The Challenge: Final Reckoning - Tony Raines

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I mean if you feel that he can't care of his kids you're free to provide for them yourself....

I mean if you feel that he can't care of his kids you're free to provide for them yourself....

Can we be real about this?  He has two daughters, right?  He constantly cheats on his girlfriend soon to be wife and she stays with him.  These are the role models for these poor little girls?  How in the world can someone claim he's "a good father"?   it's pathetic.  Alyssa stays with him which is also setting a horrible example for his girls.

Once you have kids they come first.  Every decision you make dramatically impacts them. 

Again, I feel bad for the kids.  The last thing this idiot should be doing is having more kids.

As much as I'd love to save those girls no one can afford to take responsibility for all the kids out there that have bad parents preventing them from achieving their potenital.   Nor should I be responsible for him not understanding how to use or condom or thinking another kid is a good idea just because he wants a boy.

I mean if you feel that he can't care of his kids you're free to provide for them yourself....

Does the world really need that? Lol He'll be ignoring them for Vevmo like he does his own so let them stay with Tony.

By the way it's still **** Tony.

Debut Album wrote:

I mean if you feel that he can't care of his kids you're free to provide for them yourself....

Does the world really need that? Lol He'll be ignoring them for Vevmo like he does his own so let them stay with Tony.

Compared to Tony who leaves them for months to go on reality tv?

By the way it's still **** Tony.

deeper wrote:

Hating Tony the TV personality is one thing but coming for his ability to provide/father is another. Mind your damn business, his kids seem perfectly taken care of @kvm.

Graphik wrote:

Debut Album wrote:I mean if you feel that he can't care of his kids you're free to provide for them yourself....

Does the world really need that? Lol He'll be ignoring them for Vevmo like he does his own so let them stay with Tony.

Compared to Tony who leaves them for months to go on reality tv?

he goes for the PAYCHECK

kvm1977 wrote:

Graphik wrote:

Debut Album wrote:I mean if you feel that he can't care of his kids you're free to provide for them yourself....

Does the world really need that? Lol He'll be ignoring them for Vevmo like he does his own so let them stay with Tony.

Compared to Tony who leaves them for months to go on reality tv?

he goes for the PAYCHECK

The one he desperately needs for the kids he couldn't afford without it and likely can't even afford with it.  Yupp.

Tony is trash end of story. 

Tony is King and is a damn good father end of story. 

Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

#LeaveTheBaitingEnergyVampireIn2018

You guys have been arguing about this since 2018 , it's time to moved on.

Like who give a **** about Tony and Alyssa jobs/if they are role models to their daughter.

Like I said...Tony is King. Deal With it. Smile

kvm1977 wrote:

Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

Debut Album wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

but you said that he wasn’t able to provide to his family financially. what does one thing have to do with the other?

kvm1977 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

but you said that he wasn’t able to provide to his family financially. what does one thing have to do with the other?

Both are issues to be honest.  I still dont believe they can financially support them.  

nevidcm wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

but you said that he wasn’t able to provide to his family financially. what does one thing have to do with the other?

Both are issues to be honest.  I still dont believe they can financially support them.  

yeah i’m sure two jobs and the big appearance checks aren’t enough

nevidcm wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Debut Album wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

but you said that he wasn’t able to provide to his family financially. what does one thing have to do with the other?

Both are issues to be honest.  I still dont believe they can financially support them.  

Based on?... He gets multiple appearance checks from MTV per year that add up to tens of thousands of dollars I'm sure, and then holds down another job besides that... And they live in Louisiana which isn't even an expensive state. If you're so concerned for the well-being of others' children, I really hope you're out volunteering for those less fortunate instead of spending your time on Vevmo.

 

kvm1977 wrote:

nevidcm wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

but you said that he wasn’t able to provide to his family financially. what does one thing have to do with the other?

Both are issues to be honest.  I still dont believe they can financially support them.  

Based on?... He gets multiple appearance checks from MTV per year that add up to tens of thousands of dollars I'm sure, and then holds down another job besides that... And they live in Louisiana which isn't even an expensive state. If you're so concerned for the well-being of others' children, I really hope you're out volunteering for those less fortunate instead of spending your time on Vevmo. 

What are you claiming his app fees are? 

We can ignore the financial aspect if you want and discuss how he's ruining them emotionally due to his cheating ways but I hope he figures out how to support these kids when those app fees disappear 

deeper wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

nevidcm wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

but you said that he wasn’t able to provide to his family financially. what does one thing have to do with the other?

Both are issues to be honest.  I still dont believe they can financially support them.  

