[QUOTE=trees12;50612]Katelyn does the iamonmtv site not allow you to speak your mind?[/QUOTE]
It's not that they don't allow me to speak my mind, it's just the idea that everything I do and say has to be moderator approved. As a writer and blogger I make a LOT of on-the-fly edits (a fact that I'm pretty sure must drive Bacchus crazy), so not having access to things that I post to revise or edit can be infuriating. Further to that if I'm only going to log on once a week, you can be damn certain I'm going to be making a lot of responses and posts.
I don't like how they get to control which replies go up on the main page. They've specifically overlooked sincere correspondence between myself and trans youth and have instead favored the "zomfg H4x0rz I luv u!!!!11!!".
It's not that I don't appreciate that fan base, because I sincerely do, but my agenda and goal for being on the show extends so much further beyond that, y'know?
[QUOTE=k8mnstr;50614]It's not that they don't allow me to speak my mind, it's just the idea that everything I do and say has to be moderator approved. As a writer and blogger I make a LOT of on-the-fly edits (a fact that I'm pretty sure must drive Bacchus crazy), so not having access to things that I post to revise or edit can be infuriating. Further to that if I'm only going to log on once a week, you can be damn certain I'm going to be making a lot of responses and posts.
I don't like how they get to control which replies go up on the main page. They've specifically overlooked sincere correspondence between myself and trans youth and have instead favored the "zomfg H4x0rz I luv u!!!!11!!".
It's not that I don't appreciate that fan base, because I sincerely do, but my agenda and goal for being on the show extends so much further beyond that, y'know?[/QUOTE]
I don't see any reason you shouldn't have a forum here at vevmo to interact with the transgendered community who desire to reach out to you as a result of your RW Brooklyn experience. It's easy enough to set up since you and B speak the same language: geek. You are part of a community I know nearly nothing about, but I'm not too old to learn (hopefully).
[quote=k8mnstr;50614]It's not that they don't allow me to speak my mind, it's just the idea that everything I do and say has to be moderator approved. As a writer and blogger I make a LOT of on-the-fly edits (a fact that I'm pretty sure must drive Bacchus crazy), so not having access to things that I post to revise or edit can be infuriating. Further to that if I'm only going to log on once a week, you can be damn certain I'm going to be making a lot of responses and posts.
I don't like how they get to control which replies go up on the main page. They've specifically overlooked sincere correspondence between myself and trans youth and have instead favored the "[B]zomfg H4x0rz I luv u!!!!11!!".[/B]
It's not that I don't appreciate that fan base, because I sincerely do, but my agenda and goal for being on the show extends so much further beyond that, y'know?[/quote]
? for the bolded part.
Yeah, I know your agenda extends much further than the superficial buble they're trying to send you out as.
Well then that site defeats the purpose somewhat since they pick and choose want goes up and what dosen't. You should have a right to post hat you want and revise it if you want ithout moderator control. Then they have to approve your response that is rediculous.
[QUOTE=trees12;50617]? for the bolded part.
Yeah, I know your agenda extends much further than the superficial buble they're trying to send you out as.
Well then that site defeats the purpose somewhat since they pick and choose want goes up and what dosen't. You should have a right to post hat you want and revise it if you want ithout moderator control. Then they have to approve your response that is rediculous.[/QUOTE]
I whole-heartedly and sincerely agree, which is why I don't use the IAmOnMTV site and am instead roleplayed by underpaid interns.
[QUOTE=V1man;50616]I don't see any reason you shouldn't have a forum here at vevmo to interact with the transgendered community who desire to reach out to you as a result of your RW Brooklyn experience. It's easy enough to set up since you and B speak the same language: geek. You are part of a community I know nearly nothing about, but I'm not too old to learn (hopefully).[/QUOTE]
I think this may not be the proper avenue, since vevmo appears to focus primarily on reality TV. I may be entirely wrong and if that is something Bacchus would like to see I'd definitely be up for opening my own forum or thread (*hint* [B]B[/B], facebook or PM me :wink:)
And you have transgender members? Other than me? lol
[quote=k8mnstr;50620]I whole-heartedly and sincerely agree, which is why I don't use the IAmOnMTV site and am instead roleplayed by underpaid interns.
