I finally went from feeling neutral about Cheyenne to liking her this episode. There is not nearly enough character developement on AYTO because there are WAY too many of them per season. And in the little time they have you never really hear about their pasts on AYTO anyway (imo), the plot is predominantly them experiencing rushed, fake romances which is really hard for me to get into or care about. Like Tony said to Amanda, they are on an elaborate vacation with fun activities with a bigger group of people (more likely that you will have at least one friend to make the time there easier) and not experiencing the same stressors that someone in a RW house would like work.Had Cheyenne been on the RW (which I think she and plenty of other AYTO'ers would have been fine on) we would have known her back story and liked her (or at least had an opinion about her) from the getgo. Instead you have to watch like half a season of the challenge to even understand who these new people are.
And lol at Vince in that preview acting like he about to **** somebody up. Where was all that aggression when Dario and Raphy were in your face last season?
This is my first comment ever so here you goFirst you guys need to stop look at this show like it's real life because after lawsuit this show got edited so hard. Producers tried to bring new and strong players with BOTS2 but most of them quit/retired from the show or flopped like lame *** of a person called Zach, so they decided to stick with Wes/Johnny rivalry and CT (Diem death is reason why he is not back yet), plus others went on Johnny side after they failed to beat him (it's easier to beat him in final then through elimination). I bet 70% ot 80% of the show is staged because most of them speak and hang out outside of the show. I bet this final twist is 100% staged, because from what i read on this forum Johnny split his Island and Exis 1 money with Paula and Mark, so they made this "rivalry" even bigger so they can make more money from it. This season new cast members are shit; Devin is trying so hard to be next Wes/Johnny, but he forgot that he needs to perform because being ******* will not win him challenges, Cheyenne missed the show, she needs to stick with AYTO (fake love show), Corey needs to stop play on both sides coz he will crash like this season (he is NOT Landon on FM2), etc. If Wes came to compete and not play politics he would be in finale because Johny numbers crashed with Leroy DQ and Johnn Reilly was ********* and had bad partner, and Tony/Camila alcohol problems (they need to look at Dan who saw what alcohol did to him se he stopped drinking, sad they stopped casting him coz of that). I would love to see Vince solo on the challege but we all need to know he already has numbers in people tnx to cousin so he can go far, only CT and Cara (Jamie) can destroy those numbers easily because they compete first and then play politics if it's needed.From partners side of view Wes and Johnny almost always had equal partners, difference is Johnny had good communication with them and Wes didn't.After RW Portland I almost don't see any good cast members from RW to bring into challenge coz they are all drama related and not competitors, AYTO is not challenge material so stop casting them.And if Johnny is called Backpack, why Wes doesn't have nickname. As I remember Big Easy crushed him and used his head to ring the bell.I'm neutral in this show so for me it's competitive person over drama person.
In Hall Brawl, there is no way Wes could have overpowered Big Easy. Against CT, Bananas could have had a chance. There's a difference from getting knocked over by someone 100 pounds heavier, and getting dragged on someone's back and slammed into a metal bin.
Such a meh episode. It was "entertaining" I guess but felt somewhat off.
sarah and gaynnaas are way to dominant and the challenge didn't seem close at all.
sadly Nicole and Dario were last, Vince and Jenna vs Wes and Nanny would''e been more intriguing. I mean Dario Nicole were made for this challenge, rhey are tiny enough and younger so they were easier getting down.
Vince and Jenna would've had much more problems.
also Vince is a piece of shit, he shouldn't procreate. Those genes have to be stopped. Sadly Johnny will drag him to every Challenge and poor Cheyenne will stuck with him as a Rival soon. Cheyenne is the best thing that this challenge has seen, I hope she keeps bribg that adorable and hot.
TheKorean wrote:Vince's racist *** got on my ******* nerves. Her ******* ignorant is it that they attack the one black girl & start calling her ghetto names like Chantel & Chevon. PISSED. They tried the right one I wish that was Nia, Ceejai or Aneesa.
