I'm not sure.... I have a few days off and i finished testing for school so now i have some free time. When class starts idk how that will work cuz i dont want Vevmo to distract me from my studies.
I am the only one that doesnt care about old shoolers at this point? Unless its coral, one of the mean girls,Landon, Beth Darrell and Alton. But almost all of th wouldnt do it.Idc about seeing Ruthie, Syrus, Mark , any other random old schooler that ppl mentioned here.
The people I'm talking about are like Cara/Susie, Rachel/Veronica, Abe, Landon, Beth, Coral, etc
Ruthie/Mark/Syrus and other boring vets shouldn't even be considered.
I really hope it's an individual thing. No specific theme gives us a bigger casting pool and they can throw in random people like Toya.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.
Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?
The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
Where have you been ? I've been needing your lovin' lol
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
But you're missing the point. Casual viewers, which make up a majority of the ratings, don't know what Real World Hollywood is let alone Road Rules and all the other old schoolers.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
But you're missing the point. Casual viewers, which make up a majority of the rating, don't know what Real World Hollywood is let alone Road Rules and all the other old schoolers.
Which is why YouTube, Wikipedia & sites like this exists. No excuses for them whatsoever, they're on Twitter stanning for CT & lame *** celebrities all day but can't take the time to do any research on this show?
MTV loves it though; it's no surprise they're getting destroyed by every other network.
But it has nothing to do with bringing the entire old school cast, we're not asking for that and It won't happen. I say bring someone randomly like Alton and Trishelle on Seasons II, Abe on Bloodlines, Mark on Exes, I'm not a fan of all of them, but is nice to see the dynamic they have with the newest cast mates that are mostly thristy and cheap drama makers.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
But you're missing the point. Casual viewers, which make up a majority of the ratings, don't know what Real World Hollywood is let alone Road Rules and all the other old schoolers.
They also couldn't follow seasons when it clearly stated where everyone came from minus Camila , so that's completely moot tbh. There is an intro for a reason and every season gets a trailer for a reason , it's not that hard to do a 30 sec into clip of someone from a older season because that season from which they came isn't going to effect the game that has yet to play out.
Free Agents 2..... eh. I wouldn't mind because I think it'll have that Exes 2 affect and be wayyyyy better than the first (granted I liked Exes 1 a lot) lol
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
Old Schools have the ability to bring back a demographic that actually still watches TV live...their current target audience doesn't
And, yeah, I'm not talking about MJ or anything but there's a reason Aneesa is still on the show. Wes, Bananas, CT, Diem, etc as well. Young viewers can still watch for people like Jenna that aren't the least bit entertaining but because they're 16 they like her. Girls: Coral, Veronica, Beth, Katie, Susie, Cara Z, Rachel B, Evelyn, Melinda, Johanna, Ruthie & even Tina could add something. Guys: Darrell, Landon, Mark, Alton, Abram, CT, Danny J, Brad and even Frank R could add something. Even Trashelle who I can't stand adds more than most of the people.
Would ratings be great--absolutely not but they'd improve slightly because, again, you're dealing with people that actually watch TV. If MTV promoted it correctly, always a problem, you'd absolutely get people to tune in to see what those people are up to now and watch them compete with young. The biggest mistake was not doing a New-Old have Seasons because even if you only get a handful of veterans out of it that's a huge win.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
Old Schools have the ability to bring back a demographic that actually still watches TV live...their current target audience doesn't
And, yeah, I'm not talking about MJ or anything but there's a reason Aneesa is still on the show. Wes, Bananas, CT, Diem, etc as well. Young viewers can still watch for people like Jenna that aren't the least bit entertaining but because they're 16 they like her. Girls: Coral, Veronica, Beth, Katie, Susie, Cara Z, Rachel B, Evelyn, Melinda, Johanna, Ruthie & even Tina could add something. Guys: Darrell, Landon, Mark, Alton, Abram, CT, Danny J, Brad and even Frank R could add something. Even Trashelle who I can't stand adds more than most of the people.
Would ratings be great--absolutely not but they'd improve slightly because, again, you're dealing with people that actually watch TV. If MTV promoted it correctly, always a problem, you'd absolutely get people to tune in to see what those people are up to now and watch them compete with young. The biggest mistake was not doing a New-Old have Seasons because even if you only get a handful of veterans out of it that's a huge win.
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
But we all know since they prob cant get Bananas on Battle of the Seasons we wont get it..
Right? We aren't about to get a Key West team; so they either going to pull some real strings to get him on, or they just eliminate him from the cast. Preferbly the latter.
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
that's why I said ratings will be trash regardless so at this point, what do they have to lose? Themes don't work anymore, nobody cares about AYTO people on this show & if they advertise it right (which they won't do sadly), older fans would be brought back slowly but surely.
