Big Brother 17: Spoilers and Live Feed Discussion

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I changed my mind I think not only does Vanessa deserve to win but she should also get a Emmy because this ***** ain't going home and now she got James believing everything that comes out her mouth.

"Vanessa wouldn't lie about that!"

and yes, lets target becky, steve and john who.. arent going to go after you like at all (ahem. Vanessa- austin-twins)  and get them out just so your #s get lower.

When becky steve and john go they will be out numbered and we know one of them cant win comps for her life...

and vanessa's great at mind comps, liz/julia at other ones. 

In terms of cognitive ability, this has to be the lowest functioning cast of all time. 

You couldn't be more wrong...nothing is worse than when fans criticize players because they player isn't getting rid of the person they want to see taken out

The only person that should want Vanessa out over Shelli is Becky...and Becky doesn't have a vote.

Everyone knows Vanessa's game because these people actually understand the game--you know exactly how she's a threat--there's plenty of time to deal with her.  Both Vanessa & Shelli are threats in comps--Shelli might be the bigger comp threat.

KVM you've done it. I finally agree with you 100%. I'm over the fickle *** fans this year. 

and John. 

i agree as well. personally, i want vanessa gone because im not a fan.

game wise, i think its in everyones best interst to keep vanessa.

 

James/Austin are figuring out a way to cheat if the HoH comp is true/false or A/B. James says they can cough to signal which to choose

 

Wow.

James/Austin are figuring out a way to cheat if the HoH comp is true/false or A/B. James says they can cough to signal which to choose

 

Wow.

I'd be doing the same thing

I agree that this season has seen better casting as game players in years, but damn they just aren't interesting to watch as characters or engaging people imo. It's really stopping me from really getting into it, which sucks. I suppose for people who only watch for game, it's great though.

In terms of cognitive ability, this has to be the lowest functioning cast of all time. 

You couldn't be more wrong...nothing is worse than when fans criticize players because that player isn't getting rid of the person they want to see taken out

The only person that should want Vanessa out over Shelli is Becky...and Becky doesn't have a vote.

Everyone knows Vanessa's game because these people (for the most part--unlike past seasons) actually understand the game--you know exactly how she's a threat--there's plenty of time to deal with her.  Both Vanessa & Shelli are threats in comps--Shelli might be the bigger comp threat.

Since you replied to my post, I'm assuming your comment was directed toward me.  I'm fairly certain that I've never criticized a particular player or indicated that I want any single individual out of the game.  It would appear as though you have a tendency to recklessly spew faulty assumptions and hasty generalizations with little knowledge and zero evidence to support your claims. 

Unlike you, I'm not a fan of or root for any player in particular (I know you claim to be as well, but it is obvious to everyone when you become over-fixated on a topic or particular player).  I'm simply a fan of gameplay, and quite frankly, it has been pretty darn sloppy this season.......it just has!  I actually like the fact the people are actually starting to think on their own for a change. 

You've shown time and time again that you have little ability to remain objective on a topic and will continually repeat yourself or attack to try and prove a point to someone......even if there is really no point to be made.  The only thing I am certain of at this point, is that if you were cast for the show, you would undoubtedly spearhead a "Clown Town" or "Goof Troop" alliance that would be literal in nature. 

James/Austin are figuring out a way to cheat if the HoH comp is true/false or A/B. James says they can cough to signal which to choose

 

Wow.

I'd be doing the same thing

Now that they said it out loud though, Production will be looking out for it

Jackie, James and Meg underestimate the power of Vanessa- they are saying that she wouldn't lie and that she isn't close to to the Austwins.

They also want to get John/Becky/Steve out- or so they say; which would be kind of idiotic since its numbers FOR THEM and which they will need once it gets to smaller numbers.

 

ALSO LMao at how no one is targetting the twins. Like i know they aren't playing much but they must know they have the Strongest loyalty alliance wise in the house. Better to get one of them out sooner than later

Okay, is it just me...Does anyone else find it equally frustrating and amusing how off base Austin when he starts talking about what\who we (the viewers) must like...

