i would love clarification on him and avereys timeline cuz I swore it was said they didnt get together until afterwards, but he seemed very annoyed by her voting for what kam wanted. So in the very least, theyre definitely aligned. Why cant we see more of that instead of laurel and zanatta?!
Ooh you got me wet with this one. Yes! Also in general I want to know where Averey stands. We have no real clue who she's aligned with, where her heads at, etc. She's always winning dailies or in the middle group, too, so she should be highlighted more this season.
It's funny that Veronica described Cara as an "energy vampire" who sucks the energy out of every room she's in because that's exactly how I would describe that hag! I don't know her... but I also don't wanna know her. Sooooooooo.
Weren't you cussing out Killa for not knowing who Jo was and not watching older seasons just last night? Now you are going to pretend not to know the second most iconic Challenger?
Laurel was probably hyping up all the things about Cara to Jasmine and the house
Apparently Laurel told all the women in the house to target Cara, telling a bunch of them bad things about her. Ace told Cara about it towards the end of the season.
Jasmine says in there she is going through a bitter divorce and is a woman scorned. Now I get it!! Her bark has still always been much larger than her bite, but at least now I know why she always had an egde in her confessionals this season. I hope she'd found peace and a good vibrat*r!
Lastly Jasmine said Cara giving her the star did put a target on her back: "I took a shot. It didn't work. She took a shot. And she nailed it right on point." So, anyone saying Cara made a dumb move can su*k it.
Maybe my favorite part though lmao: "I wish people got to see how annoyed we all were with Laurel and Nicole. [Laughs.] We kept telling Nicole, "If you don't stop talking about her, don't come in this room again talking about that." [Laughs.]"
Ha, Ace winning after Cara dropped him is ironic. She hurt his feelings for nothing.
Yes! The episode title was great because at first glance you think it's just about Jasmine going home, but karma also bit her with Ace winning so it went both ways! Love it.
So glad we got Kefla on her screens for at least half a season!
It is stupid to say someone is playing a scared or selfish game when they're actually just playing smart. Getting a star and keeping it is the name of the game -- Cara is trying to make the moves to do that.
Nicole would do the same. And she's also playing what she called selfish and scared but is also smart by picking Jasmine over Veronica because Jasmine is an easier out. The irony in this episode is crazy lol.
It is stupid to say someone is playing a scared or selfish game when they're actually just playing smart. Getting a star and keeping it is the name of the game -- Cara is trying to make the moves to do that.
Nicole would do the same. And she's also playing what she called selfish and scared but is also smart by picking Jasmine over Veronica because Jasmine is an easier out. The irony in this episode is crazy lol.
Yes. Ugh the main thing that bothers me across all of these competition shows is the contradictory statements people make. At least we heard Cara saying at the end that it's smart of people to try and get rid of her. That's her acknowledging things objectively.
More irony: if Kam hadn't turned on Cara, she would have been in this elim against Tina and have a star. Now, I think Kam made a smart boss move against Cara (albeit, for the wrong reasons) getting Brandon/Jasmine to vote in Cara, but it kind of shows how big moves too early can work against you.
More irony: if Kam hadn't turned on Cara, she would have been in this elim against Tina and have a star. Now, I think Kam made a smart boss move against Cara (albeit, for the wrong reasons) getting Brandon/Jasmine to vote in Cara, but it kind of shows how big moves too early can work against you.
See also: Wes vs Kenny, FM2
Yeah big moves are all about situation and timing.
Having said that, if Rachel had beaten Cara in that random elimination, that also would have changed a lot and who knows what would be going on right now (Tina would have then had more protection, though).
I will give Kam credit for one thing; she managed to get Rachel out, and the blowback has been on Brandon and Jasmine who both immeditely went out. I don't think it was Kam's intention, but it worked out for her to a degree (though Cara blocked Kam's wish). At least Adam is onto it, but other people don't seem to mind being Kam's puppets. Kam praises her puppets as playing smart, but anyone not acting as her puppet is not playing smart lmao. Does she still think Brandon and Jasmine played smart?
I wish we were being shown more of the dynamic between Cara and Nicole. They're obviously both working with Jay. Additionally this challenge Cara paired with Jay instead of Ace, and then Ace paired with Nicole. So, is Ace also working with both of them? But then Nicole wanted assurance that Veronica isn't working with Cara, so presumably Nicole is after Cara. I haven't heard Cara mention Nicole as a target, though.
