[QUOTE=OrangeStar;245756]Could you please elaborate on what that says about her standards in your opinion? And if you are already at it, how is it possible to detect whether someone tells the truth/knows about his/her sexual preference?[/QUOTE]
Long story short she is a ****. Yes I know most of the girls that appear on Real World are but here's my thing about Dustin
The second I saw this guy on RW I labeled him a tool. No personality, no sense of humor, just straight boring AND even had hateful opinions of others (Gays). After the first couple episodes I wondered why MTV put a robot on the show
Then a couple weeks ago I found his name on Wikipedia and searched on goggle ''Dustin Zito tool'' to try and find some forums or boards expressing the same opinion and then BOOM - the gossip sites and even an article from TheGuardian popped up about his gay **** past
So I thought the guy was a tool from the start and so did Mike. Heather fell on his **** (if he had tried) from Day 1. So I dunno how you can label her anything else than an easy sloot and one with low/no standards
[QUOTE=SPENCERlife;245767]Long story short she is a SLOOT. Yes I know most of the girls that appear on Real World are but here's my thing about Dustin
The second I saw this guy on RW I labeled him a tool. No personality, no sense of humor, just straight boring AND even had hateful opinions of others (Gays). After the first couple episodes I wondered why MTV put a robot on the show
Then a couple weeks ago I found his name on Wikipedia and searched on goggle ''Dustin Zito tool'' to try and find some forums or boards expressing the same opinion and then BOOM - the gossip sites and even an article from TheGuardian popped up about his gay **** past
So I thought the guy was a tool from the start and so did Mike. Heather fell on his **** (if he had tried) from Day 1. So I dunno how you can label her anything else than an easy sloot and one with low/no standards[/QUOTE]
I really do wish Heather would become a member here simply so you would be in violation of the rules by using such derisive language (even if from the urban dictionary) regarding another person. It's disrespectful and extremely crass, in my opinion. There are a number of people in the RW/RR family I don't respect, but I don't resort to name calling. To me its just another form of abusive behavior.
[QUOTE=V1man;245772]I really do wish Heather would become a member here simply so you would be in violation of the rules by using such derisive language (even if from the urban dictionary) regarding another person. It's disrespectful and extremely crass, in my opinion. There are a number of people in the RW/RR family I don't respect, but I don't resort to name calling. To me its just another form of abusive behavior.[/QUOTE]
Oh come on
Call me old fashioned but any girl that starts sleeping with a guy after meeting him the first few weeks is a sloot. No way around that. Secondly how much did she even KNOW this guy that she laid in bed with? She admitted herself not much
So she basically fell in bed with the first tall and in shape guy she met on the show.
Please sugar coat what she did.....
[QUOTE=SPENCERlife;245773]Oh come on
Call me old fashioned but any girl that starts sleeping with a guy after meeting him the first few weeks is a sloot. No way around that. Secondly how much did she even KNOW this guy that she laid in bed with? She admitted herself not much
So she basically fell in bed with the first tall and in shape guy she met on the show.
Please sugar coat what she did.....[/QUOTE]
How about if I simply respond by suggesting that I find your commentary to be priggish; and, henceforth, I'll simply exercise some discipline and ignore you?
[QUOTE=SPENCERlife;245773]Oh come on
Call me old fashioned but any girl that starts sleeping with a guy after meeting him the first few weeks is a sloot. No way around that. Secondly how much did she even KNOW this guy that she laid in bed with? She admitted herself not much
So she basically fell in bed with the first tall and in shape guy she met on the show.
Please sugar coat what she did.....[/QUOTE]
Call me crazy, but wouldn't she be that if she slept with Mike, Leory, and Adam as well, not just one guy?
[QUOTE=SPENCERlife;245773]
Call me old fashioned but any girl that starts sleeping with a guy after meeting him the first few weeks is a sloot. [/QUOTE]
Any girl, really? So it's certainly different for guys, right?
[QUOTE=OrangeStar;245778]Any girl, really? So it's certainly different for guys, right?[/QUOTE]
Excellent point. Thanks for making it. Under his analysis I guess my wife is a "sloot" too! since I moved in with her in Manhattan only a week or so after we met -- 31 years ago.
Now I think I am pissed!
[QUOTE=V1man;245796]Excellent point. Thanks for making it. Under his analysis I guess my wife is a "sloot" too! since I moved in with her in Manhattan only a week or so after we met -- 31 years ago.
Now I think I am ************]
According to his logic probably 80% of all women are sloots - while guys are tools when they are not absolutely sure about their sexuality...or do NOT sleep around. Oh, how I love bigotry.
