Zach seems like a huge *******. The way he treats women is gross. I would like Jonna to just quit and see him have one of his little temper tantrums.
I don't think it was right to put Jonna on the spot. He knew it wasn't her idea. That wasn't cool.
I'd totally understand if Jonna were to quit, but I hope that doesn't happen. This show is not kind to quitters. Jonna would be made out to be the bad guy instead of Zach for pushing her to that point.
What I want to see is Brittany/Adam win a mission and throw in Zach/Jonna as payback. That would show Zach he's not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.
everybody in that room seems to wonder why britany/adam win their elimination rounds and not the missions. its not hard to figure out. winning an elimination round means youre beating ONE person...winning a challenge means youre being THIRTEEN others. much more competition. brittany/adam beating one person in the elimination round doesnt make them a top team, it just makes them better than the ONE team that they beat at whatever it is that they won in. also add the fact that all the teams that they've beaten have been **** poor with eexception of jessica/dustin, its no surprise that theyve not come close in anyway at winning the challenges. taking out jemmye/knight isnt the same as taking out theresa/wes, nany/bananas, sarah/jordan all at the same time.
Jessica and Dustin are **** poor, too. Dustin might be average, but Jessica is just awful. Let's not forget it was her third challenge and she still has never won an elimination.
That being said, I don't like the double standard. A win is a win, and Adam and Brittany should be given some credit. Winning three elimination rounds practically in a row is impressive, no matter who your opponent is. The eating one might have been easy, but the other two were physical. It is still exhausting and they don't really have time to recover before they're going in again.
everybody in that room seems to wonder why britany/adam win their elimination rounds and not the missions. its not hard to figure out. winning an elimination round means youre beating ONE person...winning a challenge means youre being THIRTEEN others. much more competition. brittany/adam beating one person in the elimination round doesnt make them a top team, it just makes them better than the ONE team that they beat at whatever it is that they won in. also add the fact that all the teams that they've beaten have been **** poor with eexception of jessica/dustin, its no surprise that theyve not come close in anyway at winning the challenges. taking out jemmye/knight isnt the same as taking out theresa/wes, nany/bananas, sarah/jordan all at the same time.
Jessica and Dustin are **** poor, too. Dustin might be average, but Jessica is just awful. Let's not forget it was her third challenge and she still has never won an elimination.
That being said, I don't like the double standard. A win is a win, and Adam and Brittany should be given some credit. Winning three elimination rounds practically in a row is impressive, no matter who your opponent is. The eating one might have been easy, but the other two were physical. It is still exhausting and they don't really have time to recover before they're going in again.
She just announced she will not be retiring from the challenges too, so many more to come if she's invited. Not sure public opinion was asking for her to come back, but she will if called. She than referenced her and Nia as Lebron and Wade like. Not sure but she has to have no idea who those guys are to make a reference like that.. Unless she means stricly that they are friends in real life and in the game. that's the only thing she could have meant by that. Clearly she can't mean friends who dominate the challenge haha. Because when most peole think of lebron/wade they think of dominate players two of the best ever, champions and friends. Nia has solid potential to be good though, if she can have a political game.
As far as Zach, He has been doing the same thing since day 1. he never says stuff to people's face, but craps on them in his talking heads interviews. He clearly has issues ..Just becuase he gives some clever simile in his talking heads and looks like he does, he is always goin to have fans. but his true colors come out a little more each show he is on, the i want who's next fit, the crying on the final, and now this.
everybody in that room seems to wonder why britany/adam win their elimination rounds and not the missions. its not hard to figure out. winning an elimination round means youre beating ONE person...winning a challenge means youre being THIRTEEN others. much more competition. brittany/adam beating one person in the elimination round doesnt make them a top team, it just makes them better than the ONE team that they beat at whatever it is that they won in. also add the fact that all the teams that they've beaten have been **** poor with eexception of jessica/dustin, its no surprise that theyve not come close in anyway at winning the challenges. taking out jemmye/knight isnt the same as taking out theresa/wes, nany/bananas, sarah/jordan all at the same time.