Chantel & Chevon are "ghetto" names ? *****
Chantel is but I think he called her Chavaun bc of white Chavaun from RW Sydney (still as an insult)
I always thought Chantel as a French name :/
No. Chantel is what you call a girl if you're racist. Also Chauvon. Those are racial epithets, they're "ghetto" & you should be burned at the stake for saying such horrible things.
Vince's racist *** got on my ******* nerves. Her ******* ignorant is it that they attack the one black girl & start calling her ghetto names like Chantel & Chevon. PISSED. They tried the right one I wish that was Nia, Ceejai or Aneesa.
Chantel & Chevon are "ghetto" names ? *****
They're definitely ethnic names. He didn't call her Cindy & Chelsea. He knew what he was doing.. That's also why he called her Simone.
I think it was more about the ch-sounding names. I know more non African American girls with those names actually. He called her simone because she was being dramatic. He was trying to get in a teams head & they fell for it.
I enjoyed this episode's challenge and I'm sure the elimination could have been cool with two non-related teams.Whenever Johnny and Sarah feel like they're not getting enough camera time they'll decide to rehash the god forsaken exes spat.I HATED to see Dario and Nicole win, Nany was way too generous. If she ever comes back after her break I hope she doesnt agree to a challenge with Nicole. Vince is so unbearable holy shit but I'll admit that I laughed at the hazel eyes comment
what did he say about hazel eyes?
ugh i tried so hard to listen to what vince said but i couldnt make out what was going on. can someone tell me everything he said?
i thought i heard him say that she was ugly and had ugly hair or something?
I think it was more about the ch-sounding names. I know more non African American girls with those names actually. He called her simone because she was being dramatic. He was trying to get in a teams head & they fell for it.
Oh please, he knew exactly what he was doing stop making excuses for his bullshit. Simone isn't the only dramatic person in the house. He also attacked her about her hair and her eyes as well.... What's the excuse for that?
I enjoyed this episode's challenge and I'm sure the elimination could have been cool with two non-related teams.Whenever Johnny and Sarah feel like they're not getting enough camera time they'll decide to rehash the god forsaken exes spat.I HATED to see Dario and Nicole win, Nany was way too generous. If she ever comes back after her break I hope she doesnt agree to a challenge with Nicole. Vince is so unbearable holy shit but I'll admit that I laughed at the hazel eyes comment
what did he say about hazel eyes?ugh i tried so hard to listen to what vince said but i couldnt make out what was going on. can someone tell me everything he said? i thought i heard him say that she was ugly and had ugly hair or something?
He said "I think your eyes are just brown and you call them hazel."
I don't think it was racist. However, growing up black in an all white school or vice versa people make jokes, tease and make slick racist comments like that to get under peoples skins, so you can give the origins of those names all you want but in the real world that can hurt if you're being teased because people can take terms or names and turn them into slurs or insults. If you're a white girl and I'm calling you Bertha and that's not your name... then I'm CLEARLY making fun of your whiteness. Bottom line. Same thing if you were black and I call you Shanaenae. As far as the Vince situation it's up to Chey to interprete what Vince was trying to do when he called her outside her name.
Johnny on the other hand has made hispanic/latino jokes in the past that didn't sit well with me. That raised more eyebrows than anyone in the past (well since Jenna T.) but I'm not calling him a racist or anything.
TheKorean wrote:Vince's racist *** got on my ******* nerves. Her ******* ignorant is it that they attack the one black girl & start calling her ghetto names like Chantel & Chevon. PISSED. They tried the right one I wish that was Nia, Ceejai or Aneesa.
Chantel & Chevon are "ghetto" names ? *****
Chantel is but I think he called her Chavaun bc of white Chavaun from RW Sydney (still as an insult)
Heifer, don't even. Chantel is a pretty name. Just because it's not Mary, Sue or Billybob doesn't meant its ghetto.
TheKorean wrote:Vince's racist *** got on my ******* nerves. Her ******* ignorant is it that they attack the one black girl & start calling her ghetto names like Chantel & Chevon. PISSED. They tried the right one I wish that was Nia, Ceejai or Aneesa.