Just saw the last after show and I must say I REALLY applaud Chet and would LOVE for him to continue hosting these after shows and even the reunion. He perfectly vocalized almost EVERYTHING I wanted to say to Dustin especially the part where he called him out and asked if his homophobia is just an act of overcompensation. Very good stuff. I've never even been a huge Chet fan but with the way he handled himself and the questions he was asking I'd definitely prefer him to Blair, Mark, or any of those Maria Menounos women who always host the reunions.
On the flipside I can't stand Dustin at all. He's so delusional and his constant need to be the victim is beyond irritating. I have no problem with him doing gay ****. I even to a point don't blame him for not telling all of his roommates but
1. Before anything sexual occurred with Heather he should have fully disclosed his past. If he wasn't ready to be honest about his past he simply shouldn't have been sexual with Heather, easily solved.
2. All of his homophobic comments that he made BEFORE he knew his past was going to come out. I understand him not wanting to appear gay especially because of what he's done in his past....but don't insult and throw the entire gay community under the bus just so you can project this false "straight" macho BS persona. Dustin to me is a perfect example of those guys that go on and on with the homophobic BS when in reality they are just insecure about their own sexuality. I'm not even accusing Dustin of being gay but the kid clearly has HUGE sexual issues.
[QUOTE=CHill;245798]
1. Before anything sexual occurred with Heather he should have fully disclosed his past. If he wasn't ready to be honest about his past he simply shouldn't have been sexual with Heather, easily solved.
[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Before you have sex with a new partner do you hand them a list of everyone you have ever done anything sexual with? As long as Dustin got tested and was clean, he has no obligation to tell anyone anything.
[QUOTE=starma;245839]I disagree. Before you have sex with a new partner do you hand them a list of everyone you have ever done anything sexual with? As long as Dustin got tested and was clean, he has no obligation to tell anyone anything.[/QUOTE]
Your sense of proptiety about the things that define someone in any relationship leaves me cold. Heather invested in an honest Dustin. What she got was a typical user guy who after doing the deed had to keep living with her. Well, doesn't that just suck!
His past came out. He's a heel. Doesn't mean he's a bad guy, but just one who made poor choices. Heather invested in him, as many women do in their sexual partners, and she had every right to feel betrayed. Her response was tame compared to the other roommates. Relationship 101. Simple stuff, really.
Vman you just said the truth! Also yes,you don't owe your sexual history to your partner as long as you're STD free , but when part of your sexual history is in the public domain?! OH HELL YOU DO! What was she supposed to think when she saw that? I myself have never heard 'gay-for-pay' so I would assume that he was gay and had been using me the whole time as a coverup. I don't think she overreacted,she told him if she has sex with someone she gets emotionally attached,so that had to be tough.
Any guy/girl should tell a guy/girl about ANY kind of sexual past, especially if it's something serious. If someone was going out and hooking up with a random stranger, neither of the two's past will probably be brought up but it'd be his/her own fault for not using protection. But if a guy did a guy, no condom, he SHOULD tell his girl, if it was serious, but NOT because it was with another guy. So i guess, he should tell her if he's clean or not because if it's about STDs all that matters is clean? Yes or no. He shouldn't have to tell her just because it was with another guy but because if they were looking for something serious with each other, it's important to be open with each other and let each other know that everything is safe and she's not in harm of anything. If YOU (the person reading this) met a new guy/girl and wanted something serious with him/her, wouldn't YOU (the person reading this) want to know that you are going to be safe? Now this isn't about just hooking up once, I'm talking about wanting it to be long term.
If you are clean, and you know you're clean, there's nothing to tell. I can understand questioning the validity of someone's cleanliness if you've been lied to. However, not telling someone you engaged in homosexual relations and lying about your sexual past are two very different things.
If I found out my boyfriend had done something traditionally thought of as scandalous, and he hadn't told me.. I might be a bit upset. We're at a much different point than they are. If I found out about it a month or so into the relationship, it would be a different story. Isn't that still the learning period? What is the point where everything must be laid out on the table? To me, that point wouldn't be so early on.
That being said, I do appreciate the uniqueness of the situation the housemates live in. It's hard for anyone one of us to say what we would or wouldn't do in their shoes. Most of us never have been.
[QUOTE=Insider;245991]If you are clean, and you know you're clean, there's nothing to tell. I can understand questioning the validity of someone's cleanliness if you've been lied to. However, not telling someone you engaged in homosexual relations and lying about your sexual past are two very different things.
