The Challenge: Burn Book (Spoilers)

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Tori's a good to great competitor and a perfect narrator.  I get that you and others hate her outside the show but you understand "the point" of her being cast as well as anyone.  She isn't even overused...yet.

Debut said what he said. Time for bed Phil Donahue.

Exactly

Like Tori is not that ****** important to the show. Tons of people can narrate the show. We don't have to agree with you KVM so you need to stop forcing your opinion. 

Read you quote again...you didn't say "not that ******* important to the show'

You claim I'm forcing my opinions down people's throats?   Read this thread...who does that?

Well you keep arguing with people about it. You've done this **** before. You think Tori is a great narrarator and is needed on the show. Cool. I and several others don't. People can have different opinions. You don't have to keep arguing with people about it. You think what you think and others think what they think. Chill.

Lol KVM acting like he never shoves opinions down people’s throat. His entire schtick is being exactly that and contrarian. Just wait for the next popular opinion on here and he will be right there inserting himself into something no one asked his opinion for. 

 

MY ENTRY

*Reinforcements for Bloody Hell

CT & Ninja are American so they should be ineligible...or should've just been on Team USA.  Dee is from a UK show, but if you wanna stretch her as  an Australian native, fine, but considering how she entered WOW (Geordie Shore 17) she should just be on UK team...(Savage or not)

Turkey makes sense cause it's otherwise unrepresented, They should've used other countries to represent as "Reinforcements" i.e. Clara Tan (ANTM) or whatever other abysmal casting choices they could've got from other countries with shows we've never heard of.

HOW TF is CT a reinforcement? Cause his season was in Paris? PLEASE!

Yea I’m still confused how Ninja and CT are reinforcements.... like make it make sense. But as far as Dee goes. The show she is from is UK based sure, but it was a season that was filmed in Australia with half the cast being Australian. So that would be annoying af if they just slapped a uk flag on her when she is Australian af. 

CARA MARIA...Revisited!

It's been a LONG *** time since I did the last entry on this ***** and since then she's turned her awfulness up to a thousand. She went from being horid to bascially the Female Backpack and THAT is something that deserves to get dragged from hell and back. 

Like where do I start? This ***** is a hypocrite. Calling Angela and Faith Thirsty thos but begging Paulie to cheat on his girl with her on Final Reckoning. Then later on talks about being a role model but just being terrible all around. Role models aren't supposed to be ******. Speaking of Paulie...oh god. She gets Paulie away from his other girl and talked **** about it. Then have the never to say that her relationship is healthy....Yeah okay. Paulie is using that ***** and I can't WAIT for when he dumps her.

She's on every single challenge...like I'm so sick of her ***. Like she's on the show and just doesn't entetain at all. Her little love triangle is boring because Kyle/Paulie don't hate each other and Kyle don't care about CM. 

And let't talk about her Twitter game...She comes for The WWE women(Which she got dragged to high hell for it) and then leaks info to her fans and sick them on other people who oppose her. And she blocks for the pettiest reasons. Thank god she deleted. Then she acts soooo entitled. Like people are supposed to let her win. I HATE that ****. She also ruined Vendettas by her winning. Oh and let's not forget her trying to get Davonne and Kam as her attack dogs and failed at that. 

I'm gonna say the same thing that I say after every Backpack entry I've done since she is the female counterpart of him

RETIRE *****.

YESSSSSSSSS

CLINT

Why is he on The Real World? Like really why? There's nothing there to really justify it. He's just some hick who claims to respect women but treats them like ****. He's and Insecure ***** and on top of that he's racist. There's like no good qualitites to him and it's a shame because he's decent looking. I really hope he doesn't get on the challenge because I really don't want to see him because we don't need him at all. 

KATELYNN

Blast from the past eh? I didn't dislike her per se but she just did nothing in the short time she was on The Challenge. It's a shame though because she was willing to go agains Kenny and Wes on Fresh Meat 2 but she sucked as a competitor so she had no hope of doing anything. Same with Rivals. Would've been interesting to see a Trans person do well on The Challenge but alas it wasn't mean to be with Katelynn. Maybe we'll get that in the future.

