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Y'all cant convince some of these people aren't racist. 

They literally came up with a plan to pee on the seat to blame David for it but they aren't racist ? Get the **** out of here

They literally came up with a plan to pee on the seat to blame David for it but they aren't racist ? Get the **** out of here

they wanna do what now

David’s read on the game is incredible 

They literally came up with a plan to pee on the seat to blame David for it but they aren't racist ? Get the **** out of here

All it's doing is exposing what these cave people do in real life. If nothing else, BB tells the "tea" of how these trailer park trashcans operate outside of the house but stay playing victim & stay with the narrative that AA folks & other darker races are "aggressive".

Kevin1977 right along with him with his bedwench of a "wife". Lol

RLK is the real-life Amelia Bedelia & any time spent explaining anything deeper than a cheap *** Wal-Mart kiddie pool would be an all-day task. Pay no mind to the ***** that gets free Green Bay / Baseball tickets from her disability & needs to be accompanied everywhere she goes holding hands with her adult sitter.

Don't insult Amelia Bedelia like ****...*** had charm.

They literally came up with a plan to pee on the seat to blame David for it but they aren't racist ? Get the **** out of here

Wait...what? Why? What would be the point in that? He isn’t even in the game...they just want to be awful people for what reason? Obviously we can’t know for a fact if it would have been the same result if it was Cliff another white returning but it is highly sus. And after watching all of When They See Us today on a plane today, I now understand why Graphik and others question situations the way they do. I would like to think I live in a world where not everything is racially motivated and that is why I defend some situations hoping that it has nothing to do with race. RLK, KVM, and even myself at times I think we should stop trying to discredit the feelings of minorities. Black people still deal with a lot of prejudices every day. The best way for us to combat it is to just by not being racist and calling out racist situations. I think this constant defense of every white person is just a really bad look.

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I’m not guaranteeing that he isn’t a racist but I just don’t get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn’t. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

Kemi can’t make a sandwich and David can’t even pee. Issa sad world

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

please catch highlights of the feeds or watch them, you’ll never get the facts from the episodes. He’s done a lot to prove he’s a shitty person. 

“You’re not on Bravo or BET” - Jackson about David. Big YIKES!

The shape really decided to become worse that Aquatrash huh.

 

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I’m not guaranteeing that he isn’t a racist but I just don’t get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn’t. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

 

 

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

 

 

 

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

Jackson's gameplay, not Jack's, asbolutely was strategic with the 4 selections.  Jack may be an idiot.  I don't know what his plan is but it will probably be dumb.   He has to take out a female now and ideally a strong one given the women outnumber the men.  If he's dumb enough to put a guy up the women better come together.

 

 

 

 

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

Jackson's gameplay, not Jack's, asbolutely was strategic with the 4 selections.  Jack may be an idiot.  I don't know what his plan is but it will probably be dumb.   He has to take out a female now and ideally a strong one given the women outnumber the men.  If he's dumb enough to put a guy up the women better come together.

Jackson's nominees weren't strategic either, he picked the basic first boot nominees the minorities and the old guy. His reasons for them was because they asked to be camp counselor too but during the process of the show and on the feeds he's proving his choices were more personal than anything. Jackson and Jack are playng way too personal.

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

Jackson's gameplay, not Jack's, asbolutely was strategic with the 4 selections.  Jack may be an idiot.  I don't know what his plan is but it will probably be dumb.   He has to take out a female now and ideally a strong one given the women outnumber the men.  If he's dumb enough to put a guy up the women better come together.

Jackson's nominees weren't strategic either, he picked the basic first boot nominees the minorities and the old guy. His reasons for them was because they asked to be camp counselor too but during the process of the show and on the feeds he's proving his choices were more personal than anything. Jackson and Jack are playng way too personal.

Yes, they were.   It is very strategic to put up the other 3 that wanted the power.  That's BB 101.   The fact you refer to that as minorites and the old guy is you reaching to create something that doesn't exist.  This is the problem.   Jackson and Jack may be playing a "too personal" game at this point but anyone that complains about him putting up the black guy, the hispanic girl and the old guy loses credibility.  If you want to complain about Kemi as the 4th that's fine though it would make sense to put up the person that talked to you the least early.  