I think this may not be the proper avenue, since vevmo appears to focus primarily on reality TV. I may be entirely wrong and if that is something Bacchus would like to see I'd definitely be up for opening my own forum or thread (*hint* [B]B[/B], facebook or PM me :wink:)
And you have transgender members? Other than me? lol[/quote]
That's teribble they're having interns come to the pages to roleplay. You should complain to BMP or Viacom if you can about that. They could and do post misleading information since they are responding for you. Do you think this is happening to the guys this season on that iamonmtv site.
[QUOTE=k8mnstr;50620]I whole-heartedly and sincerely agree, which is why I don't use the IAmOnMTV site and am instead roleplayed by underpaid interns.
I think this may not be the proper avenue, since vevmo appears to focus primarily on reality TV. I may be entirely wrong and if that is something Bacchus would like to see I'd definitely be up for opening my own forum or thread (*hint* [B]B[/B], facebook or PM me :wink:)
And you have transgender members? Other than me? lol[/QUOTE]
I don't know if we have a single transgender member other than you. We may have many. I'm all for bringing in new people. We have threads for movies and scripted TV in addition to reality programming, which I assume are not anathema to the transgender community at large. Who doesn't love to be entertained?
[quote=Boomtown;50624]The guys have already confirmed what the fight was about, and certain conversations that took place, and I don't see many of the girls denying the overall reasoning for the fight.[/quote]
The guys have their version of their story, some parts may be truth, some may be exaggerations. But ultimately, Scotts' basically the only guy from this season who's commented on what really went down in the house that was shown in an episodes, and all the girls at one point shared their side of the story.
[quote=Boomtown;50624]But no matter what, there are was parts of dialogue and body language, and attitude from these girls, that came out of their mouth, that just made them look ugly; And there is no amount of editing in the world that could have saved them, or made them look worse then what was actually apparent.
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As for this part, I can say the same for the guys, partially because of whay I said early on in this post.
I totally agree with most of what Boomtown said and I didn't find any of it to be misogynistic.
I totally sided with the boys on this one. I'm not always the cleanest person, but if someone politely asks me to do something, I'll do it. No biggie. If the house was bad enough for the boys to be that upset than a chore list really isn't that bad of an idea. Sorry that the girls think it's immature, but so is not cleaning up after yourself.
I don't get how when anyone else gets a bad edit (even for just being untidy) it's all blamed on editing, but with JD everyone blames him personally. I don't understand the animosity towards JD, the only arguments that have been provided are that some people don't like him. That's pretty weak. People are saying how they would've been scared when JD broke the table, but no one in the room even flinched. I think that was just the only way he felt he could express himself since Sarah really did keep contradicting herself.
I thought Baya was hilarious in the confessional when Sarah and Katelynn were complaining and she's just throwing her arms up.
I'm sorry, but I really don't understand how Sarah being completely calm while 3-4 guys are chewing her out makes her look ugly. If I were in her spot, and 4 guys were yelling at me about things that may or may not have been my fault, I would have gotten DEFENSIVE. I would have raised my voice, yelled back, and it would have quickly escalated into something serious. Hell, I might have broken the ****** table myself. With someone's HEAD. *jokes*
If someone is yelling at you and you remain in a calm and rational position, they will either a) gradually descend to your level of rationality or b) be completely ****** ****ed that you aren't yelling back, get more ****ed, and gradually act irrationally. Sadly, it generally tends to be the latter. That was exactly what I saw JD do as he smashed the table and fed the fishes in the Hudson a phone. I've seen Sarah do this twice now...my mom always used to tell me the best way to **** someone off more is to either laugh at them or to stay completely calm ("it's a good opposition tactic" she said). She's done both to JD before, and we've seen his reactions. I'm not saying it's bad on her part, or that she's egging him on, but he seems as though he thrives off of people fighting back; when they don't, he gets more and more angry.
I commend the way that Sarah handled herself in that situation.
Boomtown, I highly suggest that you go back a few pages and look at what the cast members (Scott and Katelynn that I remember, who were there, first hand) had to say about the editing in this episode. I do think the way that you came off with your response was insulting toward someone who was there, almost as to tell them that you know better.
Like I said earlier, if someone can give you a first-hand recap of what actually went on, I suggest you listen to them than to some shoddy editing job. You, as an editor, of all people should know better.