Based on?... He gets multiple appearance checks from MTV per year that add up to tens of thousands of dollars I'm sure, and then holds down another job besides that... And they live in Louisiana which isn't even an expensive state. If you're so concerned for the well-being of others' children, I really hope you're out volunteering for those less fortunate instead of spending your time on Vevmo. 

What are you claiming his app fees are? We can ignore the financial aspect if you want and discuss how he's ruining them emotionally due to his cheating ways but I hope he figures out how to support these kids when those app fees disappear 

I'm not sure, PR and some others would probably have a closer estimate. But I believe it's been said that Bananas/CT get $65K to just show up (not sure but I thought I remembered that). Tony is probably considered in the next tier of vets under them so I wouldn't be surprised if he got maybe like $30K to show up being that he's been on 8ish shows now, could even be more. Multiply it by 2 for the 2 shows a year he's been on and he's making maybe 60K just to show up, plus any bonuses for getting far, plus money from his other job. He could easily be making 6 figures for all we know, but my point is that they're clearly not impoverished so it's none of your business.

If you want to come for him being a cheater, then that's fine. I agree that that's something they might have to deal with later in life, but that's between Alyssa and him. But it's clear he is providing him them finanicially so I don't think you have a right to say anything in that regard.

Anyway, don't know why I'm spending time arguing about Tony, as he's not even a favorite of mine. But it's very clear you're wrong in this regard kvm, but continuing to hate Tony doesn't change his money situation. They have a home, food, toys, and parents who love them. I don't see how that's not providing.

Does Tony have money? No. It’s obvious. But can he provide for his girls? Yes. 

 

Its true he would struggle big big time without MTV but as for now he at least has them to help. 

kvm1977 wrote:

deeper wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:
nevidcm wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:
Debut Album wrote:
kvm1977 wrote:Debut, explain how someone that cheats on his wife/girlfriend is a good father for two girls...any kids of that matter but especially girls

Explain to me how he's a bad father and what him being a cheater has anything to do with him supporting his current and whatever future kids he may have?

You don't understand how seeing a father treat their mother poorly and not respecting her is going to cause problems for his daughters later in life?  Wow.  He's an awful father for that fact alone.  

but you said that he wasn’t able to provide to his family financially. what does one thing have to do with the other?

Both are issues to be honest.  I still dont believe they can financially support them.  

Based on?... He gets multiple appearance checks from MTV per year that add up to tens of thousands of dollars I'm sure, and then holds down another job besides that... And they live in Louisiana which isn't even an expensive state. If you're so concerned for the well-being of others' children, I really hope you're out volunteering for those less fortunate instead of spending your time on Vevmo. 

What are you claiming his app fees are? We can ignore the financial aspect if you want and discuss how he's ruining them emotionally due to his cheating ways but I hope he figures out how to support these kids when those app fees disappear 

I'm not sure, PR and some others would probably have a closer estimate. But I believe it's been said that Bananas/CT get $65K to just show up (not sure but I thought I remembered that). Tony is probably considered in the next tier of vets under them so I wouldn't be surprised if he got maybe like $30K to show up being that he's been on 8ish shows now, could even be more. Multiply it by 2 for the 2 shows a year he's been on and he's making maybe 60K just to show up, plus any bonuses for getting far, plus money from his other job. He could easily be making 6 figures for all we know, but my point is that they're clearly not impoverished so it's none of your business.If you want to come for him being a cheater, then that's fine. I agree that that's something they might have to deal with later in life, but that's between Alyssa and him. But it's clear he is providing him them finanicially so I don't think you have a right to say anything in that regard.

 

Tony doesn’t make no $30k per season and Nicole Ramos has even said we should stop discussing how much the cast makes cause we are off on ALL OF THEM by a lot. That Bananas doesn’t make nearly as much as we keep claiming. 

 

And from what what I heard Tony makes between $10k-$15k to show up BEFORE taxes. 

 

Im a huge fan and even I can say that thinking MTV is paying him $30k to appear is beyond ridiculous 

You guys have been arguing about this since 2018 , it's time to moved on.Like who give a **** about Tony and Alyssa jobs/if they are role models to their daughter.

THANK YOU ! I don't even like Tony but I couldn't care less about how much money and the way he earns it. He is wholeheartedly and genuinely involved in his daughters' life in every aspect.

Who cares if he sells his **** or acting a fool on tv as a living, as long as it's legal ?!

Boooring.  I don't give a shit about Tony's fathering skills, I just want some of his nudes to be leaked.

Wishing her a speedy recovery <3

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