If you want to focus on everything after those initial nominations I'm cool with that but criticizing him ptting up the other 3 that wanted power doesn't make any sense.  It's exactly what I would have done if given the power regardless of who the other people were.   You have to make decisions like that early in the game.

 

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

Jackson's gameplay, not Jack's, asbolutely was strategic with the 4 selections.  Jack may be an idiot.  I don't know what his plan is but it will probably be dumb.   He has to take out a female now and ideally a strong one given the women outnumber the men.  If he's dumb enough to put a guy up the women better come together.

Jackson's nominees weren't strategic either, he picked the basic first boot nominees the minorities and the old guy. His reasons for them was because they asked to be camp counselor too but during the process of the show and on the feeds he's proving his choices were more personal than anything. Jackson and Jack are playng way too personal.

Yes, they were.   It is very strategic to put up the other 3 that wanted the power.  That's BB 101.   The fact you refer to that as minorites and the old guy is you reaching to create something that doesn't exist.  This is the problem.   Jackson and Jack may be playing a "too personal" game at this point but anyone that complains about him putting up the black guy, the hispanic girl and the old guy loses credibility.  If you want to complain about Kemi as the 4th that's fine though it would make sense to put up the person that talked to you the least early.  

If you want to focus on everything after those initial nominations I'm cool with that but criticizing him ptting up the other 3 that wanted power doesn't make any sense.  It's exactly what I would have done if given the power regardless of who the other people were.   You have to make decisions like that early in the game.

At first, I didn't think race or anything had to do with Jackson's nominees at all. All I'm saying is the way he talks about the people of color in the house, makes it sound like his nominees were personal especially hearing his comments about Jess & David who had done nothing wrong to him. Also Jack  (Jackson's biggest ally) having personal vendettas against Ovi & Kemi it just comes off as excuses to target them. I respected their games at first but even Jackson has come off too much, the fact him and his alliance are planning on peeing on the bathroom floor just to blame David to get the house to hate him, is way extreme of an idea to just want someone to look bad if it's just a game and it's personal because David's not even in the game. Their actions today strongly effect their actions in the start. I don't think they see it as racism but they're pretty ******* harsh

Also I just don't see it as a conicidence that he targeted the minorities because they wanted the power then after nominating them, he takes personal jabs and verbal attacks at all of them throughout the game and none of them has disrespected him or talked him down even after he nominated them. It comes off as super personal to a point the DR of BB told him to stop with the David bashing because it's coming off as racist and just overall worse than what it should be and if production has a problem with them talking like that, you know it's bad. I try not to make things about race but the more he talks the more it comes off that race had something to do with things.

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

Jackson's gameplay, not Jack's, asbolutely was strategic with the 4 selections.  Jack may be an idiot.  I don't know what his plan is but it will probably be dumb.   He has to take out a female now and ideally a strong one given the women outnumber the men.  If he's dumb enough to put a guy up the women better come together.

Jackson's nominees weren't strategic either, he picked the basic first boot nominees the minorities and the old guy. His reasons for them was because they asked to be camp counselor too but during the process of the show and on the feeds he's proving his choices were more personal than anything. Jackson and Jack are playng way too personal.

Yes, they were.   It is very strategic to put up the other 3 that wanted the power.  That's BB 101.   The fact you refer to that as minorites and the old guy is you reaching to create something that doesn't exist.  This is the problem.   Jackson and Jack may be playing a "too personal" game at this point but anyone that complains about him putting up the black guy, the hispanic girl and the old guy loses credibility.  If you want to complain about Kemi as the 4th that's fine though it would make sense to put up the person that talked to you the least early.  

If you want to focus on everything after those initial nominations I'm cool with that but criticizing him ptting up the other 3 that wanted power doesn't make any sense.  It's exactly what I would have done if given the power regardless of who the other people were.   You have to make decisions like that early in the game.