[quote=Boomtown;50602]You say that JD just shrugs it off, when people approach him to work things out, but what we're seeing on TV shows a different picture. JD approached Sara many times trying to work things out, and she tells him he means nothing to her, with the ugliest, most smug, evil grin I've ever seen from a female.[/quote]
Let's see:
1) JD did out Katelynn and instead of apologizing he denied having done so.
2) JD did put Devyn on the spot with the whole feud against his trans friend and instead of simply apologizing for it he blamed it on his alcohol intake of that night.
3) JD did make those uncalled for comments about immigrants and was never apologetic about it but actually claimed to be able to talk like that since his parents were immigrants also.
4) JD did call Devyn a college dropout and never apologized for it.
5) JD did plan the whole rat prank and then took offense of the fact that Devyn was "accusing" him of having put the rat on her bed.
6) Moreover, JD did make a confessional (that's shown on the dailes site) in which he makes it clear that he has [B]NO REGRETS[/B] whatsoever of his behavior.
I'm sorry but what show have you been watching if the picture of JD you're seeing on TV is a different one?
The only instance that you can mention in which we can see JD trying to work things out (with Sarah) was only after he had demanded an apology from her because she didn't take his side when he called Devyn a college dropout. Seriously, if I had been in Sarah's position I wouldn't care so much about him either. For him to have thought that Sarah owed him an apology is actually laughable. That guy definitely has issues.
[quote=molds13;50635]I'm sorry, but I really don't understand how Sarah being completely calm while 3-4 guys are chewing her out makes her look ugly. If I were in her spot, and 4 guys were yelling at me about things that may or may not have been my fault, I would have gotten DEFENSIVE. I would have raised my voice, yelled back, and it would have quickly escalated into something serious. Hell, I might have broken the ****** table myself. With someone's HEAD. *jokes*
If someone is yelling at you and you remain in a calm and rational position, they will either a) gradually descend to your level of rationality or b) be completely ****** ****ed that you aren't yelling back, get more ****ed, and gradually act irrationally. Sadly, it generally tends to be the latter. That was exactly what I saw JD do as he smashed the table and fed the fishes in the Hudson a phone. I've seen Sarah do this twice now...my mom always used to tell me the best way to **** someone off more is to either laugh at them or to stay completely calm ("it's a good opposition tactic" she said). She's done both to JD before, and we've seen his reactions. I'm not saying it's bad on her part, or that she's egging him on, but he seems as though he thrives off of people fighting back; when they don't, he gets more and more angry.
I commend the way that Sarah handled herself in that situation.
Boomtown, I highly suggest that you go back a few pages and look at what the cast members (Scott and Katelynn that I remember, who were there, first hand) had to say about the editing in this episode. I do think the way that you came off with your response was insulting toward someone who was there, almost as to tell them that you know better.
Like I said earlier, if someone can give you a first-hand recap of what actually went on, I suggest you listen to them than to some shoddy editing job. You, as an editor, of all people should know better.[/quote]
I agree 100% with every word you've written. I'd like to add that I also commend the way Devyn handled herself. I wished I could have a bit of the patience she must've had in order to refrain herself from kicking his *** when he took the phone away from her.
[QUOTE=jem3772;50560]Sorry I am really gonna have to disagree with that last stament, how can devyn who is so afraid of rats and mice, have a room like that in brooklyn ( i live in broklyn btw, so watch all the comments about it i love it lol), esp. in a place that looks like it was a converted warehouse. If your neighbor does constuction its known you have to get a cat. I am not sure if you guys kept food in there, but ven if not rats love dirt.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me, but how can you possibly disagree with Katelynn's recitation of facts when you have not a single fact yourself to offer to refute her detail of what actually happened?
Wow I must have missed [B]Boomtown[/B]'s list because the post he made last night around midnight (my time) and his so-called "list of reasons" have been beaten to death with a ban stick.
It's a little sad because I don't want people to think that you have to agree with the masses lest ye be attacked. However, his tone and methodologies were mildly insulting. I don't think I have ever stated that the girls were entirely without blame. Actually I believe I said just the opposite a few pages back.