He was certain we COULDN'T like Day - she was #1 in viewer poll that week and has remained popular in polls like if one player could be returned to the game who would you choose...   Thinks viewers would prefer him & Liz over Clay & Shelli - gag at either really but that is just me... with my friends his creep factor alone makes that a strong NO! In his defense we do have the benefit of knowing how hard Liz is playing him but still ewww!!   Thinks viewers must have been grateful that Jason was evicted because he was sooo annoying....ummm no honey - this week Jason is still #3 with viewers...yes 2 weeks after being evicted! Austin is consistently in bottom three! That Johnny-mac isn't funny... I love his into the camera asides and diary room commentary on the other houseguests - I think he is the ONLY one left that you laugh with - his comments regarding Clay being nervous on the block were priceless!

Personal ps - KVM miss you! Kiss 2

 

In terms of cognitive ability, this has to be the lowest functioning cast of all time. 

You couldn't be more wrong...nothing is worse than when fans criticize players because that player isn't getting rid of the person they want to see taken out

The only person that should want Vanessa out over Shelli is Becky...and Becky doesn't have a vote.

Everyone knows Vanessa's game because these people (for the most part--unlike past seasons) actually understand the game--you know exactly how she's a threat--there's plenty of time to deal with her.  Both Vanessa & Shelli are threats in comps--Shelli might be the bigger comp threat.

Since you replied to my post, I'm assuming your comment was directed toward me.  I'm fairly certain that I've never criticized a particular player or indicated that I want any single individual out of the game.  It would appear as though you have a tendency to recklessly spew faulty assumptions and hasty generalizations with little knowledge and zero evidence to support your claims. 

Unlike you, I'm not a fan of or root for any player in particular (I know you claim to be as well, but it is obvious to everyone when you become over-fixated on a topic or particular player).  I'm simply a fan of gameplay, and quite frankly, it has been pretty darn sloppy this season.......it just has!  I actually like the fact the people are actually starting to think on their own for a change. 

You've shown time and time again that you have little ability to remain objective on a topic and will continually repeat yourself or attack to try and prove a point to someone......even if there is really no point to be made.  The only thing I am certain of at this point, is that if you were cast for the show, you would undoubtedly spearhead a "Clown Town" or "Goof Troop" alliance that would be literal in nature. 

This is beyond bullshit.  I actually can't stand Vanessa as a person but if you're watching for game play, as you claim, then you'd understand why these people are actually THINKING if they keep her in the house.  Other than that simple reply you're not worth my time. 

Okay, is it just me...Does anyone else find it equally frustrating and amusing how off base Austin when he starts talking about what\who we (the viewers) must like...

He was certain we COULDN'T like Day - she was #1 in viewer poll that week and has remained popular in polls like if one player could be returned to the game who would you choose...   Thinks viewers would prefer him & Liz over Clay & Shelli - gag at either really but that is just me... with my friends his creep factor alone makes that a strong NO! In his defense we do have the benefit of knowing how hard Liz is playing him but still ewww!!   Thinks viewers must have been grateful that Jason was evicted because he was sooo annoying....ummm no honey - this week Jason is still #3 with viewers...yes 2 weeks after being evicted! Austin is consistently in bottom three! That Johnny-mac isn't funny... I love his into the camera asides and diary room commentary on the other houseguests - I think he is the ONLY one left that you laugh with - his comments regarding Clay being nervous on the block were priceless!

Personal ps - KVM miss you! Kiss 2

 

LOL--miss you too

The only thing he said that makes sense is him thinking people couldn't stand Jason.  I couldn't from day one.  I think fans like Jason because he was an underdog not because of his personality but I could be wrong

Shelli is throwing Vanessa, Austin, and the Twins under the bus to save herself. Smart move but not sure it'll work.

In terms of cognitive ability, this has to be the lowest functioning cast of all time. 

You couldn't be more wrong...nothing is worse than when fans criticize players because that player isn't getting rid of the person they want to see taken out

The only person that should want Vanessa out over Shelli is Becky...and Becky doesn't have a vote.

