[QUOTE=bringbackrr;205942]What I don't understand is why there is no dvd's of any of the RR seasons? The show ran for 14 seasons there are reality shows that ran for one season that get a dvd. Same goes for RW I don't understand BMP at all it's like they have no interest in marketing their RW/RR shows it's very strange.[/QUOTE]
A lot of reality shows don't even release their shows on DVD (for some unknown reason, I personally believe if they did it would bring in a lot of money for their respective companies). Look at Survivor; They've only released two or three seasons on DVD, and Survivor is one of the highest rated reality shows out there.
I know a guy who sells RW/RR DVD's... He has EVERY season of Real World and The Challenge, and most seasons of Road Rules.
PM me for more info, I'd be more than happy to share, he loves selling them.
The only seasons of Road Rules I saw on TV was "X-Treme". I watched the 1st episode of Viewers Revenge then stopped because it was awful. It was weird how I watched the challenges prior to "X-Treme" and not Road Rules.
I did however, see "Campus Crawl" and "South Pacific" a while back online and it was awesome!!!
I'm watching Road Rules: Down Under now on youtube. Susie looks exactly the same and Piggy is hilarious! Chadwick changed A LOT personally from his Road Rules season to Battle of the Seasons IMO.
Now that I'm watching Road Rules Down Under, I realize that there is one more reason why I like old school real world and road rules more than the current shows. The music is 100 times better. Instead of playing awful songs by emo bands that only have a tween fan base, the show consists of music by respected artists such as Blur, Isaac Hayes, and Portishead, and this is only from the first episode. I remember seeing clips from the London season where Pavement is played in the background after Jacinda had her tongue pierced, and it served as a great unofficial video for the song for me. Even the old school challenges like the Battle of the Seasons had good music that created an intense atmosphere such as The Avalanches and Radiohead. If BMP hired somebody who actually had a decent taste in music, it would make the current seasons of the real world and the challenges somewhat bearable.
Road Rules Down Under... WATCH IT. It's an awesome example of what this show was supposed to be about. A group of people going on an adventure- not a competition. That's what the challenges are for. I didn't realize how awful Viewer's Revenge was until I rewatched Down Under. I don't think I like the idea of them voting people off either. I like that they all have to bare consequences when they fail, such as not getting money or not being able to move forward until they compete another mission.
[QUOTE=Nadav;205992]Now that I'm watching Road Rules Down Under, I realize that there is one more reason why I like old school real world and road rules more than the current shows. The music is 100 times better. Instead of playing awful songs by emo bands that only have a tween fan base, the show consists of music by respected artists such as Blur, Isaac Hayes, and Portishead, and this is only from the first episode. I remember seeing clips from the London season where Pavement is played in the background after Jacinda had her tongue pierced, and it served as a great unofficial video for the song for me. Even the old school challenges like the Battle of the Seasons had good music that created an intense atmosphere such as The Avalanches and Radiohead. If BMP hired somebody who actually had a decent taste in music, it would make the current seasons of the real world and the challenges somewhat bearable.[/QUOTE]
MTV used to do an excellent job pairing its great music with its shows. Beavis & ******** were a huge part of that too. Yeah...now it's just all so, so terrible. GAG!
I wasn't a big Semester At Sea fan, but I highly, HIGHLY recommend Down Under. I love that season.
[QUOTE=Nadav;205992]Now that I'm watching Road Rules Down Under, I realize that there is one more reason why I like old school real world and road rules more than the current shows. The music is 100 times better. Instead of playing awful songs by emo bands that only have a tween fan base, the show consists of music by respected artists such as Blur, Isaac Hayes, and Portishead, and this is only from the first episode. I remember seeing clips from the London season where Pavement is played in the background after Jacinda had her tongue pierced, and it served as a great unofficial video for the song for me. Even the old school challenges like the Battle of the Seasons had good music that created an intense atmosphere such as The Avalanches and Radiohead. If BMP hired somebody who actually had a decent taste in music, it would make the current seasons of the real world and the challenges somewhat bearable.[/QUOTE]
Agreed! The music was just perfectly paired with events in the shows. The older seasons just have "something" about them now we have scripted **** that caters to 14 yr olds. In the old school RW/RR you actually had a sense that these people were on an adventure and learning new things - I also notice the people they cast back then were MUCH better than the immature, uninteresting people they cast today. It's like if you're not pimped out in the latest trends and interests you won't get cast on the shows today.
[QUOTE=RW561015;206919]I didn't remember (or didn't pay enough attention to) how great Kefla was![/QUOTE]
Yeah..... I really liked when he handed the Road Rules team the Road Rules horns on the 2000 challenge to inspire them after loses twice to the Real World team. They ended up going on a winning streak after that and winning the challenge.