At first, I didn't think race or anything had to do with Jackson's nominees at all. All I'm saying is the way he talks about the people of color in the house, makes it sound like his nominees were personal especially hearing his comments about Jess & David who had done nothing wrong to him. Also Jack  (Jackson's biggest ally) having personal vendettas against Ovi & Kemi it just comes off as excuses to target them. I respected their games at first but even Jackson has come off too much, the fact him and his alliance are planning on peeing on the bathroom floor just to blame David to get the house to hate him, is way extreme of an idea to just want someone to look bad if it's just a game and it's personal because David's not even in the game. Their actions today strongly effect their actions in the start. I don't think they see it as racism but they're pretty ******* harsh

Also I just don't see it as a conicidence that he targeted the minorities because they wanted the power then after nominating them, he takes personal jabs and verbal attacks at all of them throughout the game and none of them has disrespected him or talked him down even after he nominated them. It comes off as super personal to a point the DR of BB told him to stop with the David bashing because it's coming off as racist and just overall worse than what it should be and if production has a problem with them talking like that, you know it's bad. I try not to make things about race but the more he talks the more it comes off that race had something to do with things.

If we're being honest...everything is turned into a race issue these days.  Or a sexist issue.  Or an age issue.  Or some issue.  People love to be offended in 2019 and CBS is well aware of this based on past seasons and are likely just trying to stop things before they get worse.  See Nike with the Betty Ross flag--both sides are insane.

I'm not saying Jack and Jackson are good people or they aren't racists.  We honestly don't know enough about them to make that judgment.  I'm saying that first game move makes sense.  Since then, by all means, feel free to attack them if you think the evidence supports it.  Personally, I just think Jack's an idiot that will eventually attack everyone.  He wrongly believes he's superior to everyone in that house other than Jackson.   I do think if anyone is racist Jack's more likely than Jackson but maybe both are.  We need to know more about them before we know for sure.

"Apparently the comments that got Jackson in trouble in the DR was the mule kicking David in the teeth, and saying smJessica should go play on traffic and go back to Mexico, that's where her sequester house is."

someone posted this on reddit. apparently Jackson got in trouble and came out of the DR crying because of some of the things he said, the above being some of them. i haven't seen the footage myself so obviously i can't say with certainty that it's true but i've seen multiple people talk about the mule thing so it most likely is. and yes people still keep pretending like racism doesn't exist anymore. 

That victim turned on QUICK lmaoooooooo how TF are you crying over some shit you said? Little bitch. Lol

"Apparently the comments that got Jackson in trouble in the DR was the mule kicking David in the teeth, and saying smJessica should go play on traffic and go back to Mexico, that's where her sequester house is."

someone posted this on reddit. apparently Jackson got in trouble and came out of the DR crying because of some of the things he said, the above being some of them. i haven't seen the footage myself so obviously i can't say with certainty that it's true but i've seen multiple people talk about the mule thing so it most likely is. and yes people still keep pretending like racism doesn't exist anymore. 

Racism obviously still exits but how is a mule kicking him in the teeth a racist saying?  "Go back to Mexico" is definitely racist.

That victim turned on QUICK lmaoooooooo how TF are you crying over some **** you said? Little *****.

And, shockingly, we agree on this.  If you said something you can't cry about it

 

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

Jackson's gameplay, not Jack's, asbolutely was strategic with the 4 selections.  Jack may be an idiot.  I don't know what his plan is but it will probably be dumb.   He has to take out a female now and ideally a strong one given the women outnumber the men.  If he's dumb enough to put a guy up the women better come together.

Jackson's nominees weren't strategic either, he picked the basic first boot nominees the minorities and the old guy. His reasons for them was because they asked to be camp counselor too but during the process of the show and on the feeds he's proving his choices were more personal than anything. Jackson and Jack are playng way too personal.

Yes, they were.   It is very strategic to put up the other 3 that wanted the power.  That's BB 101.   The fact you refer to that as minorites and the old guy is you reaching to create something that doesn't exist.  This is the problem.   Jackson and Jack may be playing a "too personal" game at this point but anyone that complains about him putting up the black guy, the hispanic girl and the old guy loses credibility.  If you want to complain about Kemi as the 4th that's fine though it would make sense to put up the person that talked to you the least early.  