Chantel & Chevon are "ghetto" names ? *****
Chantel is but I think he called her Chavaun bc of white Chavaun from RW Sydney (still as an insult)
Heifer, don't even. Chantel is a pretty name. Just because it's not Mary, Sue or Billybob doesn't meant its ghetto.
Heifer, pick the sand out of your snatch before you come at me. I was categorizing it as "ghetto" in the same way that Cheyenne was (I ***umed thats why DarkFights put it in quotes); a lot of black girls in media have that name and that's why Vince chose to keep calling her that. Like someone else said he didnt call her Charlotte or Chelsea.
RLK2014 wrote:Watching the episode right now and how would Zach think Brooke called like wouldn't it have something like the real world where it says this call will be recorded or something plus I mean it's an international call and he has called Id
mmhmm it was his ***** *** way of getting out of the relationship
I don't get why he didn't just break up with her then..and I don't get why Jenna just didn't say "**** you" when he first called her Brooke. Both of them are dumb.
Zach doesn't break up with his girlfriends. He's not a man. He did the same thing with Jonna, he just disappeared and stopped answering her calls. He's a pathetic little excuse of a man.
RLK2014 wrote:Watching the episode right now and how would Zach think Brooke called like wouldn't it have something like the real world where it says this call will be recorded or something plus I mean it's an international call and he has called Id
mmhmm it was his ***** *** way of getting out of the relationship
I don't get why he didn't just break up with her then..and I don't get why Jenna just didn't say "**** you" when he first called her Brooke. Both of them are dumb.
Zach doesn't break up with his girlfriends. He's not a man. He did the same thing with Jonna, he just disappeared and stopped answering her calls. He's a pathetic little excuse of a man.
Yep. Ashley(San Diego 2) did the right thing in leaving his ***.
TheKorean wrote:Vince's racist *** got on my ******* nerves. Her ******* ignorant is it that they attack the one black girl & start calling her ghetto names like Chantel & Chevon. PISSED. They tried the right one I wish that was Nia, Ceejai or Aneesa.
Chantel & Chevon are "ghetto" names ? *****
They may not be ghetto but they can be considered as typical AA names.I can understand and see why she was upset given her background. Judging from social media so do a lot of other people.
I'm white and I myself was offended by those disgusting comments by Vince. I identified so muchwith Cheyenne inthose scenes. Vince was calling her srereotypical AA names and as a consequence he made her feel like there was nothing more to her character than her being black. Like her race was the only thing people saw. Bananas is funny. Jenna is pretty. Sarah is smart. Cheyenne is black. Her personality is absolutely nothinh like Simone's, but to Vince they are the same because they are both AA.
I identified with her so much, because I went through similar things in my life, obviously not regarding race, but my accent. Nobody even understands why them immitating my accent and making fun of it is hurtful or offensive. I know they are not trying to be mean, they think they're being funny, but I just don't understand why me speaking English (or Spanish) as a second language is a joke. And my accent is not even strong, so **** you.
And lol at Vince in that preview acting like he about to **** somebody up. Where was all that aggression when Dario and Raphy were in your face last season?
I'm actually enjoying Devin. He has aimed his ******** at other ******* and I can get behind that.
In Hall Brawl, there is no way Wes could have overpowered Big Easy. Against CT, Bananas could have had a chance. There's a difference from getting knocked over by someone 100 pounds heavier, and getting dragged on someone's back and slammed into a metal bin.
I feel like even DA would like Cheyenne after this episode. She seems like such a nice person, even if she was on AYTO with some losers.
Such a meh episode. It was "entertaining" I guess but felt somewhat off.
sarah and gaynnaas are way to dominant and the challenge didn't seem close at all.
sadly Nicole and Dario were last, Vince and Jenna vs Wes and Nanny would''e been more intriguing. I mean Dario Nicole were made for this challenge, rhey are tiny enough and younger so they were easier getting down.
Vince and Jenna would've had much more problems.
also Vince is a piece of shit, he shouldn't procreate. Those genes have to be stopped. Sadly Johnny will drag him to every Challenge and poor Cheyenne will stuck with him as a Rival soon. Cheyenne is the best thing that this challenge has seen, I hope she keeps bribg that adorable and hot.