There were issues in the house with dishes and trash, on occasion, and yes the car was a constant day-to-day struggle. That being said, the boys went about things completely wrong. On day one we all agreed it would be simpler to just clean things up as we go, and we did. The dish washer or laundry was being run 24/7 and like [B]ColliesMom[/B] said you found yourself in a kitchen that was meant for far less people and far more houseware and flatware than was necessary. Had the boys just sat down and said "Hey girls, we'd like it if you could pitch in more around the house" then it would have been the end of it.
Sadly it seems as though they took to one of two extremes, they would either say nothing leaving us to believe that nothing was wrong or they would badger us and look over our shoulder.
It's a shame, because it feels like BMP is resorting to old tactics rather than telling a unique and genuine story. It's a step in the right direction, don't get me wrong, but Brooklyn is not what it [I]could[/I] have been.
[quote=V1man;50640]Excuse me, but how can you possibly disagree with Katelynn's recitation of facts when you have not a single fact yourself to offer to refute her detail of what actually happened?[/quote]
I am sorry, but maybe you misunderstood my post?... I said I was gonna have to dispute the last part of her sentence which was that Kate and Devyns room was nobody's business but their own. To which I replied that is just simpley not true. If you are living in a converted warehouse, and keep ANY part of it dirty, it is everyone's busieness. How can you shriek from mice and then invite them into your room? If I had a roommate who kept her room as dirty as that room was shown, I would have demanded them to clean it up. Mice dont just stay in the room that brought them there.
[quote=k8mnstr;50651]Wow I must have missed [B]Boomtown[/B]'s list because the post he made last night around midnight (my time) and his so-called "list of reasons" have been beaten to death with a ban stick.
It's a little sad because I don't want people to think that you have to agree with the masses lest ye be attacked. However, his tone and methodologies were mildly insulting. I don't think I have ever stated that the girls were entirely without blame. Actually I believe I said just the opposite a few pages back.
There were issues in the house with dishes and trash, on occasion, and yes the car was a constant day-to-day struggle. That being said, the boys went about things completely wrong. On day one we all agreed it would be simpler to just clean things up as we go, and we did. The dish washer or laundry was being run 24/7 and like [B]ColliesMom[/B] said you found yourself in a kitchen that was meant for far less people and far more houseware and flatware than was necessary. Had the boys just sat down and said "Hey girls, we'd like it if you could pitch in more around the house" then it would have been the end of it.
Sadly it seems as though they took to one of two extremes, they would either say nothing leaving us to believe that nothing was wrong or they would badger us and look over our shoulder.
It's a shame, because it feels like BMP is resorting to old tactics rather than telling a unique and genuine story. It's a step in the right direction, don't get me wrong, but Brooklyn is not what it [I]could[/I] have been.[/quote]
I think communication - free of sarcasm and insults - is the key. Yes, the guys should have consistently stated in a polite way that the girls should help out more with the cleaning. At the same time, when the guys are trying to do so, the girls should not make jokes or be rude. Personally I think the chore list was a great idea - if I were in the same situation I probably would have suggested it. I was disappointed that his suggestion was not taken seriously because doing so might have avoided the escalading conflict. That being said, the 4 on 1 assault was not necessary, but I can see why they did it because, as I stated earlier, it brought two more girls into the discussion.
I just find it so hard to be neutral this season. Both sides have valid feelings and there is not one person in the house I detest unlike the last few seasons. I like everyone to a certain extent.
[quote=jem3772;50657]I am sorry, but maybe you misunderstood my post?... I said I was gonna have to dispute the last part of her sentence which was that Kate and Devyns room was nobody's business but their own. To which I replied that is just simpley not true. If you are living in a converted warehouse, and keep ANY part of it dirty, it is everyone's busieness. How can you shriek from mice and then invite them into your room? If I had a roommate who kept her room as dirty as that room was shown, I would have demanded them to clean it up. Mice dont just stay in the room that brought them there.[/quote]
While arguably you have a valid point (I say arguably since I don't recall having seen any food on Kate/Devyn's room) if any of the roommates I've had before would've ever tried to tell me what to do in my room I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have liked it in the very least and there's no way I would put up with that. I get the feeling that I speak for a majority when I say that one's bedroom, even when living with other people, should be off-limits.