The Challenge

A show that has enormous potential, but has truly squandered it all with countless terrible decisions in casting, twists, themes, etc. How does one show get it wrong so often as they do? First off, this trilogy was the worst idea they have had yet. It gave them an excuse to basically use the same cast 3x in a row, sprinkle in some Big Brother and UK folks, and thats it. The core nucleus of this trilogy remained the same, which meant the same ******* storylines. You think we, the viewers truly give a **** about the Cara love triangle? Or Kayleigh being "bullied" or nataLIE being "outted?" You think we truly give a **** who tweeted at who? Game related drama time and time again has proven to be the best type of drama we have seen from this show, yet they decide to focus on people throwing pizza boxes on one another. 

The redemption twists are garbage, and just a cheap way to extend the season. The purges are boring, it was nice the first time, but having it all the time defeats the purpose of it. If you get eliminated, your out, none of this 2-4 chances to re-enter the game type of ****. We all see through it, its just a sad pathetic way to make the season last four months. Listen, no fans want to watch this **** for 4 months. How is it that 10-12 episode seasons were able to show more gameplay with less episodes? Just goes to show how atrocious the editing has gotten too. 

This show had so much potential after Invasion. They were casting new people from RW/AYTO etc. and bringing back some vets that werent seen in years. Now we bringing in all these other shows, and lets be real, none of them been adding to the viewership numbers lmao. Look at how many RW/RR/AYTO people havent been used on this show yet. The casting pool was huge, but theyd rather cast garbage like nataLIE and kyle repeatedly. 

I think its safe to say that there isnt a fanbase thats truly excited for this show anymore. Casuals hated this season, the smarter fans didnt care for this season. The show has oversaturated its own niche market, with too many specials and seasons going on and too many episodes. They really need to go back to basics to save this show because NOBODY is happy with it. People want teams, they want Old School v New School, its really that ******* simple. But these morons gotta concoct some stupid *** twists that make no sense. This show is going to continue going downhill. and it deserves it.

show is still going downhill. Change my mind. 

TBH they could go back to 6 vs 6 challenges and end it for all I care....It's an abysmal trainwreck that I'm attached to only out of fondness for the previous seasons/casts, and it's "evolution" over time.

 

 

TBH they could go back to 6 vs 6 challenges and end it for all I care....It's an abysmal trainwreck that I'm attached to only out of fondness for the previous seasons/casts, and it's "evolution" over time.

If they ever bring back the spinoffs I'd like to see them do the 6 vs 6 format for it. Be a nice throwback.

 

 

TBH they could go back to 6 vs 6 challenges and end it for all I care....It's an abysmal trainwreck that I'm attached to only out of fondness for the previous seasons/casts, and it's "evolution" over time.

I've been done completely. Haven't seen a full season since Vendettas. Even with John losing on the show, Wes coming back, the new additions from WoTW, this show will always drag because of the editing and repetitive/tired storylines season after season. I pretty much only keep up with the challenge through this site. Still the best challenge fans community, unlike Reddit who eat all the **** up the challenge feeds them. "zomg Final reckoning end of an era." "You can't spell The Challenge without CT." etc. 

 

TBH they could go back to 6 vs 6 challenges and end it for all I care....It's an abysmal trainwreck that I'm attached to only out of fondness for the previous seasons/casts, and it's "evolution" over time.

If they ever bring back the spinoffs I'd like to see them do the 6 vs 6 format for it. Be a nice throwback.

 

 

It would be. But tbh I do not have faith in the casting....a season with only Bananas, Chocolate Bananas, Ginger, and their respective concubines doesn't necessarily excite me either.

My entry

KellyAnne being left off Vendettas while Britni was kept around

This speaks for itself. KellyAnne was by far more entertaining and brought more competition. Britni's only contribution was being thirsty for veteran players like Derrick and Brad, while being a layup that people for some reason were hyping up on Dirty 30 because she somehow made it far, even though it turned out she did nothing of note that season. Not to mention her over the top drama with Chuck on FR and I'm glad she's been given the dust now, but it also meant KellyAnne was never coming back. She would have easily outdone Britni in every aspect of the challenge on Vendettas and FR. 

