Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
A majority of them were voting for Mike to begin with though same when Spencer made that speech and everyone was voting for Tony. Sierra liked Carolyn more and same with Rodney and Will, doesn't make them bitter. The only juror who didn't plan to vote Mike, but did because of Mike winning his vote is Dan.
Also, we are aware those reactions could be to literally anything (them rolling their eyes) right? They always put in reactions that aren't really happening as its being shown.
A majority of them were voting for Mike to begin with though same when Spencer made that speech and everyone was voting for Tony. Sierra liked Carolyn more and same with Rodney and Will, doesn't make them bitter. The only juror who didn't plan to vote Mike, but did because of Mike winning his vote is Dan. Also, we are aware those reactions could be to literally anything (them rolling their eyes) right? They always put in reactions that aren't really happening as its being shown.
So if a majority of them were voting Mike anyway there shouldn't be an issue with her giving that speech anyway. Should she have asked a question instead? Most of the questions are useless BS that gets reworded or geared towards diff contestants, or personal issues people have with the final 3. They were all very bitter, they expressed hatred and negativity towards Mike for playing the game throughout the whole season. Yes, I am aware, but knowing Rodney and Dan would you really be shocked if they were rolling their eyes at her comments? Not really lol
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
You ever think maybe she felt like there was a point to it? She's the one playing the game, not the fans, and I'm sure she's not playing to do whatever the fans want. Plust, if people already knew who they were voting for then there was no point for her to ask a question then. So it's pointless either way.
On another note I completely respect anyone's opinion if you say "I much prefer actual questions than to what they did" but for someone to say that they shouldn't get to do that isn't right.
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
You ever think maybe she felt like there was a point to it? She's the one playing the game, not the fans, and I'm sure she's not playing to do whatever the fans want. Plust, if people already knew who they were voting for then there was no point for her to ask a question then. So it's pointless either way.
On another note I completely respect anyone's opinion if you say "I much prefer actual questions than to what they did" but for someone to say that they shouldn't get to do that isn't right.
It doesn't matter if the outcome changed or not. It doesn't matter if she's allowed to do that or not and it doesn't matter what she thought it would accomplish. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TELLING THE JURY HOW TO VOTE!! If she felt that it was pointless to ask questions then just go congratulate the final 3 and sit back down. Do not preach and don't get on any high horses.
Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
If someone is dumb *** enough to let anyone else sway them(Jen especially) than that is their own dumb *** fault. And while we are on the subject of dumb *** I also think it is dumb *** to waste your question on blabbing about who played the best game IYO.
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
You ever think maybe she felt like there was a point to it? She's the one playing the game, not the fans, and I'm sure she's not playing to do whatever the fans want. Plust, if people already knew who they were voting for then there was no point for her to ask a question then. So it's pointless either way.
On another note I completely respect anyone's opinion if you say "I much prefer actual questions than to what they did" but for someone to say that they shouldn't get to do that isn't right.
It doesn't matter if the outcome changed or not. It doesn't matter if she's allowed to do that or not and it doesn't matter what she thought it would accomplish. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TELLING THE JURY HOW TO VOTE!! If she felt that it was pointless to ask questions then just go congratulate the final 3 and sit back down. Do not preach and don't get on any high horses.
But she has every right to!!! They don't have to listen to her. She's playing the game and that's part of being in the jury. If you don't think the jurors talk about the game and who they should/would vote for in the jury house on Big Brother or in Ponderosa on Survivor then you must be crazy. People in the jury try to influence the other people in the jury all the time. They don't have to listen or do what they say, but it's part of th game. A lot of players threaten people that they will sway the jury against them if they vote them out. Oh and hey guess what, it happened already, not only with her but with a few other contestants. You arguing about it isn't going to chance the fact that it happened and is over with, and will definitely continue to happen in future seasons.
Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
I mean this is a reality show. You watch enough of these shows to see that there have been a lot more and worse rude things happen. Also, you're acting like she literally stood up and said vote for Mike you have no other option and sat back down. That's not what happened. Telling the jury something along the lines of "listen you're all mad and pissed off at someone for playing the game, trying a strategy and then a different strategy when the previous one didn't work, succeeding, and lasting longer than all of you, don't be bitter about it" isn't necessarily rude in my opinion. She's sticking up for someone who she p***ionately believes deserves to win and they still can vote however they want.
Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
I mean this is a reality show. You watch enough of these shows to see that there have been a lot more and worse rude things happen. Also, you're acting like she literally stood up and said vote for Mike you have no other option and sat back down. That's not what happened. Telling the jury something along the lines of "listen you're all mad and pissed off at someone for playing the game, trying a strategy and then a different strategy when the previous one didn't work, succeeding, and lasting longer than all of you, don't be bitter about it" isn't necessarily rude in my opinion. She's sticking up for someone who she p***ionately believes deserves to win and they still can vote however they want.
To me it is. Why? Because it's not her ******* place to do it and that's ALL I'm saying. You clearly have trouble understanding that.
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
You ever think maybe she felt like there was a point to it? She's the one playing the game, not the fans, and I'm sure she's not playing to do whatever the fans want. Plust, if people already knew who they were voting for then there was no point for her to ask a question then. So it's pointless either way.
On another note I completely respect anyone's opinion if you say "I much prefer actual questions than to what they did" but for someone to say that they shouldn't get to do that isn't right.
It doesn't matter if the outcome changed or not. It doesn't matter if she's allowed to do that or not and it doesn't matter what she thought it would accomplish. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TELLING THE JURY HOW TO VOTE!! If she felt that it was pointless to ask questions then just go congratulate the final 3 and sit back down. Do not preach and don't get on any high horses.
But she has every right to!!! They don't have to listen to her. She's playing the game and that's part of being in the jury. If you don't think the jurors talk about the game and who they should/would vote for in the jury house on Big Brother or in Ponderosa on Survivor then you must be crazy. People in the jury try to influence the other people in the jury all the time. They don't have to listen or do what they say, but it's part of th game. A lot of players threaten people that they will sway the jury against them if they vote them out. Oh and hey guess what, it happened already, not only with her but with a few other contestants. You arguing about it isn't going to chance the fact that it happened and is over with, and will definitely continue to happen in future seasons.
No she doesn't. At that point she is not playing the game. She is voting for a winner. You think I don't know these people talk to each other and infuence each other? Obviously that happens but that's really not the point here and you don't seem to get that.
All I'm saying is that it's not her place to tell the jury to stop being bitter and vote for whomever she herself thinks is supposed to win. Everything else is irrelevant.
Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
I mean this is a reality show. You watch enough of these shows to see that there have been a lot more and worse rude things happen. Also, you're acting like she literally stood up and said vote for Mike you have no other option and sat back down. That's not what happened. Telling the jury something along the lines of "listen you're all mad and pissed off at someone for playing the game, trying a strategy and then a different strategy when the previous one didn't work, succeeding, and lasting longer than all of you, don't be bitter about it" isn't necessarily rude in my opinion. She's sticking up for someone who she p***ionately believes deserves to win and they still can vote however they want.
To me it is. Why? Because it's not her ******* place to do it and that's ALL I'm saying. You clearly have trouble understanding that.
Yet her place is to decide a winner, so if she wants to talk to the jury instead of asking questions, she is free to do so. If it wasn't her place to do so, she wouldn't be allowed to do it. I clearly don't have trouble understanding anything. Clearly you do since what you're saying shouldn't happen, did, several times, and will continue to as well. Case closed.
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
You ever think maybe she felt like there was a point to it? She's the one playing the game, not the fans, and I'm sure she's not playing to do whatever the fans want. Plust, if people already knew who they were voting for then there was no point for her to ask a question then. So it's pointless either way.
On another note I completely respect anyone's opinion if you say "I much prefer actual questions than to what they did" but for someone to say that they shouldn't get to do that isn't right.
It doesn't matter if the outcome changed or not. It doesn't matter if she's allowed to do that or not and it doesn't matter what she thought it would accomplish. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TELLING THE JURY HOW TO VOTE!! If she felt that it was pointless to ask questions then just go congratulate the final 3 and sit back down. Do not preach and don't get on any high horses.
But she has every right to!!! They don't have to listen to her. She's playing the game and that's part of being in the jury. If you don't think the jurors talk about the game and who they should/would vote for in the jury house on Big Brother or in Ponderosa on Survivor then you must be crazy. People in the jury try to influence the other people in the jury all the time. They don't have to listen or do what they say, but it's part of th game. A lot of players threaten people that they will sway the jury against them if they vote them out. Oh and hey guess what, it happened already, not only with her but with a few other contestants. You arguing about it isn't going to chance the fact that it happened and is over with, and will definitely continue to happen in future seasons.