If you want to focus on everything after those initial nominations I'm cool with that but criticizing him ptting up the other 3 that wanted power doesn't make any sense.  It's exactly what I would have done if given the power regardless of who the other people were.   You have to make decisions like that early in the game.

At first, I didn't think race or anything had to do with Jackson's nominees at all. All I'm saying is the way he talks about the people of color in the house, makes it sound like his nominees were personal especially hearing his comments about Jess & David who had done nothing wrong to him. Also Jack  (Jackson's biggest ally) having personal vendettas against Ovi & Kemi it just comes off as excuses to target them. I respected their games at first but even Jackson has come off too much, the fact him and his alliance are planning on peeing on the bathroom floor just to blame David to get the house to hate him, is way extreme of an idea to just want someone to look bad if it's just a game and it's personal because David's not even in the game. Their actions today strongly effect their actions in the start. I don't think they see it as racism but they're pretty ******* harsh

Also I just don't see it as a conicidence that he targeted the minorities because they wanted the power then after nominating them, he takes personal jabs and verbal attacks at all of them throughout the game and none of them has disrespected him or talked him down even after he nominated them. It comes off as super personal to a point the DR of BB told him to stop with the David bashing because it's coming off as racist and just overall worse than what it should be and if production has a problem with them talking like that, you know it's bad. I try not to make things about race but the more he talks the more it comes off that race had something to do with things.

If we're being honest...everything is turned into a race issue these days.  Or a sexist issue.  Or an age issue.  Or some issue.  People love to be offended in 2019 and CBS is well aware of this based on past seasons and are likely just trying to stop things before they get worse.

I'm not saying Jack and Jackson are good people or they aren't racists.  We honestly don't know enough about them to make that judgment.  I'm saying that first game move makes sense.  Since then, by all means, feel free to attack them if you think the evidence supports it.  Personally, I just think Jack's an idiot that will eventually attack everyone.  He wrongly believes he's superior to everyone in that house other than Jackson.   I do think if anyone is racist he's more likely than Jackson but maybe both are.  We need to know more about that,

I'm still sticking by what I said, I agreed with his moves at first but then his actions in the future shown those moves were more personal than we thought. It's like finding someone you thought was cool or a decent person is actually prejudice or hateful, at first and you start to overthink and question things they did prior to these new actions. It makes sense to think that way, not saying I'm right or I know this guy on a personal level but we do have cameras watching and recording him 24/7 so I have some kind of idea. So, I do have every right to question his past actions to his current ones because they all play in effect somehow. Also, I hate when people say things like "People love to be offended in 2019" people always have gotten offended in America, this is the same country where people got offended decades ago because they had to share a water fountain with a black person or the same country that got offended because they showed interracial relationships on TV. The only reason it seems more people are offended today is because we have the internet and everyone has a voice to complain and rant about everyone and everything but let's not act like people are extra offended today when people were offended over the most ridiculous things in the past. There's always been sexist issues, age issues, race issues, etc. just now the people suffering from these issues have the power to speak and be heard, thanks to the internet because back in the day everything would slide. Hence why the internet has helped the #MeToo movement. I get where you're coming from though so I agree with you to an extent on things.

 

"Apparently the comments that got Jackson in trouble in the DR was the mule kicking David in the teeth, and saying smJessica should go play on traffic and go back to Mexico, that's where her sequester house is."

someone posted this on reddit. apparently Jackson got in trouble and came out of the DR crying because of some of the things he said, the above being some of them. i haven't seen the footage myself so obviously i can't say with certainty that it's true but i've seen multiple people talk about the mule thing so it most likely is. and yes people still keep pretending like racism doesn't exist anymore. 

Racism obviously still exits but how is a mule kicking him in the teeth a racist saying?  "Go back to Mexico" is definitely racist.

he's literally been in that house for like less than 24 hours, why else would you even want a mule kicking him in the teeth? definitely not for game reasons because what could David even do to mess up their games? like it's very clear to me. 