Good for Veronica getting herself out of elimination
But from a production standpoint I don't know if she should've been allowed to switch? She literally made up her mind and Jasmine went all the way back up the stairs
I think in the house he's a low key player, which I am sure is a nice reprieve from others. He's decent in challenges, too. He obviously isn't good TV, though, unless TPTB are just holding back footage like they clearly are with Flora.
I wish we were being shown more of the dynamic between Cara and Nicole. They're obviously both working with Jay. Additionally this challenge Cara paired with Jay instead of Ace, and then Ace paired with Nicole. So, is Ace also working with both of them? But then Nicole wanted assurance that Veronica isn't working with Cara, so presumably Nicole is after Cara. I haven't heard Cara mention Nicole as a target, though.
Nicole said everyone in the house wants Cara out (assume she means woman mostly) and Cara said that Nicole thinks everyone Cara talks to is in an alliance with her. The latter is why Nicole thought Veronica was working with Cara because Cara occasionally hung out with Rachel/Tina and by association V. V was correct to call it crazy because V has never liked Cara lol.
Ace is only working with Cara and the old school girls. Nicole was his partner by default because Cara took Jay who is normally Nicole's partner. But Nicole and Cara do not **** with each other since post-Vendettas, by their own admittance.
This is the first episode where we found out they get to pick their own partners, but it seems teams are still randomly selected?
I don't understand why they had everyone compete in part two.
There was only one team that got into the middle group that lost part one but it feels unnecessary. Like you lost what was the point in reaffirming that?
Good for Veronica getting herself out of elimination
But from a production standpoint I don't know if she should've been allowed to switch? She literally made up her mind and Jasmine went all the way back up the stairs
Lol, agreed, but its one of those moments I'm thankful the Challenge is technically a game show instead of a competiton. Doesn't have to be fair. But I don't blame production, they get another great iconic Veronica moment, and Veronica is so much more expanisve than Jasmine to book for these things. If I were production and I cast Veronica, I'd want my money's worth lol.
I also feel like this is justice because production should have totally allowed Jamie Murray to give his lifeshiled to Veronica on Battle of the Sexes, she wasn't allowed to keep it only because Jamie told Johnny Mosley off-camera before hand that he was giving it to Blair
really good episode, usually i zone out during the daily but i actually loved watching it
cara and kam having a queen off, by far the most dominant girls in the game with the most pull, both give zero ***** about getting people mad and will do whatever it takes to make moves that benefit them
Kam is just a much less entertaining version of Coral. Both are average competitors who people drastically overrate. Both think other people should do their bidding and whine when people don't. At least Coral was funny and could back up her mouth better than so called "killa" Kam.
Jasmine is probably the most pathetic recurring female challenger of all time. All bark, no bite. Hope she is never on my screen again.
Ooh you got me wet with this one. Yes! Also in general I want to know where Averey stands. We have no real clue who she's aligned with, where her heads at, etc. She's always winning dailies or in the middle group, too, so she should be highlighted more this season.
At least we got more Flora this episode!
Weren't you cussing out Killa for not knowing who Jo was and not watching older seasons just last night? Now you are going to pretend not to know the second most iconic Challenger?
Apparently Laurel told all the women in the house to target Cara, telling a bunch of them bad things about her. Ace told Cara about it towards the end of the season.
Flora brokered a deal for Nicole to save jasmine on the way to the elimination... wish we couldve seen more of their friendship. https://parade.com/tv/the-challenge-all-stars-season-4-jasmine-reynaud-eliminated-interview
Nicole was just able to change her mind wtff??? Cara was annoying as usual
Ha, Ace winning after Cara dropped him is ironic. She hurt his feelings for nothing.
T4P!
Jasmine says in there she is going through a bitter divorce and is a woman scorned. Now I get it!! Her bark has still always been much larger than her bite, but at least now I know why she always had an egde in her confessionals this season. I hope she'd found peace and a good vibrat*r!
Lastly Jasmine said Cara giving her the star did put a target on her back: "I took a shot. It didn't work. She took a shot. And she nailed it right on point." So, anyone saying Cara made a dumb move can su*k it.
Maybe my favorite part though lmao: "I wish people got to see how annoyed we all were with Laurel and Nicole. [Laughs.] We kept telling Nicole, "If you don't stop talking about her, don't come in this room again talking about that." [Laughs.]"
Love Jasmine <3
Yes! The episode title was great because at first glance you think it's just about Jasmine going home, but karma also bit her with Ace winning so it went both ways! Love it.
So glad we got Kefla on her screens for at least half a season!