[QUOTE=bringbackrr;206251]Agreed! The music was just perfectly paired with events in the shows. The older seasons just have "something" about them now we have scripted **** that caters to 14 yr olds. In the old school RW/RR you actually had a sense that these people were on an adventure and learning new things - I also notice the people they cast back then were MUCH better than the immature, uninteresting people they cast today. It's like if you're not pimped out in the latest trends and interests you won't get cast on the shows today.[/QUOTE]
I agree 120% on the music issue. I assume they can get the music cheaper which is why they go this route. Brooklyn was the first season where I thought, "Who the jelly are these bands" and it has become worse since. Of course, Brooklyn was also the first season where I noticed that it seemed so obvious that each person on the cast was so blatantly more worried about positioning themselves for post-show "reality star" work that it sort of felt less like an observational show and more like a booking competition from episode 1.
I thought Cancun had some really great potential but suddenly it was as if that Student City place was allowed to take over every aspect of production and it became a bit of a farce.
Since some of the Road Rulers are out for awhile and in the perspective of a RR vs RW vs FM challenge, what would think if they make a new RR? Or that format is out forever? It's not done for awhile, I know, but if they have in the horizon to do a RR vs RW vs FM, maybe that could be a good solution, especially if some of the Road Rulers doesn't accept to return.
[QUOTE=EPluribusUnum;222690]Since some of the Road Rulers are out for awhile and in the perspective of a RR vs RW vs FM challenge, what would think if they make a new RR? Or that format is out forever? It's not done for awhile, I know, but if they have in the horizon to do a RR vs RW vs FM, maybe that could be a good solution, especially if some of the Road Rulers doesn't accept to return.[/QUOTE]
It won't happen because Road Rules ratings were so BAD for Viewer's Revenge, which was Road Rules comeback. Not to mention the producers clearly have ran out of good ideas for Road Rules(that was evident back when they did Road Rules "Xtreme").
RR: VR was set up for failure from the beginning. First off, it didn't have a very likeable cast and second it got really boring because it was the same thing week after week, just throwing the same people into the pit. The missions were okay. But if they're gonna do Road Rules, they should have stuck to the original format. 6 STRANGERS. NO VOTING. To me, as long as you keep those rules, the rest doesn't matter too much. I didn't mind the missions that were relatively easy, like some of the ones in the older seasons. Road Rules is all about how working together you can accomplish more, while meeting new people and learning about other cultures or whatever. And you completely tear the show of all its content and structure when you start voting people off of a show that's about teamwork. I think they could have another RR season. I mean they could have just taken freshmeat and did Road Rules. They could have changed the challenge missions to Road Rules missions. It could have been Road Rules: The Outback or something instead of FM 1. Totally could have worked IMO.
The only thing they kept for Road Rules 14 was the name. Viewers Revenge threw out the ONE thing that the show was known for, it's foundation: Travel. They stayed local in Southern California, only making trips outside of Souther California twice (Once to Laguna Seca, another to Las Vegas).
IMO it was another season of the Challenge, not Road Rules.
What killed Road Rules 14 was the fact that it included veteran cast members. It would have been so much better had they just let Tori, Dan, David, Angel, Kristen, Ivory, and company run the show.
[QUOTE=Buck05;222733]What killed Road Rules 14 was the fact that it included veteran cast members. It would have been so much better had they just let Tori, Dan, David, Angel, Kristen, Ivory, and company run the show.[/QUOTE]
I agree, It should have just been like any other season.
[QUOTE=rsox813;222706]RR: VR was set up for failure from the beginning. First off, it didn't have a very likeable cast and second it got really boring because it was the same thing week after week, just throwing the same people into the pit. The missions were okay. But if they're gonna do Road Rules, they should have stuck to the original format. 6 STRANGERS. NO VOTING. To me, as long as you keep those rules, the rest doesn't matter too much. I didn't mind the missions that were relatively easy, like some of the ones in the older seasons. Road Rules is all about how working together you can accomplish more, while meeting new people and learning about other cultures or whatever. And you completely tear the show of all its content and structure when you start voting people off of a show that's about teamwork. I think they could have another RR season. I mean they could have just taken freshmeat and did Road Rules. They could have changed the challenge missions to Road Rules missions. It could have been Road Rules: The Outback or something instead of FM 1. Totally could have worked IMO.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this so much. I think that voting off thing was so stupid and it kinda defeated the purpose of the show. It was supposed to be about these 6 people having to survive in a RV while having to work together to get to the end of the journey. Not trying to not lose another mission because you don't want to see anyone go home. Isn't that what the challenges are for? And I wouldn't let the Fresh/Stale meat anywhere NEAR Road Rules. No need to mess the show up with their blandness.
Oh and I agree that they should've tooken the Veterans out of the show.
I started watching Road Rules before they voted people off. My first season was Maximum Velocity tour.
Then for Road Rules and Real World 10, they held a huge casting special and made it a tv show. Does anyone remember this? They showed 20 people inter-acting (Ellen and Coral faught a lot, so everyone knew they were going to make the final cut) and at the end of the casting special they picked 6 people for Road Rules (Adam, Blair, Steve, Jisela, Ellen and Sophia) and 7 for The Real World (Coral, Mike, Malik, Kevin, Rachel, Lori and.... Nicole) Everyone was shocked with Nicole, because she was pretty quiet.
