[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397077]Not only did Johnny put the tissue on her but he threw a drink in her face for no reason. I feel like last week everyone was praising Hailey for hitting Thomas when he didn't even touch her. A prime example of how it's always a different story when it's Nia.[/QUOTE]
As a fan of Hailey, I see the situation a little different. I don't condone violence but I had no problem with Hailey hitting Tom for a variety of reasons:
1. They have a long history.
2. He had been treating her like crap, and he was giving her mixed signals.
3. It was pretty clear she had been bottling up a LOT of emotions
4. He was provoking her and telling her to hit him.
5. She was black out drunk and has shown remorse since it happened.
Plus, Johnny and Averey weren't the first people Nia hit in that house, or the first time she used a household appliance as a would-be weapon. And she spent the whole second half of the season trying to make their lives miserable. She knew what she was doing.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;397083]Nia/Hailey were provoked but one thing is hitting someone with your hands than with a hair dryer.[/QUOTE]
I never agreed with the blow dryer but when most people are at their breaking point they clearly don't think. I'm a person who believes in using my hands in defending myself so that's what I'm speaking on.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397086]Nia have Averey a cheap shot because Averey did the exact same thing. If Averey was so ready to defend her man why wait to attack the girl from behind after she's already hit him? That clearly made no sense. I don't know where you are from but no one where I'm from would allow some to throw a drink in their face and just sit there.[/QUOTE]
Because unlike the neanderthal Nia, Averey waited for her to act before beating her up. She only attacked Nia because she was going after Johnny. Is it really that hard to see the differences? The fight was over and Nia comes up and hits her because she lost. Averey hit Nia because she was about to attack Johnny with an blowdryer.
And I'm from the suburbs, you know where people don't have criminal records over something as juvenile as attacking somebody over a drink.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397086]Nia have Averey a cheap shot because Averey did the exact same thing. If Averey was so ready to defend her man why wait to attack the girl from behind after she's already hit him? That clearly made no sense. I don't know where you are from but no one where I'm from would allow some to throw a drink in their face and just sit there.[/QUOTE]
Averey came at Nia after Nia attacked Johnny with a blow-dryer. Plus, Johnny was in that little production room, and their initial altercation had ended. Nia decided to keep it going once he got out of the "safe-zone" If I just watched someone surprise attack my significant other with a blow-dryer, I'm gonna lose my **** too.
Anyways, this is all old news anyways I suppose.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397088]I never agreed with the blow dryer but when most people are at their breaking point they clearly don't think. I'm a person who believes in using my hands in defending myself so that's what I'm speaking on.[/QUOTE]
You feel physically harmed against a tissue? LMAO!!
Let's not forget how Thomas tried to convince the house to make her leave the whole time.
Nia is insane she said she would slit Jordan's throat and told her friend to snap his neck.....
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397088]I never agreed with the blow dryer but when most people are at their breaking point they clearly don't think. I'm a person who believes in using my hands in defending myself so that's what I'm speaking on.[/QUOTE]
You use your hands to defend yourself if someone has attacked you WITH THEIR HANDS. If someone puts a tissue on you and pours a little soda on you, that is CLEARLY not justification for you to start throwing punches.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397091]You feel physically harmed against a tissue? LMAO!![/QUOTE]
Please don't twist my words I stated I was talking about the drink being thrown. If you would allow someone to do those things to you that's fine but I don't think it's okay especially if someone does it to you who knows you clearly aren't on good terms with them.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397094]Please don't twist my words I stated I was talking about the drink being thrown. If you would allow someone to do those things to you that's fine but I don't think it's okay especially if someone does it to you who knows you clearly aren't on good terms with them.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing you can do. In the real world if I were to punch a person I hated because they threw a drink in my face I would get arrested. And I'm not a violent person, I have no reason to be, especially not over a drink/tissue.