Jessica and Dustin are **** poor, too. Dustin might be average, but Jessica is just awful. Let's not forget it was her third challenge and she still has never won an elimination.
That being said, I don't like the double standard. A win is a win, and Adam and Brittany should be given some credit. Winning three elimination rounds practically in a row is impressive, no matter who your opponent is. The eating one might have been easy, but the other two were physical. It is still exhausting and they don't really have time to recover before they're going in again.
She just announced she will not be retiring from the challenges too, so many more to come if she's invited. Not sure public opinion was asking for her to come back, but she will if called. She than referenced her and Nia as Lebron and Wade like. Not sure but she has to have no idea who those guys are to make a reference like that.. Unless she means stricly that they are friends in real life and in the game. that's the only thing she could have meant by that. Clearly she can't mean friends who dominate the challenge haha. Because when most peole think of lebron/wade they think of dominate players two of the best ever, champions and friends. Nia has solid potential to be good though, if she can have a political game.
As far as Zach, He has been doing the same thing since day 1. he never says stuff to people's face, but craps on them in his talking heads interviews. He clearly has issues ..Just becuase he gives some clever simile in his talking heads and looks like he does, he is always goin to have fans. but his true colors come out a little more each show he is on, the i want who's next fit, the crying on the final, and now this.
SHocker! lol I think everyone knows this girl will be back if they ask her again...I want a break from Jess, she have done 2 more challenges than Averey and Ave have more followers than her.
Jess always have been delusional, I still can't get over her complaining for not being invited to the Rivals 2 reunion and she was the first girl team out...
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Yeah. I don't have a problem with Jessica but she's kinda irrelevant. I feel like Avery and Nia will be better representations of Portland than her.
And I want Joi to get on too..Just so Portland can be the newest season to have all it's castmembers on a challenge.
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
The thing with Joi is that she knew her bf was getting surgery before filming and she still decide to do it, so its not a really legit reason. I remember her saying that if the show was in Miami or some where else , she wouldnt had leave ... Why go to film a show take somebody else spot, dont do anything and just leave 2 weeks after over something you knew was going to happen during filming? I personally think the whole bf thing was an excuse because she just didn't like a lot of things during filming. I started doing spoilers when Portland was filming and I remember hearing that production wasn't a big fan of Joi when filming started because she always had a con against everything: 1. She didn't like the location because it was to close to her original location and she had been there tons of times. 2. She didn't like the jobs because it wasn't up to her standards 3. She had a lot of walls because she didn't felt comfortable talking about her life and bf on camera since he was a football player.
I can see why they would go with any of the St.thomas, Portland, Explosion, Skeletons and even are you the one girls over her. She have to much competition of more interesting girls than her.
Do I want to see Joi? Yeah she is a fresh face, real worlder and athletic. But I wouldn't be surprised if she keeps being an alternate and not making the cast. Other boring people on the challenge have been interesting at some point such as JD, Preston, Ayiiia and Even Jay/Jenna had storylines on their real world. Joi never had one she literally show up, 2 cofessionals and left.
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
The thing with Joi is that she knew her bf was getting surgery before filming and she still decide to do it, so its not a really legit reason. I remember her saying that if the show was in Miami or some where else , she wouldnt had leave ... Why go to film a show take somebody else spot, dont do anything and just leave 2 weeks after over something you knew was going to happen during filming? I personally think the whole bf thing was an excuse because she just didn't like a lot of things during filming. I started doing spoilers when Portland was filming and I remember hearing that production wasn't a big fan of Joi when filming started because she always had a con against everything: 1. She didn't like the location because it was to close to her original location and she had been there tons of times. 2. She didn't like the jobs because it wasn't up to her standards 3. She had a lot of walls because she didn't felt comfortable talking about her life and bf on camera since he was a football player. I can see why they would go with any of the St.thomas, Portland, Explosion, Skeletons and even are you the one girls over her. She have to much competition of more interesting girls than her. Do I want to see Joi? Yeah she is a fresh face, real worlder and athletic. But I wouldn't be surprised if she keeps being an alternate and not making the cast. Other boring people on the challenge have been interesting at some point such as JD, Preston, Ayiiia and Even Jay/Jenna had storylines on their real world. Joi never had one she literally show up, 2 cofessionals and left.