I don't think anyone is defending "every white people".  I think Jack is an idiot and a horrible human but I don't know that he's racist simply because he's targeting people that aren't on his side or thinks Bella needs to go eventually because Bella is a threat down the road.  

This whole "pee situation" doesn't even make sense.  It's just dumb

And who are the people he decided not to have on his side? ALL THE MINORITIES . I'm not guaranteeing that he isn't a racist but I just don't get why you are so hellbent on arguing that he isn't. For someone you are agreeing is an awful person you are doing a whole lot of defending of him. 

He may be racist but stating someone is based on the case that is being made is questionable at best. Where did I defend Jack? I defend Jackson's nominees as gameplay which I stand by 

I would respect Jack and his alliance more if they had ACTUAL strategic reasons to target the people of color but they're trying to force targets on some of these people. Last week, we saw him force Kemi to be a replacement nominee for no strategic reason at all just based on a personal vendetta because she didn't like his cooking. His alliance personally found Bella, Ovi & Jessica annoying for ridiculous reasons that's not even all that serious to target them. Now David is back in the house and his alliance is plotting to make everyone hate him by them trying to pee on the bathroom floor and blame that on him. Also him and his alliance are going around the house, speaking on how the people of color are making them uncomfortable to get others to dislike them as well. BB15 was racist but they had more valid reasons to vote out the people of color on their season and that says a lot, this season they're trying to force targets on them because they can and it seems way more personal. I get you respect Jack's gameplay and his possible nominees but he's not playing a strategic game at all. It'll bite him in the *** soon.

Jackson's gameplay, not Jack's, asbolutely was strategic with the 4 selections.  Jack may be an idiot.  I don't know what his plan is but it will probably be dumb.   He has to take out a female now and ideally a strong one given the women outnumber the men.  If he's dumb enough to put a guy up the women better come together.

Jackson's nominees weren't strategic either, he picked the basic first boot nominees the minorities and the old guy. His reasons for them was because they asked to be camp counselor too but during the process of the show and on the feeds he's proving his choices were more personal than anything. Jackson and Jack are playng way too personal.

Yes, they were.   It is very strategic to put up the other 3 that wanted the power.  That's BB 101.   The fact you refer to that as minorites and the old guy is you reaching to create something that doesn't exist.  This is the problem.   Jackson and Jack may be playing a "too personal" game at this point but anyone that complains about him putting up the black guy, the hispanic girl and the old guy loses credibility.  If you want to complain about Kemi as the 4th that's fine though it would make sense to put up the person that talked to you the least early.  

If you want to focus on everything after those initial nominations I'm cool with that but criticizing him ptting up the other 3 that wanted power doesn't make any sense.  It's exactly what I would have done if given the power regardless of who the other people were.   You have to make decisions like that early in the game.

At first, I didn't think race or anything had to do with Jackson's nominees at all. All I'm saying is the way he talks about the people of color in the house, makes it sound like his nominees were personal especially hearing his comments about Jess & David who had done nothing wrong to him. Also Jack  (Jackson's biggest ally) having personal vendettas against Ovi & Kemi it just comes off as excuses to target them. I respected their games at first but even Jackson has come off too much, the fact him and his alliance are planning on peeing on the bathroom floor just to blame David to get the house to hate him, is way extreme of an idea to just want someone to look bad if it's just a game and it's personal because David's not even in the game. Their actions today strongly effect their actions in the start. I don't think they see it as racism but they're pretty ******* harsh

Also I just don't see it as a conicidence that he targeted the minorities because they wanted the power then after nominating them, he takes personal jabs and verbal attacks at all of them throughout the game and none of them has disrespected him or talked him down even after he nominated them. It comes off as super personal to a point the DR of BB told him to stop with the David bashing because it's coming off as racist and just overall worse than what it should be and if production has a problem with them talking like that, you know it's bad. I try not to make things about race but the more he talks the more it comes off that race had something to do with things.