[QUOTE=toenails;397093]You use your hands to defend yourself if someone has attacked you WITH THEIR HANDS. If someone puts a tissue on you and pours a little soda on you, that is CLEARLY not justification for you to start throwing punches.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but call me crazy. If a guy I clearly disliked did those things to me it's pretty clear he's asking for conflict. The point is you never know how a person will react which is why Johnny should have never came in the bathroom anyway.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397097]I'm sorry but call me crazy. If a guy I clearly disliked did those things to me it's pretty clear he's asking for conflict. The point is you never know how a person will react which is why Johnny should have never came in the bathroom anyway.[/QUOTE]
For a sensible human being, maybe. But you'd be naive as hell if you don't think Nia saw that as an opening to try to be a big bad ***** and beat up Johnny. This is the same person who tried to put a hit on Jordan. She's just a terrible person.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397096]There's nothing you can do. In the real world if I were to punch a person I hated because they threw a drink in my face I would get arrested. And I'm not a violent person, I have no reason to be, especially not over a drink/tissue.[/QUOTE]
That's understandable. We are clearly from two different places and where I'm from it would be justified for me to defend myself because I would be retaliating after being provoked. I've dealt with a similar situation as the one between Nia and Johnny and everyone understood why I did what I did.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397099]That's understandable. We are clearly from two different places and where I'm from it would be justified for me to defend myself because I would be retaliating after being provoked. I've dealt with a similar situation as the one between Nia and Johnny and everyone understood why I did what I did.[/QUOTE]
You found the nearest object and went after a defenseless person with malicious intent? Because let's be honest, the last thing Johnny was going to do was put his hands on Nia.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397098]For a sensible human being, maybe. But you'd be naive as hell if you don't think Nia saw that as an opening to try to be a big bad ***** and beat up Johnny. This is the same person who tried to put a hit on Jordan. She's just a terrible person.[/QUOTE]
I agree which is why Johnny should have never went in the bathroom. If I lived with Nia for months and saw what she was capable of it is also naive of me to go provoke her when she clearly a wildcard.
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397101]I agree which is why Johnny should have never went in the bathroom. If I lived with Nia for months and saw what she was capable of it is also naive of me to go provoke her when she clearly a wildcard.[/QUOTE]
Johnny shouldn't have gone in the bathroom, yes, but him going in the bathroom doesn't give Nia the right to beat him up with an object.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397100]You found the nearest object and went after a defenseless person with malicious intent? Because let's be honest, the last thing Johnny was going to do was put his hands on Nia.[/QUOTE]
How would she know that? She didn't know Johnny prior to the show. She only seen how Johnny acted in the house which involved arguing with females such as Jessica like they were men.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397102]Johnny shouldn't have gone in the bathroom, yes, but him going in the bathroom doesn't give Nia the right to beat him up with an object.[/QUOTE]
He had no right to put a dirty tissue and throw a drink on her. This all happened before she retaliated with fists. Why are you completely skipping HIS actions before any objects got involved?
You guys tend to do this a lot and pretend as if she just woke up and decided to hit him with a blow-dryer. The blow-dryer is the only thing I felt where she was in the wrong.
Besides the blow dryer part, most girls on these shows would have done the same thing if they were in the same situation. If Laurel, Nany, Camila were in similar situations I'm sure they would have started swinging. She didn't put a hit on Jordan as you can see nothing happened to him. It interesting how some people can loathe someone so much and think they are the most terrible person in the entire world when all they know of them is from a reality show.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397102]Johnny shouldn't have gone in the bathroom, yes, but him going in the bathroom doesn't give Nia the right to beat him up with an object.[/QUOTE]
I don't either but you can clearly see my point. If you already know Nia is crazy and picked up a lamp when she was about to fight Jordan why would you go in the bathroom? He should have ignored her but like you said Nia wanted to be a bad *** and attack Johnny while he also he clearly want to be a tough guy who puts Nia in her place which backfired.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;397105]He had no right to put a dirty tissue and throw a drink on her. This all happened before she retaliated with fists. Why are you completely skipping HIS actions before any objects got involved?
