The Ruins: Wes Bergmann - MTV

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KChallenge10 wrote:

Susie does not do well without numbers. Plug Susie into Wes's place in any of the seasons he's done and most likely she's an early boot. Susie would never survive a show without a majority alliance on her side. Plus all her shows were team challenges which are much easier to get to a final.

No one does well without numbers...including Wes.   When did Wes do well when he was an early target other than Fresh Meat?   The Ruins?  No.   Seasons?  No.  On The Duel he didn't see an elimination until the half-way point.  Also, Susie wasn't in the majority alliance on Gauntlet 2 yet won.   Politics are even more important in team challenges which is why Wes is lucky he only did one.I really do miss team challenges--so much better gameplay.

The Duel I would say he came in with no real strong ties. Exes 2 he wasn't in the majority and almost made the final same as Rivals 3. Put Susie in any of those situations and she is an early boot because most average people can beat her in an elimination IMO Please don't bring up G2 when people like Robin, Katie, Julie, Ibis made the final. No one saw eliminations that season. I like Susie and give her kudos for her game but she had the luxury of always have a strong alliance backing her for her to have the gameplay she did. 

kvm1977 wrote:

KChallenge10 wrote:Susie does not do well without numbers. Plug Susie into Wes's place in any of the seasons he's done and most likely she's an early boot. Susie would never survive a show without a majority alliance on her side. Plus all her shows were team challenges which are much easier to get to a final.

No one does well without numbers...including Wes.   When did Wes do well when he was an early target other than Fresh Meat?   The Ruins?  No.   Seasons?  No.  On The Duel he didn't see an elimination until the half-way point.  Also, Susie wasn't in the majority alliance on Gauntlet 2 yet won.   Politics are even more important in team challenges which is why Wes is lucky he only did one.I really do miss team challenges--so much better gameplay.

The Duel I would say he came in with no real strong ties. Exes 2 he wasn't in the majority and almost made the final same as Rivals 3. Put Susie in any of those situations and she is an early boot because most average people can beat her in an elimination IMO Please don't bring up G2 when people like Robin, Katie, Julie, Ibis made the final. No one saw eliminations that season. I like Susie and give her kudos for her game but she had the luxury of always have a strong alliance backing her for her to have the gameplay she did. 

Let's start with Rivals 3--he was with CT who none of the girls would have ever called out.  He absolutely was in the majority.  On The Duel, he had Evan, Kenny, Nehemiah & arguably Eric.  That was half the cast.  Plus, John & Tyler had no one.  Brad, CT & Derrick were all that didn't have his back.  Wes & Theresa were in a good spot on Exes 2.  They were literally never sent into an elimination other than when they came in last, right?  He had the numbers until John & Nany came back--which sucks that they came back but he wasn't an underdog.

Kina hated Susie & Cara yet she called out Jillian and debated calling out Ibis before her.  Don't kid yourself, Susie played a great game on G2 and didn't have the numbers.  Ibis made the final solely based on friendship.  While Katie, Julie, Aneesa & Robin made the final because everyone hated Beth so much they foolish sacrificed Ruthie.   Although Julie was a better competitor than people give her credit for being.  I'd have loved to have seen her in a Duel.  Susie controlled Inferno 3 with only Timmy, Cara & Colie.  She ran The Ruins with Evan..and kind of Kenny & Johanna but Susie was always the brains behind things.   Having a strong alliance is typically playing a strong social game which she did.  And it was especially impressive because she wasn't a regular.  

Wes is going to be great this upcoming challenge.

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