No she doesn't. At that point she is not playing the game. She is voting for a winner. You think I don't know these people talk to each other and infuence each other? Obviously that happens but that's really not the point here and you don't seem to get that.
All I'm saying is that it's not her place to tell the jury to stop being bitter and vote for whomever she herself thinks is supposed to win. Everything else is irrelevant.
Yes she was voted out and no longer playing the game to win, but attending tribal council and essentially voting for a winner is still part of playing the game. Dude don't tell me "I don't seem to get that" when you are the one who is falling behind on this conversation. Talking to eachother and trying to influence each other is the same as taking the time to address the jury instead of asking a random final 3 question. Do they have to listen to her? No, but she has every right to tell the jury to stop being bitter. I really don't see what's wrong with that. It's not like she said "Stop being bitter and vote for Mike, thanks", sat down, and then everyone voted for Mike, and she caused a huge change in the outcome of the game. Plus she knows way more about what's going on behind the scenes with the jury than we all do.
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
You ever think maybe she felt like there was a point to it? She's the one playing the game, not the fans, and I'm sure she's not playing to do whatever the fans want. Plust, if people already knew who they were voting for then there was no point for her to ask a question then. So it's pointless either way.
On another note I completely respect anyone's opinion if you say "I much prefer actual questions than to what they did" but for someone to say that they shouldn't get to do that isn't right.
It doesn't matter if the outcome changed or not. It doesn't matter if she's allowed to do that or not and it doesn't matter what she thought it would accomplish. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TELLING THE JURY HOW TO VOTE!! If she felt that it was pointless to ask questions then just go congratulate the final 3 and sit back down. Do not preach and don't get on any high horses.
But she has every right to!!! They don't have to listen to her. She's playing the game and that's part of being in the jury. If you don't think the jurors talk about the game and who they should/would vote for in the jury house on Big Brother or in Ponderosa on Survivor then you must be crazy. People in the jury try to influence the other people in the jury all the time. They don't have to listen or do what they say, but it's part of th game. A lot of players threaten people that they will sway the jury against them if they vote them out. Oh and hey guess what, it happened already, not only with her but with a few other contestants. You arguing about it isn't going to chance the fact that it happened and is over with, and will definitely continue to happen in future seasons.
No she doesn't. At that point she is not playing the game. She is voting for a winner. You think I don't know these people talk to each other and infuence each other? Obviously that happens but that's really not the point here and you don't seem to get that.
All I'm saying is that it's not her place to tell the jury to stop being bitter and vote for whomever she herself thinks is supposed to win. Everything else is irrelevant.
Yes she was voted out and no longer playing the game to win, but attending tribal council and essentially voting for a winner is still part of playing the game. Dude don't tell me "I don't seem to get that" when you are the one who is falling behind on this conversation. Talking to eachother and trying to influence each other is the same as taking the time to address the jury instead of asking a random final 3 question. Do they have to listen to her? No, but she has every right to tell the jury to stop being bitter. I really don't see what's wrong with that. It's not like she said "Stop being bitter and vote for Mike, thanks", sat down, and then everyone voted for Mike, and she caused a huge change in the outcome of the game. Plus she knows way more about what's going on behind the scenes with the jury than we all do.
No. YOUR the one that's behind in the damn conversation. You sit here and bring up so much other shit that is just plain irrelevant and has nothing to do with the point I'm tryint to make here. It's not her ******* place to tell the Jury to stop being bitter because guess what? They played the game just like she did. So they can feel anyway they want to feel whether it's bitterness, happiness, sadness etc. She doesn't get to tell grown adults how to feel. Can she do it? Yes BUT IT'S NOT HER ******* PLACE TOO!! Which is my point that seems to keep going over your head.
Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
I mean this is a reality show. You watch enough of these shows to see that there have been a lot more and worse rude things happen. Also, you're acting like she literally stood up and said vote for Mike you have no other option and sat back down. That's not what happened. Telling the jury something along the lines of "listen you're all mad and pissed off at someone for playing the game, trying a strategy and then a different strategy when the previous one didn't work, succeeding, and lasting longer than all of you, don't be bitter about it" isn't necessarily rude in my opinion. She's sticking up for someone who she p***ionately believes deserves to win and they still can vote however they want.
To me it is. Why? Because it's not her ******* place to do it and that's ALL I'm saying. You clearly have trouble understanding that.