If I found out my boyfriend had done something traditionally thought of as scandalous, and he hadn't told me.. I might be a bit upset. We're at a much different point than they are. If I found out about it a month or so into the relationship, it would be a different story. [U]Isn't that still the learning period? What is the point where everything must be laid out on the table? To me, that point wouldn't be so early on. [/U]
That being said, I do appreciate the uniqueness of the situation the housemates live in. It's hard for anyone one of us to say what we would or wouldn't do in their shoes. Most of us never have been.[/QUOTE]
well said
I think Dustin should have told her
What if Katelyn had hooked up with someone in her house without telling them her secert. people would have gone crazy and I bet the producers would have stepped in.
[QUOTE=V1man;245975]Your sense of proptiety about the things that define someone in any relationship leaves me cold. Heather invested in an honest Dustin. What she got was a typical user guy who after doing the deed had to keep living with her. Well, doesn't that just suck!
His past came out. He's a heel. Doesn't mean he's a bad guy, but just one who made poor choices. Heather invested in him, as many women do in their sexual partners, and she had every right to feel betrayed. Her response was tame compared to the other roommates. Relationship 101. Simple stuff, really.[/QUOTE]
No, I'll ask my question again. Before you sleep with someone, do you list out all of the other sexual encounters you have ever had? Do you then ask them to do the same?
If you do- fine, that's your choice. But I reserve the right to my history is my history. And anything (as long as they are not endangering me health wise) behind me has nothing to do with me.
I am not the person I was 5 years ago, and I would hate to think that someone would dismiss me as a person based on decisions I made in my past. People evolve.
ok I just caught up on all of the aftershows...I found it humorous when Heather tells adam ...."you do not be honest about the scummiest things you have done with someone that you like" very definitively and even slapping her hands when she says it. [url=http://www.mtv.com/videos/real-world-las-vegas-ep-4-sin-city-tell-al/1660974/playlist.jhtml]Real World Las Vegas | Ep. 4 | Sin City Tell-Al | MTV[/url] around the like 455 mark give or take a few seconds
Even if there are no camera operators around,they still have cameras installed in every room,even the bathroom,they have 0 privacy,that could not be me.
Mike is so fake. I just saw the backstage pass thing where he says that the only reason he wanted Dustin to leave the house is because he was concerned about Dustin's future job prospects. He didn't want Dustin's future job interviewer to have seen 13 episodes about Dustin's sexual past, so he thought Dustin should go home so that there'd only be one episode about it.
Bull.
He wanted Dustin to go home because he's jealous of Dustin and wants to be him/replace him.
[QUOTE=WhySoSerious;246277]He wanted Dustin to go home because he's jealous of Dustin and wants to be him/replace him.[/QUOTE]
That's a bit of a stretch....
[QUOTE=starma;246142]No, I'll ask my question again. Before you sleep with someone, do you list out all of the other sexual encounters you have ever had? Do you then ask them to do the same?
If you do- fine, that's your choice. But I reserve the right to my history is my history. And anything (as long as they are not endangering me health wise) behind me has nothing to do with me.
I am not the person I was 5 years ago, and I would hate to think that someone would dismiss me as a person based on decisions I made in my past. People evolve.[/QUOTE]
Are you now asking me the question in para 1 above, or is your question aimed at our members generally? I've been married for longer that most members have been alive, so I'm not in any position to have any easily related experience, since the 60's were aids free and having sex with someone was about as common as shaking hands when meeting someone new.
[QUOTE=PaintedVeil;246255]Even if there are no camera operators around,they still have cameras installed in every room,even the bathroom,they have 0 privacy,that could not be me.[/QUOTE]
I did use the bathroom while at the Denver house. You don't think that I used a bathroom with a camera in it?
[QUOTE=WhySoSerious;246321]Too kind? :laugh2:
How are you going to be "mean" to me on the internet?[/QUOTE]
Mean? Whoever suggested anyone should be mean? There are many other more civil alternatives, including cystic's possible employment of one or more of the seven types of sarcasm.
[QUOTE=V1man;246322]Mean? Whoever suggested anyone should be mean? There are many other more civil alternatives, including [B]cystic's possible employment of one or more of the seven types of sarcasm.[/B][/QUOTE]
Cystic's not going to make it. We have a moderator cult meeting tonight. It's his turn to kill the puppy.
[QUOTE=molds13;246323]Cystic's not going to make it. We have a moderator cult meeting tonight. It's his turn to kill the puppy.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I remember those meetings. I always hated fighting with Bacchus' cat over the fresh blood. Damn claws...
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