 

TBH they could go back to 6 vs 6 challenges and end it for all I care....It's an abysmal trainwreck that I'm attached to only out of fondness for the previous seasons/casts, and it's "evolution" over time.

I've been done completely. Haven't seen a full season since Vendettas. Even with John losing on the show, Wes coming back, the new additions from WoTW, this show will always drag because of the editing and repetitive/tired storylines season after season. I pretty much only keep up with the challenge through this site. Still the best challenge fans community, unlike Reddit who eat all the **** up the challenge feeds them. "zomg Final reckoning end of an era." "You can't spell The Challenge without CT." etc. 

BRO! I think the last season I actually watched fully through was Invasion, I got so hyped over the XXX (cause of Veronica's return with Darrell, Aneesa and Derrick), loved the trailer, but everything else fell flat for me, save Aneesa/Vero's dynamic. The only thing I liked about the trilogy is that Veronica was present for it's entirety (as in each season she appeared)....aside from that ehhhhh

I think I'm most irritated with the casting, then the editing, then the storylines themselves..Nothing they show interests me anymore it's just the same nonsense, so at this point I just care to check who was cast for the next obligatory (repetitive) season, and who was eliminated in what order....They can keep everything else and just gimme a trailer. I'll get the gist of it.

My entry

KellyAnne being left off Vendettas while Britni was kept around

This speaks for itself. KellyAnne was by far more entertaining and brought more competition. Britni's only contribution was being thirsty for veteran players like Derrick and Brad, while being a layup that people for some reason were hyping up on Dirty 30 because she somehow made it far, even though it turned out she did nothing of note that season. Not to mention her over the top drama with Chuck on FR and I'm glad she's been given the dust now, but it also meant KellyAnne was never coming back. She would have easily outdone Britni in every aspect of the challenge on Vendettas and FR. 

IDK why they couldn't have just made the alternates added cast mates and added a 2nd mission purge or something to balance numbers out..

 

 

TBH they could go back to 6 vs 6 challenges and end it for all I care....It's an abysmal trainwreck that I'm attached to only out of fondness for the previous seasons/casts, and it's "evolution" over time.

If they ever bring back the spinoffs I'd like to see them do the 6 vs 6 format for it. Be a nice throwback.

 

 

It would be. But tbh I do not have faith in the casting....a season with only Bananas, Chocolate Bananas, Ginger, and their respective concubines doesn't necessarily excite me either.

Yeah...now that you think about it it'd be horrible. Why can't they just leave those losers at home for once smh.

The challenge: invasion was good except for the finale episodes. It was exactly what I wanted from the show, mix of old school vets (Shane and darrell’s surprising returns), bringing in rookie real worlders and ayto people that actually brought something to the show and weren’t waste of spots. That season still had tiring vets but with the exception of Camila, they weren’t on that season very long and we got to see people like Amanda, Ashley, Nelson, Hunter in the spotlight. Good ol’ times and then it became tragic and repetitive again right after. 

The social media aspect of the show doesn’t help either. We can’t get a break from these people and their tired rivalries or all the fake feuds/hook ups they rub in our faces every day just to get a spot on the show. Granted, the golden era had attention seeking castmembers also but we didn’t have to hear about it every damn day because of social media so that’s why I have more appreciation for that time than to be invested in anything people do to get on the show now. 

 

TBH they could go back to 6 vs 6 challenges and end it for all I care....It's an abysmal trainwreck that I'm attached to only out of fondness for the previous seasons/casts, and it's "evolution" over time.

I've been done completely. Haven't seen a full season since Vendettas. Even with John losing on the show, Wes coming back, the new additions from WoTW, this show will always drag because of the editing and repetitive/tired storylines season after season. I pretty much only keep up with the challenge through this site. Still the best challenge fans community, unlike Reddit who eat all the **** up the challenge feeds them. "zomg Final reckoning end of an era." "You can't spell The Challenge without CT." etc. 

Hey RWportland. Nice to see ya. 

Nice to see you too, Debut, glad your thread is still up and running. 

Nice to see you too, Debut, glad your thread is still up and running. 

Yeah I just started back making entries in it a few days ago. 