After seeing the aftershow I can we why nany is taking a break, she seems over it and Nicole is younger so why not let her have the experience she had
No. Chantel is what you call a girl if you're racist. Also Chauvon. Those are racial epithets, they're "ghetto" & you should be burned at the stake for saying such horrible things.
They're definitely ethnic names. He didn't call her Cindy & Chelsea. He knew what he was doing.. That's also why he called her Simone.
Vince is a ******* while goddess Cheyenne won my heart over last night. #TEAMPRINCESS
I think it was more about the ch-sounding names. I know more non African American girls with those names actually. He called her simone because she was being dramatic. He was trying to get in a teams head & they fell for it.
Chantel is definitely a french name...lol
It doesn't even matter though, the point is Vince was being a grade A *******.
Is this weeks mucho mas episode even worth it to watch?
what did he say about hazel eyes?
ugh i tried so hard to listen to what vince said but i couldnt make out what was going on. can someone tell me everything he said?
i thought i heard him say that she was ugly and had ugly hair or something?
Oh please, he knew exactly what he was doing stop making excuses for his bullshit. Simone isn't the only dramatic person in the house. He also attacked her about her hair and her eyes as well.... What's the excuse for that?
He said "I think your eyes are just brown and you call them hazel."
Vince is an idiot and an *******. He's also useless as well. He's only there because of Backpack.
I don't think it was racist. However, growing up black in an all white school or vice versa people make jokes, tease and make slick racist comments like that to get under peoples skins, so you can give the origins of those names all you want but in the real world that can hurt if you're being teased because people can take terms or names and turn them into slurs or insults. If you're a white girl and I'm calling you Bertha and that's not your name... then I'm CLEARLY making fun of your whiteness. Bottom line. Same thing if you were black and I call you Shanaenae. As far as the Vince situation it's up to Chey to interprete what Vince was trying to do when he called her outside her name.
Johnny on the other hand has made hispanic/latino jokes in the past that didn't sit well with me. That raised more eyebrows than anyone in the past (well since Jenna T.) but I'm not calling him a racist or anything.
Heifer, don't even. Chantel is a pretty name. Just because it's not Mary, Sue or Billybob doesn't meant its ghetto.
Am I the only one who thinks the aftershows that involve Nany are always lit?
The one last night and the one involving her vs. Theresa/Averey were awesome and got so heated
there's one where she got into it with averey? I missed it?!!??
Talking about the one on Exes 2
Heifer, pick the sand out of your snatch before you come at me. I was categorizing it as "ghetto" in the same way that Cheyenne was (I ***umed thats why DarkFights put it in quotes); a lot of black girls in media have that name and that's why Vince chose to keep calling her that. Like someone else said he didnt call her Charlotte or Chelsea.
I barely remember that one.
I only watched the first half about Nany and Nicole and skipped the second half about Sarah and Bananas because I couldn't care less about those two.
So is the Vince/Jenna being a couple thing BS? I don't see them acting like it or like they did anything. WHo made that up? Vevmo?
Zach doesn't break up with his girlfriends. He's not a man. He did the same thing with Jonna, he just disappeared and stopped answering her calls. He's a pathetic little excuse of a man.
Yep. Ashley(San Diego 2) did the right thing in leaving his ***.
I'm white and I myself was offended by those disgusting comments by Vince. I identified so muchwith Cheyenne inthose scenes. Vince was calling her srereotypical AA names and as a consequence he made her feel like there was nothing more to her character than her being black. Like her race was the only thing people saw. Bananas is funny. Jenna is pretty. Sarah is smart. Cheyenne is black. Her personality is absolutely nothinh like Simone's, but to Vince they are the same because they are both AA.
I identified with her so much, because I went through similar things in my life, obviously not regarding race, but my accent. Nobody even understands why them immitating my accent and making fun of it is hurtful or offensive. I know they are not trying to be mean, they think they're being funny, but I just don't understand why me speaking English (or Spanish) as a second language is a joke. And my accent is not even strong, so **** you.
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