Everyone knows Vanessa's game because these people (for the most part--unlike past seasons) actually understand the game--you know exactly how she's a threat--there's plenty of time to deal with her.  Both Vanessa & Shelli are threats in comps--Shelli might be the bigger comp threat.

Since you replied to my post, I'm assuming your comment was directed toward me.  I'm fairly certain that I've never criticized a particular player or indicated that I want any single individual out of the game.  It would appear as though you have a tendency to recklessly spew faulty assumptions and hasty generalizations with little knowledge and zero evidence to support your claims. 

Unlike you, I'm not a fan of or root for any player in particular (I know you claim to be as well, but it is obvious to everyone when you become over-fixated on a topic or particular player).  I'm simply a fan of gameplay, and quite frankly, it has been pretty darn sloppy this season.......it just has!  I actually like the fact the people are actually starting to think on their own for a change. 

You've shown time and time again that you have little ability to remain objective on a topic and will continually repeat yourself or attack to try and prove a point to someone......even if there is really no point to be made.  The only thing I am certain of at this point, is that if you were cast for the show, you would undoubtedly spearhead a "Clown Town" or "Goof Troop" alliance that would be literal in nature. 

This is beyond bullshit.  I actually can't stand Vanessa as a person but if you're watching for game play, as you claim, then you'd understand why these people are actually THINKING if they keep her in the house.  Other than that simple reply you're not worth my time. 

Apparently, basic reading comprehension isn't a strength. If you would've read my post, I indicated that "I actually LIKE the fact that people are actually starting to THINK on their own for a change."  It's really that simple, but thanks for restating my point. 

In terms of cognitive ability, this has to be the lowest functioning cast of all time. 

You couldn't be more wrong...nothing is worse than when fans criticize players because that player isn't getting rid of the person they want to see taken out

The only person that should want Vanessa out over Shelli is Becky...and Becky doesn't have a vote.

Everyone knows Vanessa's game because these people (for the most part--unlike past seasons) actually understand the game--you know exactly how she's a threat--there's plenty of time to deal with her.  Both Vanessa & Shelli are threats in comps--Shelli might be the bigger comp threat.

Since you replied to my post, I'm assuming your comment was directed toward me.  I'm fairly certain that I've never criticized a particular player or indicated that I want any single individual out of the game.  It would appear as though you have a tendency to recklessly spew faulty assumptions and hasty generalizations with little knowledge and zero evidence to support your claims. 

Unlike you, I'm not a fan of or root for any player in particular (I know you claim to be as well, but it is obvious to everyone when you become over-fixated on a topic or particular player).  I'm simply a fan of gameplay, and quite frankly, it has been pretty darn sloppy this season.......it just has!  I actually like the fact the people are actually starting to think on their own for a change. 

You've shown time and time again that you have little ability to remain objective on a topic and will continually repeat yourself or attack to try and prove a point to someone......even if there is really no point to be made.  The only thing I am certain of at this point, is that if you were cast for the show, you would undoubtedly spearhead a "Clown Town" or "Goof Troop" alliance that would be literal in nature. 

This is beyond bullshit.  I actually can't stand Vanessa as a person but if you're watching for game play, as you claim, then you'd understand why these people are actually THINKING if they keep her in the house.  Other than that simple reply you're not worth my time. 

Apparently, basic reading comprehension isn't a strength. If you would've read my post, I indicated that "I actually LIKE the fact that people are actually starting to THINK on their own for a change."  It's really that simple, but thanks for restating my point. 

Read all the words in both comments...stop & think...then read them again...if you're still confused...well, you probably will be

In terms of cognitive ability, this has to be the lowest functioning cast of all time. 

You couldn't be more wrong...nothing is worse than when fans criticize players because that player isn't getting rid of the person they want to see taken out

The only person that should want Vanessa out over Shelli is Becky...and Becky doesn't have a vote.

Everyone knows Vanessa's game because these people (for the most part--unlike past seasons) actually understand the game--you know exactly how she's a threat--there's plenty of time to deal with her.  Both Vanessa & Shelli are threats in comps--Shelli might be the bigger comp threat.