Yet her place is to decide a winner, so if she wants to talk to the jury instead of asking questions, she is free to do so. If it wasn't her place to do so, she wouldn't be allowed to do it. I clearly don't have trouble understanding anything. Clearly you do since what you're saying shouldn't happen, did, several times, and will continue to as well. Case closed.
No. You don't get it and it shows. Just because she CAN do it and it's allowed to do it doesn't mean it's OKAY for her to do it and it doesn't mean it's her place to tell adults how to feel and to "stop being better" If you really think that's okay for her or anyone else to do then fine. That's how you think. Good luck with that.
And just because it's happened before and will happen again doesn't make it okay or right to do it.
Since we're going nowhere with this we're going to have agree to disagree on it.
Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
I mean this is a reality show. You watch enough of these shows to see that there have been a lot more and worse rude things happen. Also, you're acting like she literally stood up and said vote for Mike you have no other option and sat back down. That's not what happened. Telling the jury something along the lines of "listen you're all mad and pissed off at someone for playing the game, trying a strategy and then a different strategy when the previous one didn't work, succeeding, and lasting longer than all of you, don't be bitter about it" isn't necessarily rude in my opinion. She's sticking up for someone who she p***ionately believes deserves to win and they still can vote however they want.
To me it is. Why? Because it's not her ******* place to do it and that's ALL I'm saying. You clearly have trouble understanding that.
Yet her place is to decide a winner, so if she wants to talk to the jury instead of asking questions, she is free to do so. If it wasn't her place to do so, she wouldn't be allowed to do it. I clearly don't have trouble understanding anything. Clearly you do since what you're saying shouldn't happen, did, several times, and will continue to as well. Case closed.
No. You don't get it and it shows. Just because she CAN do it and it's allowed to do it doesn't mean it's OKAY for her to do it and it doesn't mean it's her place to tell adults how to feel and to "stop being better" If you really think that's okay for her or anyone else to do then fine. That's how you think. Good luck with that.
And just because it's happened before and will happen again doesn't make it okay or right to do it.
Since we're going nowhere with this we're going to have agree to disagree on it.
she follows all the rules but it's not 'okay' for her to do it. Where's your objective point of reference for that, then? Oh wait, Debut is bringing is whiny, *****y opinions over to this thread, how exciting. I'm actually surprised your dumb *** didn't try to say it's not OK for her to do it because she's a non-cast member who didn't even belong on the jury. I mean really, you're purposelly being obtuse for the sake of your own pride (whatever's left of that) even though it's clearly been demonstrated that you're wrong.
Please take your *** out of this thread and back to the ones about the shows on the verge of cancellation.
Jenn's speech to the Jury last season pissed me off. I felt like she was telling people whom to vote for and you know what? She doesn't get to do that. Everyone on that Jury has their own vote and they can vote for anyone they want for any reasons they want. It's not her place to lecture anyone and tell them how they should feel and vote. I was hoping someone would tell her to shut the hell up and sit down during that.
She gets to do whatever she wants. That was her time to speak to the final 3 and she took the time to talk to the jury instead explaning to them about who played the better game and not to be bitter about it. They don't have to listen to her, but she can say whatever she wants.
**** that. She needs to adress the damn final 3 and that's it. She has no right to sit there and tell people who they're supposed to vote for and how to feel because guess what? She has her vote and they have theirs and they can vote however they want. It's not her job to make sure the right person in her mind wins.
Yet she should take the time to ask pointless questions to three jury members when she already knows who she's voting for? She can do whatever the hell she wants, cause guess what, it's not your job to tell her what she can or can not do. If she wants to take the opportunity to tell the jury to get their head out of their ***, stop being bitter, and vote for the person who actually played the best game, she can. Whether they listen or not is up to them. It's not like she changed the outcome of the game by doing that, and if she did, then good because Mike deserved it the most. If she couldn't do that, they wouldn't have allowed it. Plust, it's way more entertaining than most of the questions people ask.
Yes because THAT'S THE POINT! she's there to adress the jury and say whatever the hell she needs to them and sit back down. Not to tell the jury how to vote. She can say whatever the hell she wants but she needs to say it TO THE FINAL 3 AND THE FINAL 3 ONLY and whether it changed the outcome or not doesn't matter because THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is she has no right to address the jury and tell them what to do. I don't care if they allow it or not. It doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it her place.