[quote=Dannyboy;50662]While arguably you have a valid point (I say arguably since I don't recall having seen any food on Kate/Devyn's room) if any of the roommates I've had before would've ever tried to tell me what to do in my room I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have liked it in the very least and there's no way I would put up with that. I get the feeling that I speak for a majority when I say that one's bedroom, even when living with other people, should be off-limits.[/quote]
Strangely enough I agree with Danny. Anytime someone mention my room being dirty (and it usually is, I have mail and clothes everywhere) that is when I get ticked off and tell people to mind their business - and not in a nice way either! :laugh3:
[QUOTE=jem3772;50657]I am sorry, but maybe you misunderstood my post?... I said I was gonna have to dispute the last part of her sentence which was that Kate and Devyns room was nobody's business but their own. To which I replied that is just simpley not true. If you are living in a converted warehouse, and keep ANY part of it dirty, it is everyone's busieness. How can you shriek from mice and then invite them into your room? If I had a roommate who kept her room as dirty as that room was shown, I would have demanded them to clean it up. Mice dont just stay in the room that brought them there.[/QUOTE]
That would almost be a valid point if it weren't for the fact that the mice started showing up in the kitchen and common areas first. Devyn and I were among the last to receive visitors, with JD and Sarah's room being the most heavily infested.
Which is funny, don't you think, because their room was always the most immaculate.
People often see clothes scattered about and think dirty. It's interesting how people fail to understand that while although [I]they[/I] may not be able to function in perceived disorganization, others may thrive it in. Our clothes didn't bring the mice there, they were there as a result of the rainy season and us living on a pier in a converted warehouse. Could I have kept my room more tidy? Sure, but that wouldn't have impacted the mouse situation.
Frankly storming into someone's bedroom and demanding that they clean it up when it holds no bearing on you or your situation is presumptuous and self-righteous. We never went around telling Chet or Ryan to clean up their clothes when they were scattered about through the room, or when they left several loads of their dirty laundry sitting on chairs or benches because they couldn't wait for the washer.
Devyn and I had a three to six day cycle. We would clean up our room and within a week it would be messy again. It would then take anywhere from three to six days of it being a "mess" before one of us would clean up. It was our natural rhythm and it worked out for us.
Do you get to [I]see[/I] that? No. However absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. We were there, and while we may not have made our beds every day or immediately folded or hung up our laundry that doesn't mean we didn't do our part.
[QUOTE=jem3772;50657]I am sorry, but maybe you misunderstood my post?... I said I was gonna have to dispute the last part of her sentence which was that Kate and Devyns room was nobody's business but their own. To which I replied that is just simpley not true. If you are living in a converted warehouse, and keep ANY part of it dirty, it is everyone's busieness. How can you shriek from mice and then invite them into your room? If I had a roommate who kept her room as dirty as that room was shown, I would have demanded them to clean it up. Mice dont just stay in the room that brought them there.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for giving me something to work with instead of just guessing what you meant. The scene of the bedroom you cite occurs at 02:03:00 on DirecTV's East GeoSat feed of the episode. Here is what we are shown:
1. - 22 frames of static video (like a picture) of a bedroom showing two beds, bedding on the beds and a variety of clothing items in and adjacent to plastic clothes bins that may be used for laundry or storage - we don't know.
2. - 27 frames of static video from the same bedroom showing a chair, glass doored shelf unit and a built in table. A similar clothes basket is on the floor next to the shelf unit. Clothes and a cloth or clastic shopping bag is on top of clothes on the chair. Three to four plastic bottles are on the table. All are capped, none are open. This area is at the end of the bed on the left as one enters the room. In this view, the blue cloth on the chair in the 22 frames above has been removed. It was either removed by production or shot at a different time. This was shot shot from the edge of the left bed at a right angle to the video above.
3. - 22 frames of static video shot at about a 10 degree offset from the first still video above (#1) and appears to match the placement of clothing/items in #2 above but not #1. The shopping bag, slothing underneath and plastic bin to the left of the chair are in the picture. There are clothes on the floor.
4. -29 frames of static video shot at about a 12-15 degree offset from #1 above showing the same chair, the same clothing on the floor and a second plastic bin offset about two three feet from the first one seen in the video above.