They also gave the new format of Road Rules, if you lose 3 missions, you have to vote someone out.
The voting off part wasn't so bad. The Quest, Campus Crawl, South Pacific and X-treme, happened to be a good seasons. But when they did VR they destroyed the premise of the show. From the very beginning the show was about new people interacting in a small location and competing in missions together, with limited money. All of that went away. On VR they didn't travel. They didn't get to see the world and they didn't have new castmembers. It was a complete disaster. I don't know why they just didn't use the old concept. Making it live was a horrible idea. From the start VR was doomed.
I wish they would bring RR back, with the original premise.
In perhaps a tangent way, The Buried Life reminds me of a tamer version of Road Rules. It was the campus crawl that ended the series for me as a regular viewer. I just couldn't relate to it, the challenges were silly, and the cast just didn't seem to care.
I actually wouldn't mind if they brought back Road Rules WITH the vote off rule. As long as it's back and about the traveling and the missions, that's good enough for me. They can't bring it back without the vote off rule because it wouldn't do well with the other competing reality shows out there.
They can make it happen, South Pacific was one of my favorite seasons of all time, and they made it work with the vote off rule.
My favorite seasons of Road Rules were 1, 2, and 5, so I figure my preference of the show would be to have them doing the road trip thing across North America collecting money to survive and then being handsomely rewarded at end without the competition/rotation being such a factor. I didn't like the crazy locations, albeit I missed quite a few seasons (Latin America, M.V.T., Campus Crawl, South Pacific) but I did see Europe, Islands, Down Under, Semester at Sea, The Quest, and X-Treme and the setting just wasn't doing much for me.
I don't know, I figure Road Rules would do better as a documentary/reality than a competition/reality show.
[QUOTE=ClubSandwich;223133]My favorite seasons of Road Rules were 1, 2, and 5, so I figure my preference of the show would be to have them doing the road trip thing across North America collecting money to survive and then being handsomely rewarded at end without the competition/rotation being such a factor. I didn't like the crazy locations, albeit I missed quite a few seasons (Latin America, M.V.T., Campus Crawl, South Pacific) but I did see Europe, Islands, Down Under, Semester at Sea, The Quest, and X-Treme and the setting just wasn't doing much for me.
I don't know, I figure Road Rules would do better as a documentary/reality than a competition/reality show.[/QUOTE]
MVT and Campus Crawl were both in North America. That beauty about Road Rules was they made it work for both formats. People are still in documentaries, so it doesn't necessarily need a vote off component to it. I wouldn't mind if they did vote someone off, but that was trivial. I enjoyed the basic premise. I also enjoyed the exotic locations. They could have done Road Rules: Russia/Scandonavian Peninsula or Road Rules: The Middle East. I think it is awesome for the cast members and viewers to see different locations.
[QUOTE=LifeAfterBMP;223094]I actually wouldn't mind if they brought back Road Rules WITH the vote off rule. As long as it's back and about the traveling and the missions, that's good enough for me.[B] They can't bring it back without the vote off rule because it wouldn't do well with the other competing reality shows out there.[/B]
They can make it happen, South Pacific was one of my favorite seasons of all time, and they made it work with the vote off rule.[/QUOTE]
Voting people off wasn't the point of Road Rules in my eyes. I mean sure there was some competing elements to it but it wasn't about beating each other.
I did like the diffrent locations. To me it made the show more interesting to see diffrent locations and cultures and such.
I dont know about that, about how they need the vote off rule to compete with other reality shows. I mean I don't think people watch RR for the same reasons you'd watch survivor or whatever "competitive" reality show. I think people forget that shows BECOME popular for a reason. Then they go and try to **** around with the format. I wish survivor was just 18 people, no stupid twists. The Australian Outback was the best season IMO and there weren't any twists. Given the show was new which certainly has some appeal. The voteoff rule essentially ruined RR. I understand the point of it, but it gave Campus Crawl an easy out to get rid of Sarah instead of having her finally be successful and whatnot, which is actually what the Gauntlet turned out to be for her. Same thing for Jisela in the Quest. X-treme same thing with Danny. I mean here you clearly have "weak" links in the group and to see them succeed despite facing all the troubles they had is the epitome of Road Rules. The voteoff rule ruined that. Okay you suck, so get off the RV.
I loved Road Rules, Europe and Islands being my favorite seasons of any BMP show ever but with Semester at Sea I lost complete interest in the show, then I watched MVT and when the vote off started, I saw it as a way to capitalize on the whole Suvivor Shtick and gave up on it, only saw the South Pacific at the start cause Mary Ann was hot and the whole Abe/Donnell fight intrigued me, and only saw X-treme last year cause I wanted to see Derrick's Road Rules.
No, because I remember her saying that her father nicknamed her Piggy because she looked like a piglet, but she never said her real name...or maybe I'm just remembering things wrong...But I'm fairly sure it was just a nickname.
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