination record" lol he was gifted 2 wins(he lost to Zach/Amanda), and has beaten Derrick H, Theo who didn't participate and Shane in a physical challenge. And he's lost to Nate/Christina, Matt Rife and Nelson(in a crapshoot challenge to be fair). Not exactly an impressive resume, he's made finals with his social skills and decent daily abilities but overall he's pretty trash

Cory's elimination record after this season will be 6-3, enough said. 2/3 of those elimination losses, he lost to Nelson who on paper, is better than him, and Hunter in an elimination where you had to bash through walls using your lower body, and Cory has a ****** up knee so that elimination wasn't particularly in his favor, however he STILL almost won. Cory holds the record for the most consecutive daily challenge wins, yet he's not good? Also has been to 3 finals, one which was on his rookie season which he possibly would've won if he and Mitch didn't have to carry extra weight because they are male, his second final loss, was a final where it was rigged for CT from the start because we all know Nelson won, and then this final, it was rigged yet again for Bananas so your point is very much INVALID, so like I said Swaggy losing to him isn't a bad thing, and also like I said Swaggy has more potential to win than Swaggy due to him being able to win dailies and he has a good build for a final, let's not let our personal hatred  take us away from the truth. 

The Holy Trinity seem to have the numbers at the moment so it will be interesting to see how they managed to get 4 girls who are either in the Holy trinity or working with them in the eliminations.

if Dee and Bayleigh are in the tribunal, they don't get a house vote... how did Melissa and Jenny not get voted in? ****

Because they don't have any men on their side..

 

The Holy Trinity seem to have the numbers at the moment so it will be interesting to see how they managed to get 4 girls who are either in the Holy trinity or working with them in the eliminations.

if Dee and Bayleigh are in the tribunal, they don't get a house vote... how did Melissa and Jenny not get voted in? ****

Because they don't have any men on their side..

Cory said on the show last night that he is close with the Holy Trinity. Bananas is also close with them and possibly Josh is as well (isn't he good friends with Nany??). I would assume they would have the votes but something must happen for them to have 2 of them + 2 allies sent into elimination.

 

 

The Holy Trinity seem to have the numbers at the moment so it will be interesting to see how they managed to get 4 girls who are either in the Holy trinity or working with them in the eliminations.

if Dee and Bayleigh are in the tribunal, they don't get a house vote... how did Melissa and Jenny not get voted in? ****

Because they don't have any men on their side..

Cory said on the show last night that he is close with the Holy Trinity. Bananas is also close with them and possibly Josh is as well (isn't he good friends with Nany??). I would assume they would have the votes but something must happen for them to have 2 of them + 2 allies sent into elimination.

i don't think we'll be able to piece it together until we know who the members of the tribunal are next episode.

That was the first time I've somewhat enjoyed Kyle like legit ever and I think it was only because it allowed Melissa some screen time. I loved her mama bear protectiveness over him and also screaming at Nelson to go back on Dr. Phil ****.

That was the first time I've somewhat enjoyed Kyle like legit ever and I think it was only because it allowed Melissa some screen time. I loved her mama bear protectiveness over him and also screaming at Nelson to go back on Dr. Phil ****.

same the one time im finally starting to like kyle it seems like everyone's turning on him and saying he isn't needed for the show anymore. i see where they're coming from though, if he stopped being cast i probably wouldn't even notice

That was the first time I've somewhat enjoyed Kyle like legit ever and I think it was only because it allowed Melissa some screen time. I loved her mama bear protectiveness over him and also screaming at Nelson to go back on Dr. Phil ****.

same

 

 

 

 

 

Even with this win John still aint the GOAT, Landon would make him his ***** 

Jordan was the only elite guy on this cast and production likely made sure he went in an elimination he couldn't come out of. John beating a cast where the top guys besides Jordan are Fessy(rookie), Wes(may have thrown elimination), Nelson & Rogan isn't all that impressive. He's lucky Theo didn't get cleared, Zach took the season off, Turbo & Paulie are liabilities, Joss is too boring to be cast and production doesn't want Darrell back

I love how you have Fessy there but not Swaggy, who's done more as a competitor so far. 