And no. It's not entertaining at all. It's pointless as hell and rude.
I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
I mean this is a reality show. You watch enough of these shows to see that there have been a lot more and worse rude things happen. Also, you're acting like she literally stood up and said vote for Mike you have no other option and sat back down. That's not what happened. Telling the jury something along the lines of "listen you're all mad and pissed off at someone for playing the game, trying a strategy and then a different strategy when the previous one didn't work, succeeding, and lasting longer than all of you, don't be bitter about it" isn't necessarily rude in my opinion. She's sticking up for someone who she p***ionately believes deserves to win and they still can vote however they want.
To me it is. Why? Because it's not her ******* place to do it and that's ALL I'm saying. You clearly have trouble understanding that.
Yet her place is to decide a winner, so if she wants to talk to the jury instead of asking questions, she is free to do so. If it wasn't her place to do so, she wouldn't be allowed to do it. I clearly don't have trouble understanding anything. Clearly you do since what you're saying shouldn't happen, did, several times, and will continue to as well. Case closed.
No. You don't get it and it shows. Just because she CAN do it and it's allowed to do it doesn't mean it's OKAY for her to do it and it doesn't mean it's her place to tell adults how to feel and to "stop being better" If you really think that's okay for her or anyone else to do then fine. That's how you think. Good luck with that.
And just because it's happened before and will happen again doesn't make it okay or right to do it.
Since we're going nowhere with this we're going to have agree to disagree on it.
she follows all the rules but it's not 'okay' for her to do it. Where's your objective point of reference for that, then? Oh wait, Debut is bringing is whiny, *****y opinions over to this thread, how exciting. I'm actually surprised your dumb *** didn't try to say it's not OK for her to do it because she's a non-cast member who didn't even belong on the jury. I mean really, you're purposelly being obtuse for the sake of your own pride (whatever's left of that) even though it's clearly been demonstrated that you're wrong.
Please take your *** out of this thread and back to the ones about the shows on the verge of cancellation.
First of all knock off the ******* name calling alright? It's unecessary and makes you look like a damn child. How old are you?
Second of all your ANOTHER one that doesn't get it. Obviously from a ******* productions standpoint she can do it but THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! But from a moral/principle standpoint it's not her place or right to tell grown people how to feel or how to vote. It's condescending and there's not need for it. Here's a life lesson for you: just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something or it's your PLACE to do it. It's not about rules and that's what you and free agents don't understand. I'm not wrong on that or my point as well. You can feel however you want to feel.
So do me a favor and take YOUR *** out of this thread and go back to obscurity where you came from. And learn how to come at people the right way while your there.
Yeah, no telling the jury members how to vote is awful and while they are allowed to do it (Spencer even said production encourage him to do it), it still sucks. People don't need to be told who to vote for and if someone doesn't vote for who you think they should have, that's on the finalist, not the jury member. Funny story is that Kass almost voted Woo, because she found Spencer's speech that awful and wanted to just spite him and how condescending the speech was. Kass <3
But you know what? I'm tired of talking about it so I'm gonna let it go for good. Anyone got anything else to say about my point will be ignored. I do not care.
I'm excited for the Second Chances. There are People that are on that I've always wanted to see play again like Terry and Peigh-Gee. Jeff and Kimmi will be awesome to see as well given it's been YEARS since their season. Same with Kelly(Borneo).
In fact I think it's gonna be really Interesting to see how Kelly plays given that the game has changed so much after her time on the show.
But you know what? I'm tired of talking about it so I'm gonna let it go for good. Anyone got anything else to say about my point will be ignored. I do not care.
I'm excited for the Second Chances. There are People that are on that I've always wanted to see play again like Terry and Peigh-Gee. Jeff and Kimmi will be awesome to see as well given it's been YEARS since their season. Same with Kelly(Borneo).
In fact I think it's gonna be really Interesting to see how Kelly plays given that the game has changed so much after her time on the show.
On another note: I wish Shane and Teresa got on.
To say that you don't like that she did it or that you feel like she shouldn't be able to or just shouldn't have done it is one thing. I can respect that and maybe even agree to some extent. But to say she shouldn't have done it/she doesn't have a right to do it is wrong. Your saying she doesn't have a right to speak her mind and play the game/speak her mind the way she wants to. That's where you are wrong and not understanding the conversation.
Obviously, because you have failed to keep up withthis conversation and come up with any good points with this conversation.
