The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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I just watched the clip of Wes/Josh in the tribunal l, nah that was top tier disrespect I would have had to leap across the table. Wes ugly *** read him for filth 

Josh kept asking for it by trying to push this false narrative that they had some kind of rivalry/beef lol. I don't know if this was Josh way of trying to push for a storyline but he ended up looking stupid...like always. 

Bayleigh & Melissa flopped in the final.  They deserve props for getting there, but they flopped.  Just like CT, Zach, Georgia, Mattie, etc.  

Flopping means you gassed out or finished last/didn't win and that wasn't the situation with those girls. Both couldn't medically continue...Make it make sense. Smile

 

Rogan has been hilarious on twitter last night & today

Saw on his story he got drunk, blacked out and forgot the entire episode. Literally woke up to his house/apartment trashed, everyone hating him online and he doesn't know why ****

iconic ****

Rogan is a perfect villain because he doesn't take it the hate to heart 

makes him way more likable than someone like Cara who is constantly online trying to defend herself. He just said that it wasn't personal, didn't have to do with Dee, just wanted to go against someone half his size in a physical elimination cause it would be easy to get to a final." i like the honesty lol

 

 

 

We got a gay love triangle I'm not complaining 

when will we get a guy one? Not that I'm into that devil worshiping or anything but I'm sure someone would love to see it 

Well they'd need one bi/gay guy to start with, have we ever gotten three?

Cutthroat, battle of the seasons, the duel 2, rivals 2

It's a shame our only male LGBTQ rep is Josh.

Rogan is a perfect villain because he doesn't take it the hate to heart 

I agree his new Instagram post is peak disrespect to angry fans and he knows it. Hating someone like Rogan is a waste of time.Also unpopular opinion Jay did ask for it. He had 3 friends in tribunal who he could have asked for Bear or someone else but  they allsaid Jay wanted Rogan. Why would Rogan take it easy on him.

i hope jay returns because he really left a good impression on his rookie season that most rookies don't seem to ever show anymore.

i'm lowkey glad he's gone though because every time i see him i think of that twitter video...

Jay would do a lot better on a team season, when it's individual everyone's gonna want to go against him in elimination

I feel like they ended up choosing Jay over Billy (as well as Jenn) bc they knew it would create an easy storyline that fit the theme: everyone trying to use them to win a skull bc they're the weakest. 

i guess it worked in Jay's favor tho >>

Jay has stuff he needs to work on. I feel like if he comes back, he will continue to be the scapegoat unless he wins a daily to secure his saftey. Without any real numbers, he's getting targeted. A great social game can do wonders but people will still see him as ONE OF the weakest links to go against. 

Also, Jay is a little snappy lol..so I don't see him sliding by anytime soon.

Jay has stuff he needs to work on. I feel like if he comes back, he will continue to be the scapegoat unless he wins a daily to secure his saftey. Without any real numbers, he's getting targeted. A great social game can do wonders but people will still see him as ONE OF the weakest links to go against. 

Also, Jay is a little snappy lol..so I don't see him sliding by anytime soon.

I think he'll fare better in future seasons. He's a rookie so he was an easy vote like Brandon was on Cutthroat. Next season they'll be a new rookie to pick on. 

I think he'll get targeted early in eliminations next season as well. Maybe not the first because that always goes to the two rookies but even after the season he doesn't seem to have anyone close that'll go to bat for him but maybe Aneesa ( who rarely does back to backs ) and Bayleigh/Swaggy/Fessy 

Depending on whose on the cast I don't see anything changing regarding politics. Both Dee & Jay are seeing early eliminations next season especially Dee with her very shitty obviously fake social game 

Dee is gonna get the Ashley treatment next season tbh. 

Jay has stuff he needs to work on. I feel like if he comes back, he will continue to be the scapegoat unless he wins a daily to secure his saftey. Without any real numbers, he's getting targeted. A great social game can do wonders but people will still see him as ONE OF the weakest links to go against. 

Also, Jay is a little snappy lol..so I don't see him sliding by anytime soon.

Yeah he is snappy and unfortunately he will always be a target cause he is smaller than most of the guys. But obviously they seem to love him so he will definitely get called back.

Dee is gonna get the Ashley treatment next season tbh. 

Dee needs to take a break tbh

Jay's screwed simply for his connection to Bananas, who will want him out early every season

I like how everyone's ****** about it except Jay, who went on insta live with Rogan. He just dropped by to troll Dee.

kyle is such a ******* follower man even worse than leroy

 

We got a gay love triangle I'm not complaining 

when will we get a guy one? Not that I'm into that devil worshiping or anything but I'm sure someone would love to see it 

Something tells me theres just no interest in a gay storyline just in general on this show these days.

They love them some lesbians though. I just hope Kaycee doesn't turn into Nicole Z... but I doubt that.

Jenna's episode next week <3

Please tell me it came down to Tori and Jordan's teams or something, Jordan throws the mission in order for Tori to be in the tribunal, Jenna gets voted in somehow and Tori volunteers and goes home looking stupid..... wishful thinking.

Jenna's episode next week <3

Next week is a tbc episode

Swaggy said he got the call 5 days before departure. But yet he's kicking ***. Some of these vets been training for months and they suck. ☕️☕️

Please tell me it came down to Tori and Jordan's teams or something, Jordan throws the mission in order for Tori to be in the tribunal, Jenna gets voted in somehow and Tori volunteers and goes home looking stupid..... wishful thinking.

Would love to see It, especially Jordan looking stupid after hyping Tori up.

Swaggy said he got the call 5 days before departure. But yet he's kicking ***. Some of these vets been training for months and they suck. ☕️☕️

@ Aneesa

Interesting how they show Ashley spitting on Bear but not Jordan throwing OJ on Wes face

 

Swaggy said he got the call 5 days before departure. But yet he's kicking ***. Some of these vets been training for months and they suck. ☕️☕️

@ Aneesa

Aneesa has been apart of the tribunal twice now so that comment definitely doesn't apply to her unless he's talking about overall 

Swaggy said he got the call 5 days before departure. But yet he's kicking ***. Some of these vets been training for months and they suck. ☕️☕️

He was moved 5 days before departure from alternate to the final cast again. He probably was training before that like everyone else since at some point before becoming an alternate he was on the cast.  Alternates and cast members get tested 3-4 weeks before departure. So they know ahead usually they also train because things tend to change especially with rookies during those weeks and days before departure. No one gets an availability call, testing and then a final call in 5 days before leaving. For this season I remember they kept rotating Jay, Billy from ex on the beach and Swaggy spot as cast member/Alternate throughout the month leading to departure.

Usually all cast members and alternates knows a month before  leaving and they make sure tell some alternates that thing can change so to be prepare. For example Jenna was also an alternate for Dirty 30 she was training since getting the availability call she didnt got a final call moving her from alternate to the cast until departure day despite being an alternate and getting the call on the same day as departure day she was ready.

Im just so thankful we didnt get Billys annoying crying ***

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