I didn't know Joi knew about her boyfriend before so I see your point but I still think she could bring someting to the challenge and should be given a chance. Just because she didn't do much on her season doesn't mean she wouldn't have a storyline on the challenge, it is a different environment and people. Some people who had storylines on the Real World have been wallpaper on the challenges (JD/Davis/Ayiiia...etc) The challenge can bring out a completely different side of you, good or bad.
Katie was boring on The Quest & look how her getting on the challenges turned out. I doubt Joi is that level of crazy but I would like to think a little bit of Nia has rubbed off on her the same way it did Jessica.
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
The thing with Joi is that she knew her bf was getting surgery before filming and she still decide to do it, so its not a really legit reason. I remember her saying that if the show was in Miami or some where else , she wouldnt had leave ... Why go to film a show take somebody else spot, dont do anything and just leave 2 weeks after over something you knew was going to happen during filming? I personally think the whole bf thing was an excuse because she just didn't like a lot of things during filming. I started doing spoilers when Portland was filming and I remember hearing that production wasn't a big fan of Joi when filming started because she always had a con against everything: 1. She didn't like the location because it was to close to her original location and she had been there tons of times. 2. She didn't like the jobs because it wasn't up to her standards 3. She had a lot of walls because she didn't felt comfortable talking about her life and bf on camera since he was a football player. I can see why they would go with any of the St.thomas, Portland, Explosion, Skeletons and even are you the one girls over her. She have to much competition of more interesting girls than her. Do I want to see Joi? Yeah she is a fresh face, real worlder and athletic. But I wouldn't be surprised if she keeps being an alternate and not making the cast. Other boring people on the challenge have been interesting at some point such as JD, Preston, Ayiiia and Even Jay/Jenna had storylines on their real world. Joi never had one she literally show up, 2 cofessionals and left.
I didn't know Joi knew about her boyfriend before so I see your point but I still think she could bring someting to the challenge and should be given a chance. Just because she didn't do much on her season doesn't mean she wouldn't have a storyline on the challenge, it is a different environment and people. Some people who had storylines on the Real World have been wallpaper on the challenges (JD/Davis/Ayiiia...etc) The challenge can bring out a completely different side of you, good or bad.
I totally agree! Just look at simone entertaining on ayto boring on the challenge. Some people can be the opposite. My point with Joi is that with production some times the first impression is the one that count the most, she was a really wall up on her season and literally complaint about a lot didn't deliver much. I can see why they would contact other rookies girls over her, especially after 2 seasons from her season. If I was a producer I would contact all the portland/Explosion/Skeletons girls over her to take the female rookies spot. I think Joi would be athletic and hook up. I dont see her bringing to much drama, she looks more like a passive agressive girl just based on her interview after her season. She talked shit about Ana/Jess while they were filming Rivals 2, they came back she was silent.
If Zach and Jonna get sent into the dome this challenge and lose, I can see Zach being totally cruel to her during it and yelling at her. Jonna said we'll see why she doesn't want to be his friend anymore, so apparently there's more douchiness to come from Zach.
If Zach and Jonna get sent into the dome this challenge and lose, I can see Zach being totally cruel to her during it and yelling at her. Jonna said we'll see why she doesn't want to be his friend anymore, so apparently there's more douchiness to come from Zach.
He'd probably be really bad to her if they made the final too... just look at the way he treated Sam.
I don't even see the zach is funny thing, maybe it's just me but I have never found him funny, I do think he rehearses his lines starting on rivals 2, he sucked on bots u basically heard the crickets when he was doing his head interviews, but he came with lines on rivals 2, and free agents.
I agree with him being a big baby about everything, him jumping from one girl to another, its like he gets bored with a toy and wants the next one that is new.