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I still disagree. It's not against the rules and if she wants to take that time to try and sway the jury whether it works or not, she can do it. Yes, because contestants on a relality show shouldn't be rude. They should all be nice towards one another and have manners. Please. Since when is rude a bad thing in a show that has tons of villians and what she did still wasn't rude anyway. It's a game, the jury was bitter,******* up, vote for who played the best game and move on. The fact that the jury was rolling their eyes at her comments when she was right on everything she said shows how bitter against Mike they were.
A majority of them were voting for Mike to begin with though same when Spencer made that speech and everyone was voting for Tony. Sierra liked Carolyn more and same with Rodney and Will, doesn't make them bitter. The only juror who didn't plan to vote Mike, but did because of Mike winning his vote is Dan.
Also, we are aware those reactions could be to literally anything (them rolling their eyes) right? They always put in reactions that aren't really happening as its being shown.
So if a majority of them were voting Mike anyway there shouldn't be an issue with her giving that speech anyway. Should she have asked a question instead? Most of the questions are useless BS that gets reworded or geared towards diff contestants, or personal issues people have with the final 3. They were all very bitter, they expressed hatred and negativity towards Mike for playing the game throughout the whole season. Yes, I am aware, but knowing Rodney and Dan would you really be shocked if they were rolling their eyes at her comments? Not really lol
That's just it, there's no point to it. People already knew who they were voting for and I'd much rather get a question than something like "omg guys Mike played da best game!!!! Don't be bitter!!!" when like they were all voting Mike either way lol. Yes some may have been bitter, but we're all gonna vote for Mike and if they didn't, that's on Mike. I much prefer actual questions to what Jenn of Spencer pulled.
You ever think maybe she felt like there was a point to it? She's the one playing the game, not the fans, and I'm sure she's not playing to do whatever the fans want. Plust, if people already knew who they were voting for then there was no point for her to ask a question then. So it's pointless either way.
On another note I completely respect anyone's opinion if you say "I much prefer actual questions than to what they did" but for someone to say that they shouldn't get to do that isn't right.
It doesn't matter if the outcome changed or not. It doesn't matter if she's allowed to do that or not and it doesn't matter what she thought it would accomplish. SHE HAS NO RIGHT TELLING THE JURY HOW TO VOTE!! If she felt that it was pointless to ask questions then just go congratulate the final 3 and sit back down. Do not preach and don't get on any high horses.
In my opinion it was. Telling someone how to vote a feel in the final scenario is rude and unecessary.
If someone is dumb *** enough to let anyone else sway them(Jen especially) than that is their own dumb *** fault. And while we are on the subject of dumb *** I also think it is dumb *** to waste your question on blabbing about who played the best game IYO.
But she has every right to!!! They don't have to listen to her. She's playing the game and that's part of being in the jury. If you don't think the jurors talk about the game and who they should/would vote for in the jury house on Big Brother or in Ponderosa on Survivor then you must be crazy. People in the jury try to influence the other people in the jury all the time. They don't have to listen or do what they say, but it's part of th game. A lot of players threaten people that they will sway the jury against them if they vote them out. Oh and hey guess what, it happened already, not only with her but with a few other contestants. You arguing about it isn't going to chance the fact that it happened and is over with, and will definitely continue to happen in future seasons.
I mean this is a reality show. You watch enough of these shows to see that there have been a lot more and worse rude things happen. Also, you're acting like she literally stood up and said vote for Mike you have no other option and sat back down. That's not what happened. Telling the jury something along the lines of "listen you're all mad and pissed off at someone for playing the game, trying a strategy and then a different strategy when the previous one didn't work, succeeding, and lasting longer than all of you, don't be bitter about it" isn't necessarily rude in my opinion. She's sticking up for someone who she p***ionately believes deserves to win and they still can vote however they want.
To me it is. Why? Because it's not her ******* place to do it and that's ALL I'm saying. You clearly have trouble understanding that.
No she doesn't. At that point she is not playing the game. She is voting for a winner. You think I don't know these people talk to each other and infuence each other? Obviously that happens but that's really not the point here and you don't seem to get that.
All I'm saying is that it's not her place to tell the jury to stop being bitter and vote for whomever she herself thinks is supposed to win. Everything else is irrelevant.