If we're being honest...everything is turned into a race issue these days.  Or a sexist issue.  Or an age issue.  Or some issue.  People love to be offended in 2019 and CBS is well aware of this based on past seasons and are likely just trying to stop things before they get worse.

I'm not saying Jack and Jackson are good people or they aren't racists.  We honestly don't know enough about them to make that judgment.  I'm saying that first game move makes sense.  Since then, by all means, feel free to attack them if you think the evidence supports it.  Personally, I just think Jack's an idiot that will eventually attack everyone.  He wrongly believes he's superior to everyone in that house other than Jackson.   I do think if anyone is racist he's more likely than Jackson but maybe both are.  We need to know more about that,

I'm still sticking by what I said, I agreed with his moves at first but then his actions in the future shown those moves were more personal than we thought. It's like finding someone you thought was cool or a decent person is actually prejudice or hateful, at first and you start to overthink and question things they did prior to these new actions. It makes sense to think that way, not saying I'm right or I know this guy on a personal level but we do have cameras watching and recording him 24/7 so I have some kind of idea. So, I do have every right to question his past actions to his current ones because they all play in effect somehow. Also, I hate when people say things like "People love to be offended in 2019" people always have gotten offended in America, this is the same country where people got offended decades ago because they had to share a water fountain with a black person or the same country that got offended because they showed interracial relationships on TV. The only reason it seems more people are offended today is because we have the internet and everyone has a voice to complain and rant about everyone and everything but let's not act like people are extra offended today when people were offended over the most ridiculous things in the past. There's always been sexist issues, age issues, race issues, etc. just now the people suffering from these issues have the power to speak and be heard, thanks to the internet because back in the day everything would slide. Hence why the internet has helped the #MeToo movement. I get where you're coming from though so I agree with you to an extent on things.

Fair enough regarding both aspects

i'm glad the DR is calling them out too. as much fun as watching them get exposed and then scolded by social media when they get out of the house would be, i don't want Kemi, David, Jessica, etc. being miserable just so we can see their true colors. though they will probably go back to being trash like, probably in a few hours if not sooner. 

"Apparently the comments that got Jackson in trouble in the DR was the mule kicking David in the teeth, and saying smJessica should go play on traffic and go back to Mexico, that's where her sequester house is."

someone posted this on reddit. apparently Jackson got in trouble and came out of the DR crying because of some of the things he said, the above being some of them. i haven't seen the footage myself so obviously i can't say with certainty that it's true but i've seen multiple people talk about the mule thing so it most likely is. and yes people still keep pretending like racism doesn't exist anymore. 

Racism obviously still exits but how is a mule kicking him in the teeth a racist saying?  "Go back to Mexico" is definitely racist.

he's literally been in that house for like less than 24 hours, why else would you even want a mule kicking him in the teeth? definitely not for game reasons because what could David even do to mess up their games? like it's very clear to me. 

That's an assumption though--are you telling me you've never met anyone that you couldn't stand after just a few hours let alone having to live with them and play a game for 500k?  I mean, my wife and I went out with my buddy,, his new girlfriend and a few other friends recently.  Trust me, lots of things were said about her (I'd be fine with a mule kicking her in the teeth or anywhere on her body)--maybe not all fair but a first impression is lasting and it is possible, regardless of his race, David made a bad first impression.

Now, would I say that if I knew I was being filmed....no.  These people have to be smarter.

i'm glad the DR is calling them out too. as much fun as watching them get exposed and then scolded by social media when they get out of the house would be, i don't want Kemi, David, Jessica, etc. being miserable just so we can see their true colors. though they will probably go back to being trash like, probably in a few hours if not sooner. 

Now, this is where we disagree--reality shows are about dealing with "real people"...production shouldn't be altering who they are.  If they're as bad as they're being made out to be a lot can be learned from that by the viewers and by them when they see just how bad they look.   This goes back to some wanting Camila removed for being a racist which doesn't make any sense.  Who should hide racists, setxist, ageists, etc or it pushes the theory that there aren't real issues.  Just crazy people pretending things exist when they don't

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