I already know they're high on various drugs so all of this is pretty much a moot point either way...I just know the newer RWers better be getting their time on Challenge 29 (Sydney - Vegas 3 excluding the ones who show up over and over again).
Graphik wrote:People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
Old Schools have the ability to bring back a demographic that actually still watches TV live...their current target audience doesn'tAnd, yeah, I'm not talking about MJ or anything but there's a reason Aneesa is still on the show. Wes, Bananas, CT, Diem, etc as well. Young viewers can still watch for people like Jenna that aren't the least bit entertaining but because they're 16 they like her. Girls: Coral, Veronica, Beth, Katie, Susie, Cara Z, Rachel B, Evelyn, Melinda, Johanna, Ruthie & even Tina could add something. Guys: Darrell, Landon, Mark, Alton, Abram, CT, Danny J, Brad and even Frank R could add something. Even Trashelle who I can't stand adds more than most of the people.Would ratings be great--absolutely not but they'd improve slightly because, again, you're dealing with people that actually watch TV. If MTV promoted it correctly, always a problem, you'd absolutely get people to tune in to see what those people are up to now and watch them compete with young. The biggest mistake was not doing a New-Old have Seasons because even if you only get a handful of veterans out of it that's a huge win.
The majority of those people wouldnt come back.
I had the chance to talked to Landon and no way in hell he would come back at this point. Most of them have moved on and have other stuff to deal with right now than go on a reality show to get wasted for 1-7 weeks.
But we all know since they prob cant get Bananas on Battle of the Seasons we wont get it..
Right? We aren't about to get a Key West team; so they either going to pull some real strings to get him on, or they just eliminate him from the cast. Preferbly the latter.
They wpuld do a real world miami to make sure he has a hibryd team for seasons hahaha
Graphik wrote:People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
Old Schools have the ability to bring back a demographic that actually still watches TV live...their current target audience doesn'tAnd, yeah, I'm not talking about MJ or anything but there's a reason Aneesa is still on the show. Wes, Bananas, CT, Diem, etc as well. Young viewers can still watch for people like Jenna that aren't the least bit entertaining but because they're 16 they like her. Girls: Coral, Veronica, Beth, Katie, Susie, Cara Z, Rachel B, Evelyn, Melinda, Johanna, Ruthie & even Tina could add something. Guys: Darrell, Landon, Mark, Alton, Abram, CT, Danny J, Brad and even Frank R could add something. Even Trashelle who I can't stand adds more than most of the people.Would ratings be great--absolutely not but they'd improve slightly because, again, you're dealing with people that actually watch TV. If MTV promoted it correctly, always a problem, you'd absolutely get people to tune in to see what those people are up to now and watch them compete with young. The biggest mistake was not doing a New-Old have Seasons because even if you only get a handful of veterans out of it that's a huge win.
The majority of those people wouldnt come back.I had the chance to talked to Landon and no way in hell he would come back at this point. Most of them have moved on and have other stuff to deal with right now than go on a reality show to get wasted for 1-7 weeks.
You're right--especially now. 3/4 years ago the window may have been open but some of them would.
Landon being down is the most disappointing thing of all
But we all know since they prob cant get Bananas on Battle of the Seasons we wont get it..
I kind of want Free Agents so I can see Jenna pull a Laurel and get a win on her fourth challenge
But Free Agents has little drama because of the format so...team challenge pls!
I'm not sure.... I have a few days off and i finished testing for school so now i have some free time. When class starts idk how that will work cuz i dont want Vevmo to distract me from my studies.
Team Key West is my dream.
free agents PLEASE
Just give me the kill card on a season tbh.
Just give me the kill card on the next theme they choose
Duel III*******.
The people I'm talking about are like Cara/Susie, Rachel/Veronica, Abe, Landon, Beth, Coral, etc
Ruthie/Mark/Syrus and other boring vets shouldn't even be considered.
I really hope it's an individual thing. No specific theme gives us a bigger casting pool and they can throw in random people like Toya.
They can't just "throw in Toya", she has to not decline lol
I miss Jordan :(
Hopefully he will do another one day. But I doubt it
People actually watched MTV back then. Lol @ 75% of viewers don't care about old-schoolers...what viewers though? Most people checked out long ago b/c if the older crowd not being on.
Hollywood was getting 2 million+ viewers, how many did AYTO 2 & 3 get again?
The ratings will be trash regardless so they can cut this whole demographic/theme bullshit they use to justify their lazy, piss-poor casting & ideas.
I do know Nia better be on it if she actually wants to do it. LaToya/Marie/Jason/SylVioletta/CeeJai/CJ etc.