Yet her place is to decide a winner, so if she wants to talk to the jury instead of asking questions, she is free to do so. If it wasn't her place to do so, she wouldn't be allowed to do it. I clearly don't have trouble understanding anything. Clearly you do since what you're saying shouldn't happen, did, several times, and will continue to as well. Case closed.
Yeah can yall just agree to disagree and move on please?
Yes she was voted out and no longer playing the game to win, but attending tribal council and essentially voting for a winner is still part of playing the game. Dude don't tell me "I don't seem to get that" when you are the one who is falling behind on this conversation. Talking to eachother and trying to influence each other is the same as taking the time to address the jury instead of asking a random final 3 question. Do they have to listen to her? No, but she has every right to tell the jury to stop being bitter. I really don't see what's wrong with that. It's not like she said "Stop being bitter and vote for Mike, thanks", sat down, and then everyone voted for Mike, and she caused a huge change in the outcome of the game. Plus she knows way more about what's going on behind the scenes with the jury than we all do.
No. YOUR the one that's behind in the damn conversation. You sit here and bring up so much other shit that is just plain irrelevant and has nothing to do with the point I'm tryint to make here. It's not her ******* place to tell the Jury to stop being bitter because guess what? They played the game just like she did. So they can feel anyway they want to feel whether it's bitterness, happiness, sadness etc. She doesn't get to tell grown adults how to feel. Can she do it? Yes BUT IT'S NOT HER ******* PLACE TOO!! Which is my point that seems to keep going over your head.
No. You don't get it and it shows. Just because she CAN do it and it's allowed to do it doesn't mean it's OKAY for her to do it and it doesn't mean it's her place to tell adults how to feel and to "stop being better" If you really think that's okay for her or anyone else to do then fine. That's how you think. Good luck with that.
And just because it's happened before and will happen again doesn't make it okay or right to do it.
Since we're going nowhere with this we're going to have agree to disagree on it.
she follows all the rules but it's not 'okay' for her to do it. Where's your objective point of reference for that, then? Oh wait, Debut is bringing is whiny, *****y opinions over to this thread, how exciting. I'm actually surprised your dumb *** didn't try to say it's not OK for her to do it because she's a non-cast member who didn't even belong on the jury. I mean really, you're purposelly being obtuse for the sake of your own pride (whatever's left of that) even though it's clearly been demonstrated that you're wrong.
Please take your *** out of this thread and back to the ones about the shows on the verge of cancellation.
First of all knock off the ******* name calling alright? It's unecessary and makes you look like a damn child. How old are you?
Second of all your ANOTHER one that doesn't get it. Obviously from a ******* productions standpoint she can do it but THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! But from a moral/principle standpoint it's not her place or right to tell grown people how to feel or how to vote. It's condescending and there's not need for it. Here's a life lesson for you: just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do something or it's your PLACE to do it. It's not about rules and that's what you and free agents don't understand. I'm not wrong on that or my point as well. You can feel however you want to feel.
So do me a favor and take YOUR *** out of this thread and go back to obscurity where you came from. And learn how to come at people the right way while your there.
The bolded is litterally all I'm saying.
But you know what? I'm tired of talking about it so I'm gonna let it go for good. Anyone got anything else to say about my point will be ignored. I do not care.
I'm excited for the Second Chances. There are People that are on that I've always wanted to see play again like Terry and Peigh-Gee. Jeff and Kimmi will be awesome to see as well given it's been YEARS since their season. Same with Kelly(Borneo).
In fact I think it's gonna be really Interesting to see how Kelly plays given that the game has changed so much after her time on the show.
On another note: I wish Shane and Teresa got on.
To say that you don't like that she did it or that you feel like she shouldn't be able to or just shouldn't have done it is one thing. I can respect that and maybe even agree to some extent. But to say she shouldn't have done it/she doesn't have a right to do it is wrong. Your saying she doesn't have a right to speak her mind and play the game/speak her mind the way she wants to. That's where you are wrong and not understanding the conversation.
Obviously, because you have failed to keep up withthis conversation and come up with any good points with this conversation.
I mean the whole point of a thread is to discuss, is it not? But yes, I have proven my point so I will move on.
You guys were repeating similar points as well as using those quote walls. I thought it went on for too long
Hahah no, I know, I agree. It was the same thing over and over again for the both of us and it is just overtaking the thread.
So I'm rooting for Vytas, Peih-Gee, Tasha, Spencer, Varner, and Monica for second chance!
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