He was awful on San Diego too. Just really mean. I remember Alex got emotional at the reunion because both Zach and Ashley (because of Zach) refused to exchange phone numbers with the rest of the cast after filming. He doesn't seem like a good person.
He really showed what a punk he really is. He couldn't handle Bananas yelling at him, so he takes his anger out on Jonna, the most harmless girl there who is way too nice and will put up with it. Jonna needs to be stronger in putting him in his place. Give him the F U. Channel some Coral or something. Even Jessica will defend herself fiercely and would have told him off.
I actually kinda wish she would do this.
I'd totally understand if Jonna were to quit, but I hope that doesn't happen. This show is not kind to quitters. Jonna would be made out to be the bad guy instead of Zach for pushing her to that point.
What I want to see is Brittany/Adam win a mission and throw in Zach/Jonna as payback. That would show Zach he's not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.
Me too. I keep picturing them in an elimination and he's screaming at her and she's sitting there filing her nails or something! LOL
Jessica and Dustin are **** poor, too. Dustin might be average, but Jessica is just awful. Let's not forget it was her third challenge and she still has never won an elimination.
That being said, I don't like the double standard. A win is a win, and Adam and Brittany should be given some credit. Winning three elimination rounds practically in a row is impressive, no matter who your opponent is. The eating one might have been easy, but the other two were physical. It is still exhausting and they don't really have time to recover before they're going in again.
If Jonna disqualified herself from the game that would be hilarious.
She just announced she will not be retiring from the challenges too, so many more to come if she's invited. Not sure public opinion was asking for her to come back, but she will if called. She than referenced her and Nia as Lebron and Wade like. Not sure but she has to have no idea who those guys are to make a reference like that.. Unless she means stricly that they are friends in real life and in the game. that's the only thing she could have meant by that. Clearly she can't mean friends who dominate the challenge haha. Because when most peole think of lebron/wade they think of dominate players two of the best ever, champions and friends. Nia has solid potential to be good though, if she can have a political game.
As far as Zach, He has been doing the same thing since day 1. he never says stuff to people's face, but craps on them in his talking heads interviews. He clearly has issues ..Just becuase he gives some clever simile in his talking heads and looks like he does, he is always goin to have fans. but his true colors come out a little more each show he is on, the i want who's next fit, the crying on the final, and now this.
i would love for her to pull a Big Easy and see Zack cry like Camila
SHocker! lol I think everyone knows this girl will be back if they ask her again...I want a break from Jess, she have done 2 more challenges than Averey and Ave have more followers than her.
Jess always have been delusional, I still can't get over her complaining for not being invited to the Rivals 2 reunion and she was the first girl team out...
Jessica is defintely delusional but I can't help but like her.
They need to choose the other Portlands girls over Jess like Averey and Nia, hell even Joi at this point. Joi never even got a chance to show us who she is.
Yeah. I don't have a problem with Jessica but she's kinda irrelevant. I feel like Avery and Nia will be better representations of Portland than her.
And I want Joi to get on too..Just so Portland can be the newest season to have all it's castmembers on a challenge.
Joi had a chance to show us, who she was...She just threw it away by herself over the job and bf at the time. If you know you're leaving that early atleast leave a mark to make production want to contact you again like shouvan, Adam R and Ashley M. Nia totally took her spot. When it comes to the other portland girls (Bird, Nia and Averey) I can see why they would choose her over her, even Jess that i dislike.
She actually referred to herself and Nia as Lebron and Wade? That's horrifyingly delusional.
Obviously Nia took her spot and was a better casting choice but I mean Joi was there for only a few weeks and left to take care of her bf (which is a legit excuse) that really isn't a chance to show us who she is. Just because she wasn't a crazy drunk like Adam R and Ashley M doesn't mean there isn't more to her. We literally know like nothing about her so you never know she may bring something to the challenge. I think she deserves a chance.
They've pick far more boring people than her to be on a challenge....
Jenna...
And some of them are on this current challenge.