5 -23 frames of static video of the table seen in #2 above. This is a close up of four distinct items, a pump action bottle of lotion, a closed bottle of water and a blue plastic vase with dried yellow daises. In the background there appears to be a pick sweater on the table.
In not one of the static frames above is there any visible indication of dirt, of open containers of anything, and absolutely no indication of food or unclean dishes. Unarguably, there is clutter, but there is no evidence of dirt. Clutter is not dirt, however. We have no idea if every piece of clothing seen is just out of the drier, removed from the visible store shopping bag, or removed from the person of Devyn or Katelynn only moments, hours or days earlier. Making assumptions based on the absence of evidence if not very smart in my opinion. If there were food on the floor or elsewhere in that bedroom, BMP would have show us. They didn't because they think most of us are complete fools and will buy completely into the shit they try to feed us.
On the issues Ryan had with Sarah - once again her interaction with JD didn't cause him to make up his mind about Sarah. He early on in the dailies displayed a dislike for Sarah being so nice. I think it was within the second or third week of dailies that he showed a dislike for her. Some people think nice people, or people who try to act proper towards others, are fake people. But there really are people who are capable of being very nice in just about every situation. Some people feel they should treat others with respect. His issue with her second guessing herself? Well, some people like to think before they speak or have enough information before they completely make up their minds. Sarah deciding not to deal with JD - that was her choice. I guess Ryan could see that as her not being completely nice to everyone all the time, but if he saw it that way, by his logic, couldn't he appreciate her more as a person since she decided she didn't want to deal with JD and didn't give in to his demands just to be nice and cordial? Maybe he thinks she should just say whatever is on her mind all the time without a filter for her to qualify as being real to him. While I wouldn't tell Ryan not to be up front with his feelings, I think he could learn some tact from Sarah. Sometimes it's just not appropriate to blurt out whatever you are thinking in any way or manner. It can be really rude and nasty - that is exactly what I have thought of him at times from watching the show, even though I don't think he is a bad person nor have I written him off so far (though I've complained about him). The situation with Sarah just bothers me because I am kind of like her from what I've seen. It's true that everyone won't like you, though, but I don't see why he is so upset and bothered by Sarah being nice.
[quote=livexfast;50628] People are saying how they would've been scared when JD broke the table, but no one in the room even flinched. I think that was just the only way he felt he could express himself since Sarah really did keep contradicting herself.
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Just because the cast did not flinch when JD broke the table doesn't mean that people here on this message board would react the same way. I don't react well to stuff like that. It is scary to me. I would have been shaking had he snatched the phone off the wall and out of my hand like he did to Devyn.
Anyway, Katelynn explained in this thread the reason the cast didn't flinch and why they didn't take any action to deal with the issue:
[quote=k8mnstr;50507]I wish I could say we were all astonished, surprised, and dismayed by JD's actions. To be completely honest though after two months of backstabbing, manipulation, flat-out lying, arrogance, and a displayed lack of concern for the feelings or welfare of others, outward aggression was just par for the course.
"He's emotionally decrepit, oh why [I]wouldn't[/I] he be crazy too?"
It wasn't the first thing he has thrown in the Hudson either. Like I said, JD has thrown more things into the Hudson river than the entire mafia during the late 80s.
The house at this point was 4 v 4, how are you going to get a majority vote to boot someone from the opposing team? In the end I'm pretty sure it would have been up to Diva, but she didn't approach that avenue for the sake of house stability. The boys' attitude was bad enough, could you even imagine how they would have reacted had she sent ADHJD home?[/quote]
Correct me if I'm wrong Kate, but it does not seem like the guys had a problem with Baya - they never argued with her or said anything bad about her. Now maybe they did and it wasn't shown. But to me it seems like its the boys vs Devyn, Sarah and Kate - not boys vs girls.
[quote=trees12;50672][/b]
You hit the nail on the head![/quote]
Come on people get off the soap box already. Chet and Ryan annoy me at times but I don't discuss that with every post I write.
