[QUOTE=muffins621;192596]What was Mckenzie trying to say? I don't think Jem knew, she was just like "okay". Hahah.[/QUOTE]
She was just mumbling a bunch of gibberish :p
And Jemmye is right, the way McKenzie gets would make it too easy for someone to take advantage of her, and we all know that not everyone in this world of ours is a good person.
I really do hope McKenzie is watching this and realizing how sad she's looking with some of the stuff she's saying and doing. There's NOTHING normal about 'blacking out.'
Jemmye used the perfect word naive. That dude is a creep for letting her to drink more, and wanting to "party" more. Some men should treat women with more respect.
[QUOTE=T0714;192598]She was just mumbling a bunch of gibberish :p
And Jemmye is right, the way McKenzie gets would make it too easy for someone to take advantage of her, and we all know that not everyone in this world of ours is a good person.
I really do hope McKenzie is watching this and realizing how sad she's looking with some of the stuff she's saying and doing[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I am so glad she went home instead of staying out with that guy. She could hardly walk or sit in a chair, and her eyes weren't opening. Jemmye described her perfectly when she said "naive".
Mckenzie almost seemed to be bragging about how drunk she was to her friend on the phone. Its kinda sad, she's such a sweet girl. I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to her (or anybody else who is too drunk to make decisions).
[QUOTE=Camille;192601]It isn't normal to black out in your early 20's if you drink? Hmmm..I didn't know that. Ofcourse I was never dumb enough to go home with a random guy.[/QUOTE]
I dont think its normal at all. Most college students who party will have it happen a few times, but I think its weird to have it happen often.
[QUOTE=muffins621;192562]Okay, and its also different for everybody. My best friend is gay and will say things like that. I think it just depends on how people take it. I'm not trying to say I agree with Ryan at all, but I'm not going to hate on him or anything. I try to see good in everybody. What he said wasn't cool, and I would not say something like that, but I do know people who say things out of anger and do not mean it. Ryan seems to be friends with Derek from Cancun, so I doubt he is some homophobe or whatever.[/QUOTE]
Really, though? Thats like when people say "I'm not racist, my brothers girlfriend is black!". Annoying.
[QUOTE=morris614;192605]I dont think its normal at all. Most college students who party will have it happen a few times, but I think its weird to have it happen often.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I didn't mean that it was abnormal for a person to black out if they've had one too many. Of course it happens. But to act so nonchalantly like, 'oh it happens all the time!! it's OK' really is NOT OK :p haha
This fight is ridiculous. I think both of them are wrong. But I do think Ryan should have cleaned/help cleaned. Maybe none of this would have happened if he just helped out, but who knows maybe it would of just happened eventually.
[QUOTE=morris614;192605]I dont think its normal at all. Most college students who party will have it happen a few times, but I think its weird to have it happen often.[/QUOTE]
oh yeah I only had it happen a few times on birthdays and celebrations though. lol. Not every night now. Now that's not normal.
[QUOTE=SPK713;192611]Preston does think he is cool. "Say it to my face," and when Ryan does say it all he says is "Cool." Lol
God I dislike Preston[/QUOTE]
Well what else could he do? At least Ryan eventually said it to his face, but he only spoke after he saw that Preston was gone from the room :p
OK...so when the spoilers were coming out for this season, I thought what Preston did to Ryan's toothbrush was extremely immature and low. What Ryan did was no better.
I wonder if they happened right around the same time, or if one happened first once the other learned what happened. Damn editing.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;192609]Really, though? Thats like when people say "I'm not racist, my brothers girlfriend is black!". Annoying.[/QUOTE]
When I hear someone say, "I am not racist because..."
I know where they stand.
[QUOTE=muffins621;192614]This fight is ridiculous. I think both of them are wrong. But I do think Ryan should have cleaned/help cleaned. Maybe none of this would have happened if he just helped out, but who knows maybe it would of just happened eventually.[/QUOTE]
I agree. They are both wrong. I can't stand Ryan's ignorant comments, but I do think that Preston is instigating a little bit. When he went upstairs he kept going on and on and on and Ryan was ignoring him, he seemed like he was mad because he WANTED a fight with Ryan.
[QUOTE=morris614;192605]I dont think its normal at all. Most college students who party will have it happen a few times, but I think its weird to have it happen often.[/QUOTE]
If it happens all the time, you have a drinking problem. Simple as that.
Not being able to handle your liquor and/or not knowing your tolerance level and/or not knowing when to stop counts as a drinking problem in my opinion.
[QUOTE=producer88;192569]Wowwwwwwwwwww!!! Even as a straight guy I'm very offended by what they did to him. No one should have been treated that way. The bouncers where really really out of line. It's such a shame some people in society don't worry about their own problems. What ever someone sexuality, gender, or race shouldn't matter.[/QUOTE]
Were you there or something just because Preston says the bouncer had no other reason to kick him out doesn't mean it's true.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;192609]Really, though? Thats like when people say "I'm not racist, my brothers girlfriend is black!". Annoying.[/QUOTE]
I never said I say that, because I don't. But I am saying there are some people out there who are gay, and say things like that. I have also stated I don't agree with what Ryan had said.
I don't agree with everything Ryan says or does, and I can see fault in many things he says or does, but I don't dislike him. I don't really dislike anybody on this season. Preston sometimes gets on my nerves, but sometimes I like him. He and Ryan are both really over the top. I can see good things and bad things in both of them.
[QUOTE=muffins621;192614]This fight is ridiculous. I think both of them are wrong. But I do think Ryan should have cleaned/help cleaned. Maybe none of this would have happened if he just helped out, but who knows maybe it would of just happened eventually.[/QUOTE]
And isn't kinda funny how Ryan was freaking out on the first day because he didn't want to room with someone that he thought was dirty? And yet, look at him. haha
[QUOTE=Bacchus;192618]When I hear someone say, "I am not racist because..."
I know where they stand.[/QUOTE]
It's very annoying. They even say "I've dated black men" or "I have black friends" "I have gay or black people working for me". As if that gives them a pass when they are being ignorant. lol.
[QUOTE=Camille;192619]I agree. They are both wrong. I can't stand Ryan's ignorant comments, but I do think that Preston is instigating a little bit. When he went upstairs he kept going on and on and on and Ryan was ignoring him, he seemed like he was mad because he WANTED a fight with Ryan.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it seems like Preston wanted Ryan to act up, and say or do something. He was also calling Ryan the f word, but that's okay I guess?
They're both wrong, maybe they should go on "If you really knew me" haha.
I'm such a sap lately, I teared up when Preston got kicked out of the bar.
I never knew going into this season I would like Jemmye and Knight. Oh yeah and Ashlee is awesome.
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