You guys tend to do this a lot and pretend as if she just woke up and decided to hit him with a blow-dryer. The blow-dryer is the only thing I felt where she was in the wrong.[/QUOTE]
Nice try. I'm pretty positive WittyWrath knows Johnny going in the bathroom is basically Johnny throwing a tissue and drink on her. Can I get back to my discussion with Witty now?
[QUOTE=WittyWrath;397107]I don't either but you can clearly see my point. If you already know Nia is crazy and picked up a lamp when she was about to fight Jordan why would you go in the bathroom? He should have ignored her but like you said Nia want to be a bad *** and attack Johnny he clearly want to be a tough guy who puts Nia in her place which backfired.[/QUOTE]
Basically, it was who has the bigger D. Nia just took it WAY too far, in my opinion. Key words, in my opinion.
Johnny never should have put that stuff on Nia or poured the drink on him. But Nia just took that as an opportunity to go ape-**** on him. She wasn't holding back on those punches. And then she kept going, and going, and going. She was like the the energizer bunny of psychopaths.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397109]Basically, it was who has the bigger D. Nia just took it WAY too far, in my opinion. Key words, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Yes this was my point which is why I say Nia actions were justified MINUS the blow dryer.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397108]Nice try. I'm pretty positive WittyWrath knows Johnny going in the bathroom is basically Johnny throwing a tissue and drink on her. Can I get back to my discussion with Witty now?[/QUOTE]
Nice try what? Calm down. I'm just trying to make things clear here, because I'm reading and I'm trying to understand if you're completely ignoring both parties actions. How am I suppose to know that witty knows what you're talking about? You're having an open discussion I have every right to come in if it's not a PM.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;397114]Nice try what? Calm down. I'm just trying to make things clear here, because I'm reading and I'm trying to understand if you're completely ignoring both parties actions. How am I suppose to know that witty knows what you're talking about? You're having an open discussion I have every right to come in if it's not a PM.[/QUOTE]
Nice try trying to throw the whole, "You guys act like Johnny is innocent..." in my face. I've already stated previously that neither are in the right, Johnny is at fault too.
Well I gotta study for midterms and catch some sleep. Night all
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;397116]Nice try trying to throw the whole, "You guys act like Johnny is innocent..." in my face. I've already stated previously that neither are in the right, Johnny is at fault too.[/QUOTE]
Well, that clears things up then. But there are certainly people out there that just ignore the involvement of both parties just to side or go against either Johnny or Nia when both did things that were justified or wrong. Averey was the only one that was in the right, for defending her man obviously.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;397123]Well, that clears things up then. But there are certainly people out there that just ignore the involvement of both parties just to side or go against either Johnny or Nia when both did things that were justified or wrong. Averey was the only one that was in the right, for defending her man obviously.[/QUOTE]
Averey was right to defend her man but I disagree with her timing. Instead of waiting until Nia's back is turned why not tell Nia to put the blow dryer down and fight her instead. That's like me know someone is planning to attack my friend and I sit and wait to do something after it happens.
Nia was also crazy when she clearly seen the girl sitting there putting her hair up and waiting for Johnny to come back also. Like what you think the girl was going to do? Hug you? Like you knew she was up to something.
Okay I don't know why ya'll makin crap up now.
Go rewatch the fight in SLOMO. Avery got 1 small hit on her nose and missed every single punch in all the rounds. The "skinny little white girl" didn't touch Nia... don't even be biased cause you hate Nia.
And some of ya'll on here are ridiculous.
So please tell me if someone you can't stand walks past you and makes a smart comment, throws a SNOTTY tissue on you, and throws a drink at you you're going to sit there? You either A. Don't believe in physical fighting at all
B. You're scared to defend yourself
Don't sit here and act like what Johnny did was fine and she should've "walked away" because i'm positive none of you would if you had THE GUTS to fight back. You can hate on Nia about the blow dryer part all you want, but the "You feel physicall harmed against a tissue? LMAO!!!" sounds stupid.
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