[QUOTE=rwny4ever;50675]Correct me if I'm wrong Kate, but it does not seem like the guys had a problem with Baya - they never argued with her or said anything bad about her. Now maybe they did and it wasn't shown. But to me it seems like its the boys vs Devyn, Sarah and Kate - not boys vs girls.[/QUOTE]
After Ryan's little confession of love letter he went in the opposite direction and acted like an *** toward her. At that point in time Baya wasn't a huge fan of Ryan, and the boys thought that all the girls were lazy. Baya was taking dance cl***es but wasn't auditioning (for good reason), Devyn just "slept all day and talked on the phone" (in actuality she was the only one of us with a paying job, and she was collaborating with a local band), Sarah was on the hate list because she was "too nice", and all I did was "pole dance". I was frequently told to "go dance on my pole" whenever we would have a disagreement.
The boys felt that the girls were lazy and unmotivated. It was very much so guys vs girls.
[quote=k8mnstr;50677]After Ryan's little confession of love letter he went in the opposite direction and acted like an *** toward her. At that point in time Baya wasn't a huge fan of Ryan, and the boys thought that all the girls were lazy. Baya was taking dance cl***es but wasn't auditioning (for good reason), Devyn just "slept all day and talked on the phone" (in actuality she was the only one of us with a paying job, and she was collaborating with a local band), Sarah was on the hate list because she was "too nice", and all I did was "pole dance". [B]I was frequently told to "go dance on my pole" whenever we would have a disagreement.[/B]
The boys felt that the girls were lazy and unmotivated. It was very much so guys vs girls.[/quote]
So Ryan starting to dislike Baya after he wrote the love letter? Why was he even writing her love letters? Is this partly why Baya sought comfort in you and Sarah alot?
Wow by all the guys?
[quote=k8mnstr;50302]
And as for the gas in the car, there were plenty of mornings where, after the guys went out the night before [B]while the girls stayed in playing cards[/B], we received a car on empty.[/quote]
I've seen this shown a few times, and I must say, THAT'S the kind of Real World I'd like to be on...Hanging with the girls, having some drinks, playing cards....:D
What did you girls like to play?
[QUOTE=trees12;50678]So Ryan starting to dislike Baya after he wrote the love letter? Why was he even writing her love letters? Is this partly why Baya sought comfort in you and Sarah alot?
Wow by all the guys?[/QUOTE]
Yes, to everything.
[QUOTE=OtherPplsDrama;50681]I've seen this shown a few times, and I must say, THAT'S the kind of Real World I'd like to be on...Hanging with the girls, having some drinks, playing cards....:D
What did you girls like to play?[/QUOTE]
Our game was Spades, or Gin Rummy if it were just Sarah, Baya, and I.
[quote=k8mnstr;50683]Yes, to everything.
Our game was Spades, or Gin Rummy if it were just Sarah, Baya, and I.[/quote]
That was rude of the guys to say. Ryan was very childish to play those games with Baya.
Did Devyn like to play a different card game or something?
[QUOTE=trees12;50685]Did Devyn like to play a different card game or something?[/QUOTE]
No, but there were many times that you had to work to get Devyn to the card table. We all loved our Spades nights but Diva would get distracted by $boyoftheweek on the phone or via e-mail. She may have enjoyed sleeping in most days, but that was because she worked her *** off at night going to band practices or gigs. As a result sometimes it took a little effort to get her to the card table.
[quote=k8mnstr;50677]After Ryan's little confession of love letter he went in the opposite direction and acted like an *** toward her. At that point in time Baya wasn't a huge fan of Ryan, and the boys thought that all the girls were lazy. Baya was taking dance cl***es but wasn't auditioning (for good reason), Devyn just "slept all day and talked on the phone" (in actuality she was the only one of us with a paying job, and she was collaborating with a local band), Sarah was on the hate list because she was "too nice", and all I did was "pole dance". I was frequently told to "go dance on my pole" whenever we would have a disagreement.
The boys felt that the girls were lazy and unmotivated. It was very much so guys vs girls.[/quote]
Ah ok another mystery cleared up - Kate you rule! :D
[quote=k8mnstr;50686]No, but there were many times that you had to work to get Devyn to the card table. We all loved our Spades nights but Diva would get distracted by $boyoftheweek on the phone or via e-mail. She may have enjoyed sleeping in most days, but that was because she worked her *** off at night going to band practices or gigs. As a result sometimes it took a little effort to get her to the card table.[/quote]
Oh, okay!
Yet the some of the boys made like she did nothing all day and everything was handed to her. Why didn't they give Devyn credit for anything.
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