Swaggy's done well in dailies but Fessy has more potential overall, nobody wants to go in elimination against him and he has ran very well too, not to common for a big guy like him. Plus he beats ******* Jordan, who never loses, and Swaggy lost to Cory, who always loses

Cory always loses when he's made 3/7 finals and has a good elimination record huh? Plus Fessy only won in Pole Wrestle.. Swaggy is more of a threat in dailies and possibly in a final, also he's not a little guy so he can be decent in an elimination depending on the game. Open your eyes. 

"Good elimination record" lol he was gifted 2 wins(he lost to Zach/Amanda), and has beaten Derrick H, Theo who didn't participate and Shane in a physical challenge. And he's lost to Nate/Christina, Matt Rife and Nelson(in a crapshoot challenge to be fair). Not exactly an impressive resume, he's made finals with his social skills and decent daily abilities but overall he's pretty trash

 

Hes nowhere near trash but keep bein jealous ig

 

https://twitter.com/DerrickMTV/status/**********982858752?s=19

Derrick is really on twitter counting the island face offs, him being a mercenary and dirty 30 purge as eliminations wins just to take credit away from Nelson ***...   

Is it really 9? Are they counting that draw against Darrell as a win lol

Rivals 3: Johnny & Jess

Invasion: Anthony, Dario, Cory/Shane

XXX: Hunter

Vendettas: Cory

FR:  Cara/Marie, Brad/Kyle

TM: Bear makes 9

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Even with this win John still aint the GOAT, Landon would make him his ***** 

Jordan was the only elite guy on this cast and production likely made sure he went in an elimination he couldn't come out of. John beating a cast where the top guys besides Jordan are Fessy(rookie), Wes(may have thrown elimination), Nelson & Rogan isn't all that impressive. He's lucky Theo didn't get cleared, Zach took the season off, Turbo & Paulie are liabilities, Joss is too boring to be cast and production doesn't want Darrell back

I love how you have Fessy there but not Swaggy, who's done more as a competitor so far. 

Swaggy's done well in dailies but Fessy has more potential overall, nobody wants to go in elimination against him and he has ran very well too, not to common for a big guy like him. Plus he beats ******* Jordan, who never loses, and Swaggy lost to Cory, who always loses

Cory always loses when he's made 3/7 finals and has a good elimination record huh? Plus Fessy only won in Pole Wrestle.. Swaggy is more of a threat in dailies and possibly in a final, also he's not a little guy so he can be decent in an elimination depending on the game. Open your eyes. 

"Good elimination record" lol he was gifted 2 wins(he lost to Zach/Amanda), and has beaten Derrick H, Theo who didn't participate and Shane in a physical challenge. And he's lost to Nate/Christina, Matt Rife and Nelson(in a crapshoot challenge to be fair). Not exactly an impressive resume, he's made finals with his social skills and decent daily abilities but overall he's pretty trash

Cory's elimination record after this season will be 6-3, enough said. 2/3 of those elimination losses, he lost to Nelson who on paper, is better than him, and Hunter in an elimination where you had to bash through walls using your lower body, and Cory has a ****** up knee so that elimination wasn't particularly in his favor, however he STILL almost won. Cory holds the record for the most consecutive daily challenge wins, yet he's not good? Also has been to 3 finals, one which was on his rookie season which he possibly would've won if he and Mitch didn't have to carry extra weight because they are male, his second final loss, was a final where it was rigged for CT from the start because we all know Nelson won, and then this final, it was rigged yet again for Bananas so your point is very much INVALID, so like I said Swaggy losing to him isn't a bad thing, and also like I said Swaggy has more potential to win than Swaggy due to him being able to win dailies and he has a good build for a final, let's not let our personal hatred  take us away from the truth. 

**** that was a good case. Only thing I'll interject on was that 2 of his wins, as mentioned before I think, were rigged. Him  & devin vs zach/amanda & jozea/davonne was clearly in their favor to bring them into the house to have TYB vs Bananas. But cory is an ok competitor. He's like a kyle but with a way better political game.

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