**Not using alternates on Vendettas**

Kellyanne and Corey Brooks were ON LOCATION when Vendettas was filming. And Nicole R and Daddy Rogan vacationed with them after they were Day-1 Purged. And oh yeah, DerricK was there but whatever.

So WHY. DIDN'T. THEY. USE. THEM. Corey could have been brought on to replace Eddie and Kellyanne should have entered when Sylvia had to leave from being sick. Both would have been welcome additions to the season.

Also, another thing - **the surprise Purge that screwed Nelson on Vendettas.** Unannounced before he did the daily and it was not fair. He deserves another final. Not that he would have won the Vendettas final, but he deserves better than an unexpected Purge to end his run.

Finally - **Kayleigh quitting on Vendettas because she was "bullied."** Girl, you are not innocent at ALL yourself. And you're calling these girls vicious because they threw some CLOTHES down one story? When you were kicked out of Celebrity Big Brother for actually threatening people? The hypocrisy is too much and I wish she was never invited back.

THE BAD *** TEAM ON INFERNO 2.

Some of the people I liked on that team but overall they were a ******* mess. They didn't comunnicate well and they never seemed to work together as a unit which ended up costing them the win. Not to mention that whole Jodi situation that still makes me mad to this day. I was glad they lost that challenge honestly.

THEO NOT WINNING WAR OF THE WORLDS 1.

I love Turbo but ****...I wanted Theo to take it home. Mainly because we would've gotten our first black winner since Gauntlet 3(a damn shame if you ask me). Maybe he or someone can pull if off in the future. I sure hope so. 

THE BAD *** TEAM ON INFERNO 2.

Some of the people I liked on that team but overall they were a ******* mess. They didn't comunnicate well and they never seemed to work together as a unit which ended up costing them the win. Not to mention that whole Jodi situation that still makes me mad to this day. I was glad they lost that challenge honestly.

I remember at the time I thought it was odd that 4 girls from the last challenge were on the same team plus random *** Beth (who at the time I couldn't tell if she was Beth A or S)

Do you think it would've been a better challenge if we had the original planned cast with Coral, Melissa, Tina, Tonya, Veronica and Puckk?

 

THE BAD *** TEAM ON INFERNO 2.

Some of the people I liked on that team but overall they were a ******* mess. They didn't comunnicate well and they never seemed to work together as a unit which ended up costing them the win. Not to mention that whole Jodi situation that still makes me mad to this day. I was glad they lost that challenge honestly.

I remember at the time I thought it was odd that 4 girls from the last challenge were on the same team plus random *** Beth (who at the time I couldn't tell if she was Beth A or S)

Do you think it would've been a better challenge if we had the original planned cast with Coral, Melissa, Tina, Tonya, Veronica and Puckk?

Definetly. All of them would've made the season hella good.

Inferno 2 was already a GOAT season with its original cast. I can only imagine how much better it would have been if Coral, Melissa, Puck, even Katie were on it. 

Inferno 2 was already a GOAT season with its original cast. I can only imagine how much better it would have been if Coral, Melissa, Puck, even Katie were on it. 

Yep. I've always said the Inferno 2 was better than the first one despite the first one being Iconic.

Inferno 2 had 30 min episodes (which means 22 mins or so) and managed to tell a game and non game related story in a better and more efficient way than the show does today.

It’s the pinnacle of the challenge imo.

Inferno 2 had 30 min episodes (which means 22 mins or so) and managed to tell a game and non game related story in a better and more efficient way than the show does today.

It’s the pinnacle of the challenge imo.

They only had an elimination every other episode though... so it was stil 44 minutes to get one person out.

 

Inferno 2 had 30 min episodes (which means 22 mins or so) and managed to tell a game and non game related story in a better and more efficient way than the show does today.

It’s the pinnacle of the challenge imo.

They only had an elimination every other episode though... so it was stil 44 minutes to get one person out.

Yeah, like 1 episode was challenge related and 2nd episode was elimination related and what manifested. Which is essentially 1 whole episode with both. 

But each episode was like 25/26 minutes. so it's add up to like 50/52 minutes, a whole 5-7 more minutes to work with the current 44/45 minute run.

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