It is stupid to say someone is playing a scared or selfish game when they're actually just playing smart. Getting a star and keeping it is the name of the game -- Cara is trying to make the moves to do that.
Nicole would do the same. And she's also playing what she called selfish and scared but is also smart by picking Jasmine over Veronica because Jasmine is an easier out. The irony in this episode is crazy lol.
Also loved Adam in the deliberation.
Yes. Ugh the main thing that bothers me across all of these competition shows is the contradictory statements people make. At least we heard Cara saying at the end that it's smart of people to try and get rid of her. That's her acknowledging things objectively.
More irony: if Kam hadn't turned on Cara, she would have been in this elim against Tina and have a star. Now, I think Kam made a smart boss move against Cara (albeit, for the wrong reasons) getting Brandon/Jasmine to vote in Cara, but it kind of shows how big moves too early can work against you.
See also: Wes vs Kenny, FM2
Kefla being out is the worst part of the episode. I do enjoy Steve honestly, but I wanted to see more of Kefla.
I loved this daily challenge
I feel like they've actually been coming up with challenges that are entertaining to watch
Laurel was so ******* annoyed with Brad LMAOOOO
Yeah big moves are all about situation and timing.
Having said that, if Rachel had beaten Cara in that random elimination, that also would have changed a lot and who knows what would be going on right now (Tina would have then had more protection, though).
I will give Kam credit for one thing; she managed to get Rachel out, and the blowback has been on Brandon and Jasmine who both immeditely went out. I don't think it was Kam's intention, but it worked out for her to a degree (though Cara blocked Kam's wish). At least Adam is onto it, but other people don't seem to mind being Kam's puppets. Kam praises her puppets as playing smart, but anyone not acting as her puppet is not playing smart lmao. Does she still think Brandon and Jasmine played smart?
I wish we were being shown more of the dynamic between Cara and Nicole. They're obviously both working with Jay. Additionally this challenge Cara paired with Jay instead of Ace, and then Ace paired with Nicole. So, is Ace also working with both of them? But then Nicole wanted assurance that Veronica isn't working with Cara, so presumably Nicole is after Cara. I haven't heard Cara mention Nicole as a target, though.
Good for Veronica getting herself out of elimination
But from a production standpoint I don't know if she should've been allowed to switch? She literally made up her mind and Jasmine went all the way back up the stairs
Why do people like Ace?
I think in the house he's a low key player, which I am sure is a nice reprieve from others. He's decent in challenges, too. He obviously isn't good TV, though, unless TPTB are just holding back footage like they clearly are with Flora.
Nicole said everyone in the house wants Cara out (assume she means woman mostly) and Cara said that Nicole thinks everyone Cara talks to is in an alliance with her. The latter is why Nicole thought Veronica was working with Cara because Cara occasionally hung out with Rachel/Tina and by association V. V was correct to call it crazy because V has never liked Cara lol.
Ace is only working with Cara and the old school girls. Nicole was his partner by default because Cara took Jay who is normally Nicole's partner. But Nicole and Cara do not **** with each other since post-Vendettas, by their own admittance.
This is the first episode where we found out they get to pick their own partners, but it seems teams are still randomly selected?
I don't understand why they had everyone compete in part two.
There was only one team that got into the middle group that lost part one but it feels unnecessary. Like you lost what was the point in reaffirming that?
Kefla and his wife got me cracking up.
Bring this man back!
Lol, agreed, but its one of those moments I'm thankful the Challenge is technically a game show instead of a competiton. Doesn't have to be fair. But I don't blame production, they get another great iconic Veronica moment, and Veronica is so much more expanisve than Jasmine to book for these things. If I were production and I cast Veronica, I'd want my money's worth lol.
I also feel like this is justice because production should have totally allowed Jamie Murray to give his lifeshiled to Veronica on Battle of the Sexes, she wasn't allowed to keep it only because Jamie told Johnny Mosley off-camera before hand that he was giving it to Blair
really good episode, usually i zone out during the daily but i actually loved watching it
cara and kam having a queen off, by far the most dominant girls in the game with the most pull, both give zero ***** about getting people mad and will do whatever it takes to make moves that benefit them
Nicole should not have been allowed to switch. The vote was finalized when she walked down there and Jasmine went to the stands.
There should not be any changes after that happens.
Kam is just a much less entertaining version of Coral. Both are average competitors who people drastically overrate. Both think other people should do their bidding and whine when people don't. At least Coral was funny and could back up her mouth better than so called "killa" Kam.
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