The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion) - Part II

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InterFan wrote:

deeper wrote:

InterFan wrote:Sylvia basically confirmed her beef with Cara is over nothing. Still a fan but that follower comment Momma Day made is starting to make a lot of sense.Also kept alluding that Cara is a production favorite. Which probably explains why they gave her Marie as a partner this season....

No, she confirmed that her and Cara's personalities don't mesh. That's not being a follower, that's just not liking someone.

Theres not liking someone because you just dont 'mesh' with them and then theres going out of your way to be petty and shady by sub/retweeting/liking anti cara stuff. Not being friends is not the same as having actual beef.

Well we haven’t seen this season and Sylvia did say some bullying will happen in the future and obviously didn’t say who. If she already doesn’t like someone bc they don’t mesh well then it’s easier to go on the sub/retweet/like route 

If her and Cara have an actual argument/altercation then i'll eat my words otherwise right now it just looks like Sylvia is going the extra mile because her friends dont like Cara. Which would fit the definition of being a follower.

to the people who are using Cara being partnered with Marie as an example of her not being a production fav:  Giving her Marie was a great way to insure she would go far. Marie is well connected politically, and by teaming Cara up with a girl it would mitigate the target on her back from being the last champion. 

Sylvia basically confirmed her beef with Cara is over nothing. Still a fan but that follower comment Momma Day made is starting to make a lot of sense.Also kept alluding that Cara is a production favorite. Which probably explains why they gave her Marie as a partner this season....

having Marie as a partner and Cara being a production favourite seem like two things that really have nothing to do with each other to me. Marie has tanked on every challenge she’s been on minus vendettas where she literally quit the elim ( just like dirty 30). Having kam as a vendetta would have made much more sense for a ‘production favourite’ since she’s well liked and KILLED her rookie season and the whole grenade thing. 

Kam and Cara Maria would have bull dozed all the other girls in dailies/ elims but with Marie as a partner Cara Maria actually stood to leave fairly early ( statistically, based on previous challenge performances) 

to the people who are using Cara being partnered with Marie as an example of her not being a production fav:  Giving her Marie was a great way to insure she would go far. Marie is well connected politically, and by teaming Cara up with a girl it would mitigate the target on her back from being the last champion. 

That honestly makes no sense. Yeah Marie is good with quite a lot of people but she isnt high on anyones list of allies. Someone like Kam or Nelson would be just as good from a political aspect but also be a really strong partner in the challenges. As far as taking the target off her back, giving her a seemingly not so good partner just makes her easier to get rid off.

Obviously they did reach the final so Marie showed up and out this season. But going off of previous seasons, that wasnt something they would have expected. 

& in the end Marie made the final 

& in the end Marie made the final 

Who?

InterFan wrote:

Sylvia basically confirmed her beef with Cara is over nothing. Still a fan but that follower comment Momma Day made is starting to make a lot of sense.Also kept alluding that Cara is a production favorite. Which probably explains why they gave her Marie as a partner this season....

That doesnt mean anything they gave Veronica to CT.  Lets be real CT, Bananas, Leroy and Cara (Camila was one too) are their golden childs/Favorites right now. They are building up Queen Kam/Tori Deal to be on the same level as the other mention.

Tony time too. And it also feels like they may be building Kyle up to be one. 

new promo with tori  dehal and derrick zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Do Paulie and Joss not get along... I felt Joss was alluding to them beefing on the Challenge live.

PinkRose wrote:

InterFan wrote:Sylvia basically confirmed her beef with Cara is over nothing. Still a fan but that follower comment Momma Day made is starting to make a lot of sense.Also kept alluding that Cara is a production favorite. Which probably explains why they gave her Marie as a partner this season....

That doesnt mean anything they gave Veronica to CT.  Lets be real CT, Bananas, Leroy and Cara (Camila was one too) are their golden childs/Favorites right now. They are building up Queen Kam/Tori Deal to be on the same level as the other mention.

So if production really is playing favourites, why would they give them not so good partners? Sylvia was making it seem like production helps them which doesnt explain their partners, which is a big deciding factor on how far they can get.

Maybe they didnt want them to win again especially straight seasons counting champs vs starss for CT despite being their favs.

Production have rigged things for their favorites like Bananas not having a weight on his box on vendettas first challenge...

PinkRose wrote:

InterFan wrote:Sylvia basically confirmed her beef with Cara is over nothing. Still a fan but that follower comment Momma Day made is starting to make a lot of sense.Also kept alluding that Cara is a production favorite. Which probably explains why they gave her Marie as a partner this season....

That doesnt mean anything they gave Veronica to CT.  Lets be real CT, Bananas, Leroy and Cara (Camila was one too) are their golden childs/Favorites right now. They are building up Queen Kam/Tori Deal to be on the same level as the other mention.

I don't get Tori at all. Yeah the others have a big fan base but Tori really??And Cory was a favorite wasn't he

Tori is love by casuals

Tori is blonde and a solid competitor who will never get loud. that's all it takes for casuals

Tori is blonde and a solid competitor who will never get loud. that's all it takes for casuals

And that means she can get away with being a shitty partner to her ex who she cheated on and felt no remorse for

Challenge 17 wrote:

Tori is blonde and a solid competitor who will never get loud. that's all it takes for casuals

And that means she can get away with being a shitty partner to her ex who she cheated on and felt no remorse for

I dont think she has been shitty with Derrick H and he wasnt as innocent/faithful like he make it seem to her

Challenge 17 wrote:

Tori is blonde and a solid competitor who will never get loud. that's all it takes for casuals

And that means she can get away with being a shitty partner to her ex who she cheated on and felt no remorse for

Derrick sucks, he can't compete despite the fact he's in great shape, he gets no sympathy for a reason lol.

Great shape =\= Athletic 

not gonna lie, I enjoy Tori. 

my only issue is when casuals act like she's WAY better than Kam. 

not gonna lie, I enjoy Tori. my only issue is when casuals act like she's WAY better than Kam. 

cus she "left with money" pfft.

natfan42 wrote:

not gonna lie, I enjoy Tori. my only issue is when casuals act like she's WAY better than Kam. 

cus she "left with money" pfft.

I actually kinda agree with Jemmye on that point in comparing their rookie seasons. But in terms of competitive ability, there's no way anyone can reasonably argue that Tori is WAY better than Kam. 

not gonna lie, I enjoy Tori. my only issue is when casuals act like she's WAY better than Kam. 

Ugh i love how dysfunctional they are lmaoo. An actual rivalry. Other reach-of-a-teams cant relate.

https://twitter.com/ChallengeMTV/status/1021395005502607360

Cara is so dumb lmfaoooo, like why would you tell people that your partner wants them out?

Lmao Marie commenting on Cara's hair. 

such poor gameplay on caras part

Cara is so dumb lmfaoooo, like why would you tell people that your partner wants them out?

Lol i doubt either one will actually turn on Cara so it isnt that big of deal

Now I definitely see why it’s been said that Cara gave up mentally when she saw Marie was her partner. Self sabotage. Ok Rivals 1 Evan 

According to Marie, Cara didn't really care much once she found out she was partners with Marie so that might be a good explanation for the bad gameplay though lol

Now I definitely see why it’s been said that Cara gave up mentally when she saw Marie was her partner. Self sabotage. Ok Rivals 1 Evan 

Lol yeah i was thinking the same. Its entertaining at least Blum 3

Cara has never have good game play or be great at politics.

Hence she was always voted in until the guys wanted to keep the "Stronger" girls around in case they are pair with them on the final.

It’s funny though that she’s telling this to Natalie who turned her back on like 80% of the people she was working with last season.

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