Where have you been ? I've been needing your lovin' lol
But you're missing the point. Casual viewers, which make up a majority of the ratings, don't know what Real World Hollywood is let alone Road Rules and all the other old schoolers.
Which is why YouTube, Wikipedia & sites like this exists. No excuses for them whatsoever, they're on Twitter stanning for CT & lame *** celebrities all day but can't take the time to do any research on this show?
MTV loves it though; it's no surprise they're getting destroyed by every other network.
But it has nothing to do with bringing the entire old school cast, we're not asking for that and It won't happen. I say bring someone randomly like Alton and Trishelle on Seasons II, Abe on Bloodlines, Mark on Exes, I'm not a fan of all of them, but is nice to see the dynamic they have with the newest cast mates that are mostly thristy and cheap drama makers.
They also couldn't follow seasons when it clearly stated where everyone came from minus Camila , so that's completely moot tbh. There is an intro for a reason and every season gets a trailer for a reason , it's not that hard to do a 30 sec into clip of someone from a older season because that season from which they came isn't going to effect the game that has yet to play out.
Battle of the Seasons 2/3 would be ideal.
Free Agents 2..... eh. I wouldn't mind because I think it'll have that Exes 2 affect and be wayyyyy better than the first (granted I liked Exes 1 a lot) lol
The reasons why ppl are not watching doesnt have to do with old schoolers at all. MTV ratings as a whole have gone down even shows that have actors way more popular than most of the old school combine (example Victoria Justice show). Ratings still would be as low with old schoolers.
Old Schools have the ability to bring back a demographic that actually still watches TV live...their current target audience doesn't
And, yeah, I'm not talking about MJ or anything but there's a reason Aneesa is still on the show. Wes, Bananas, CT, Diem, etc as well. Young viewers can still watch for people like Jenna that aren't the least bit entertaining but because they're 16 they like her. Girls: Coral, Veronica, Beth, Katie, Susie, Cara Z, Rachel B, Evelyn, Melinda, Johanna, Ruthie & even Tina could add something. Guys: Darrell, Landon, Mark, Alton, Abram, CT, Danny J, Brad and even Frank R could add something. Even Trashelle who I can't stand adds more than most of the people.
Would ratings be great--absolutely not but they'd improve slightly because, again, you're dealing with people that actually watch TV. If MTV promoted it correctly, always a problem, you'd absolutely get people to tune in to see what those people are up to now and watch them compete with young. The biggest mistake was not doing a New-Old have Seasons because even if you only get a handful of veterans out of it that's a huge win.
Old Schools have the ability to bring back a demographic that actually still watches TV live...their current target audience doesn't
And, yeah, I'm not talking about MJ or anything but there's a reason Aneesa is still on the show. Wes, Bananas, CT, Diem, etc as well. Young viewers can still watch for people like Jenna that aren't the least bit entertaining but because they're 16 they like her. Girls: Coral, Veronica, Beth, Katie, Susie, Cara Z, Rachel B, Evelyn, Melinda, Johanna, Ruthie & even Tina could add something. Guys: Darrell, Landon, Mark, Alton, Abram, CT, Danny J, Brad and even Frank R could add something. Even Trashelle who I can't stand adds more than most of the people.
Would ratings be great--absolutely not but they'd improve slightly because, again, you're dealing with people that actually watch TV. If MTV promoted it correctly, always a problem, you'd absolutely get people to tune in to see what those people are up to now and watch them compete with young. The biggest mistake was not doing a New-Old have Seasons because even if you only get a handful of veterans out of it that's a huge win.
The Challenge is kinda burnt. Rotate.
Right? We aren't about to get a Key West team; so they either going to pull some real strings to get him on, or they just eliminate him from the cast. Preferbly the latter.
that's why I said ratings will be trash regardless so at this point, what do they have to lose? Themes don't work anymore, nobody cares about AYTO people on this show & if they advertise it right (which they won't do sadly), older fans would be brought back slowly but surely.
I already know they're high on various drugs so all of this is pretty much a moot point either way...I just know the newer RWers better be getting their time on Challenge 29 (Sydney - Vegas 3 excluding the ones who show up over and over again).
The majority of those people wouldnt come back.
I had the chance to talked to Landon and no way in hell he would come back at this point. Most of them have moved on and have other stuff to deal with right now than go on a reality show to get wasted for 1-7 weeks.
They wpuld do a real world miami to make sure he has a hibryd team for seasons hahaha
This video is the perfect example to see how many people care about one of the most popular RW "old-schoolers" and the challenge in general.
https://youtu.be/kIqgmPER65Y?t=2m6s
You're right--especially now. 3/4 years ago the window may have been open but some of them would.
Landon being down is the most disappointing thing of all
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