The thing with Joi is that she knew her bf was getting surgery before filming and she still decide to do it, so its not a really legit reason. I remember her saying that if the show was in Miami or some where else , she wouldnt had leave ... Why go to film a show take somebody else spot, dont do anything and just leave 2 weeks after over something you knew was going to happen during filming? I personally think the whole bf thing was an excuse because she just didn't like a lot of things during filming. I started doing spoilers when Portland was filming and I remember hearing that production wasn't a big fan of Joi when filming started because she always had a con against everything: 1. She didn't like the location because it was to close to her original location and she had been there tons of times. 2. She didn't like the jobs because it wasn't up to her standards 3. She had a lot of walls because she didn't felt comfortable talking about her life and bf on camera since he was a football player.
I can see why they would go with any of the St.thomas, Portland, Explosion, Skeletons and even are you the one girls over her. She have to much competition of more interesting girls than her.
Do I want to see Joi? Yeah she is a fresh face, real worlder and athletic. But I wouldn't be surprised if she keeps being an alternate and not making the cast. Other boring people on the challenge have been interesting at some point such as JD, Preston, Ayiiia and Even Jay/Jenna had storylines on their real world. Joi never had one she literally show up, 2 cofessionals and left.
Jenna had a storyline Joi didn't.
I didn't know Joi knew about her boyfriend before so I see your point but I still think she could bring someting to the challenge and should be given a chance. Just because she didn't do much on her season doesn't mean she wouldn't have a storyline on the challenge, it is a different environment and people. Some people who had storylines on the Real World have been wallpaper on the challenges (JD/Davis/Ayiiia...etc) The challenge can bring out a completely different side of you, good or bad.
Katie was boring on The Quest & look how her getting on the challenges turned out. I doubt Joi is that level of crazy but I would like to think a little bit of Nia has rubbed off on her the same way it did Jessica.
I totally agree! Just look at simone entertaining on ayto boring on the challenge. Some people can be the opposite. My point with Joi is that with production some times the first impression is the one that count the most, she was a really wall up on her season and literally complaint about a lot didn't deliver much. I can see why they would contact other rookies girls over her, especially after 2 seasons from her season. If I was a producer I would contact all the portland/Explosion/Skeletons girls over her to take the female rookies spot. I think Joi would be athletic and hook up. I dont see her bringing to much drama, she looks more like a passive agressive girl just based on her interview after her season. She talked shit about Ana/Jess while they were filming Rivals 2, they came back she was silent.
If Zach and Jonna get sent into the dome this challenge and lose, I can see Zach being totally cruel to her during it and yelling at her. Jonna said we'll see why she doesn't want to be his friend anymore, so apparently there's more douchiness to come from Zach.
He'd probably be really bad to her if they made the final too... just look at the way he treated Sam.
He will be awful to her regardless. He was awful to Sam but Frank somehow got all the blame for it when Zach was just as bad.
EXACTLY! That is why Frank just wanted him and Ashley in the finals because he knew Zach wasn't that good and was overrated. Frank is a smart guy.
I don't even see the zach is funny thing, maybe it's just me but I have never found him funny, I do think he rehearses his lines starting on rivals 2, he sucked on bots u basically heard the crickets when he was doing his head interviews, but he came with lines on rivals 2, and free agents.
I agree with him being a big baby about everything, him jumping from one girl to another, its like he gets bored with a toy and wants the next one that is new.
He was awful on San Diego too. Just really mean. I remember Alex got emotional at the reunion because both Zach and Ashley (because of Zach) refused to exchange phone numbers with the rest of the cast after filming. He doesn't seem like a good person.
I never get tired of hearing people call Zach a baby. It makes me laugh every time.
He really showed what a punk he really is. He couldn't handle Bananas yelling at him, so he takes his anger out on Jonna, the most harmless girl there who is way too nice and will put up with it. Jonna needs to be stronger in putting him in his place. Give him the F U. Channel some Coral or something. Even Jessica will defend herself fiercely and would have told him off.
Jonna defending herself in that small scene was enough for me ; I think that's as far as she'll go.
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