Since you replied to my post, I'm assuming your comment was directed toward me.  I'm fairly certain that I've never criticized a particular player or indicated that I want any single individual out of the game.  It would appear as though you have a tendency to recklessly spew faulty assumptions and hasty generalizations with little knowledge and zero evidence to support your claims. 

Unlike you, I'm not a fan of or root for any player in particular (I know you claim to be as well, but it is obvious to everyone when you become over-fixated on a topic or particular player).  I'm simply a fan of gameplay, and quite frankly, it has been pretty darn sloppy this season.......it just has!  I actually like the fact the people are actually starting to think on their own for a change. 

You've shown time and time again that you have little ability to remain objective on a topic and will continually repeat yourself or attack to try and prove a point to someone......even if there is really no point to be made.  The only thing I am certain of at this point, is that if you were cast for the show, you would undoubtedly spearhead a "Clown Town" or "Goof Troop" alliance that would be literal in nature. 

This is beyond bullshit.  I actually can't stand Vanessa as a person but if you're watching for game play, as you claim, then you'd understand why these people are actually THINKING if they keep her in the house.  Other than that simple reply you're not worth my time. 

Apparently, basic reading comprehension isn't a strength. If you would've read my post, I indicated that "I actually LIKE the fact that people are actually starting to THINK on their own for a change."  It's really that simple, but thanks for restating my point. 

Read all the words in both comments...stop & think...then read them again...if you're still confused...well, you probably will be

To summarize:

Lowest functioning cast of all time....my opinion!

I want to see Vanessa taken out...your false assumption.

I enjoy gameplay....fact.

I like that people are FINALLY starting to think on their own....fact.

My THINKING comment goes right over your head...fact.

I restate my stance as it pertains to Vanessa...fact.

You're in denial and refuse to admit you jumped the gun on how I view the game...fact.

This pretty much sums it up.  

 

Sounds like even Becky has accepted that Vanessa will stay

Things can change quickly though as we know

Sounds like even Becky has accepted that Vanessa will stay

Things can change quickly though as we know

Yeah they can, look how quickly we became jury Sad

Sounds like even Becky has accepted that Vanessa will stay

Things can change quickly though as we know

Yeah they can, look how quickly we became jury Sad

******* twist and mitch not voting

Sounds like even Becky has accepted that Vanessa will stay

Things can change quickly though as we know

I need to learn to never get excited about someone going home with this cast.

Sounds like even Becky has accepted that Vanessa will stay

Things can change quickly though as we know

I need to learn to never get excited about someone going home with this cast.

Vanessa staying is honestly good for those that watch for game play....I don't think she has any chance to win at the moment but she'll cause game related drama

Vanessa staying is honestly good for those that watch for game play....I don't think she has any chance to win at the moment but she'll cause game related drama

Yeah she is more entertaining than Shelli!

Vanessa staying is honestly good for those that watch for game play....I don't think she has any chance to win at the moment but she'll cause game related drama

Yeah she is more entertaining than Shelli!

Probably...Shelli's not going to quit though so this is far from over.

I still think Clay's an idiot

Probably...Shelli's not going to quit though so this is far from over.

I still think Clay's an idiot

Indeed he is. I like Shelli vs. Vanessa because they will air out all the dirty laundry on each other.

so its a mental pov or hoh.

with that in mind the HG's if they were thinking, should get rid of vanessa now and shelli in the double-- because vanessa's better at mental and shelli's better at physical...

shelli and vanessa and the asian guy need to go. Take that back asian can stay but the guy with glasses can go. dont care for anybody else.

shelli and vanessa and the asian guy need to go. Take that back asian can stay but the guy with glasses can go. dont care for anybody else.

meg too please..... meg acan go

I need Meg and Steve to go. Everyone else is playing the game.

I need Meg and Steve to go. Everyone else is playing the game.

Yes!

 

also what are the chances of the gremlins wishing they evicted vanessa and not shelli in a few days...

I need Steve to go now. Can't even deal with having to watch him vote tonight lol. Hoping he goes at the double eviction and Jackie wins HoH. I need her to make some moves. 

******* can't stand Steve! Get his irrelevant *** out this week. 

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