[QUOTE=joseph2852;247438]Looks like it means whatever the person speaking wants it to mean. Clear as mud. Probably my imagination is too vivid.[/QUOTE]
I know some people who use "hooking up" so loosely that they are talking about just chilling with the member of the other sex without anything romantic going on. It seems like on TV it gets used to mean anything from flirting to kissing to sex.
[QUOTE=CrazyHorse;247437]I don't think Dustin and Cooke did anything but kiss based on a tweet Heather sent Cookie once. Dustin and Heather have a weird relationship for sure. One of the Real World Daily vids made me think they both were bringing people home during their break since Dustin said something about her having guys spend the night. I think they might be back together now, but I am not sure. It appears like they are together hot and heavy when they are at the same appearances and Heather strings him along when they are not in the same places.[/QUOTE]
Yes i got that impression too. Heather did a pod cast that she said the were both hooking up with other people during that time. Whatever hooking up means to her. It does appear that they are together, heather has a youtube vid of christmas with dustin and "dustins first snow video "also...which had to be taken in december or January.
Has anyone listened to Derrick's new podcast with Dustin? If so would you mind writing a little summary of what was said? My computer is down and my phone won't play it. What did he say about Mike,Heather,and doing fratpad?
[QUOTE=PaintedVeil;248501]Has anyone listened to Derrick's new podcast with Dustin? If so would you mind writing a little summary of what was said? My computer is down and my phone won't play it. What did he say about Mike,Heather,and doing fratpad?[/QUOTE]he just posted the second half of the podcast...basic points
explains that fratpad was about the money does not bother him what ppl think, haters come up to him and ask him how **** tastes and he just laughs them off "you actually took the time from your night to come over to me, tell you what I got a number you can call and find out"
He basically says him and heather are dating...when talking about his argument/beef with adam king...he tried to correct himself. He said it is obvious we are dating..and mean that we have a thing or whatever.
He says he really tried with mike, tried to do nice things for him but mike no use. Said you can't really argue with mike about things, said he had opinions about things or like government things, and did not always have all the info but Mike spent hours online just researching things, and mike is antigovernment and think the usa is ruining the world, dustin is a patriot and supports his country no matter what those are the basics. I like dustin and I liked the interview
I don't know why nobody will really puts Dustin under the microscope in these interviews. I think he is an ok guy, but his stories just don't seem to add up in my thinking. He talks like he went out there to do Fratpad and it was not a gay place and he did the other stuff later down the road, but in other places he indicates that Fratpad started after he got there. Since in the Derrick interview he said the harder core stuff happens at Fratman TV, it would seem logical to me that he started with Fratman TV doing the hard core movies first and then went to the softer core Fratpad afterwords and then finished doing hard core pay per view movies at Fratpad. If that was the case, then he didn't end up doing hard core gay so much as he went in doing it. Its not a big thing to me as to what Dustin did so much as it makes me believe he is still in some sort of emotional denial about it all and isn't really being honest when he acts like he is perfectly okay with it all, has no issues, would do it again; would let his son do it if he wanted to sort of stuff. I am sure it isn't an easy place to be in right now and maybe he doesn't want to give the haters power over him by giving them more ammunition to use against him, but there is still something not quite sequential about the way he has discussed this stuff. As bent out of shape as he was with Mike about the school comment and as emotional as he was with Leroy about the monster feelings, Dustin must have changed way more since December than I can see based on what I pick up on the interviews and podcasts.
Every model starts at Fratmen TV in exactly the same way. they do a solo nude pictorial and a solo ************ video. That is all that happens at FMTV until the so called Alumni Weekends, which one does not participate in until after they have been with the orginization for awhile. In the Alumni Weekends, a couple of the models MIGHT do an oral sex scene but this does not always happen and most of the models never perform even to this degree. The one and only **** performance shown by either site was a Duo Pay Per View scene done at FRATPAD over a year after Dustin started at Fratpad. There was a clear and unambiguous progression in the explicitness of the activities that Dustin engaged in during his time with Fratman TV / Fratpad. Any confusion about this is due to the fact that Dustin is not a very effective communicator and can sometimes speak before thinking and thus muddle his points. Everything in this post is DIRECT knowledge from a former member of both Fratmen TV and Fratpad, me. :)
[QUOTE=CrazyHorse;248807]I don't know why nobody will really puts Dustin under the microscope in these interviews. I think he is an ok guy, but his stories just don't seem to add up in my thinking. He talks like he went out there to do Fratpad and it was not a gay place and he did the other stuff later down the road, but in other places he indicates that Fratpad started after he got there. Since in the Derrick interview he said the harder core stuff happens at Fratman TV, it would seem logical to me that he started with Fratman TV doing the hard core movies first and then went to the softer core Fratpad afterwords and then finished doing hard core pay per view movies at Fratpad. If that was the case, then he didn't end up doing hard core gay so much as he went in doing it. Its not a big thing to me as to what Dustin did so much as it makes me believe he is still in some sort of emotional denial about it all and isn't really being honest when he acts like he is perfectly okay with it all, has no issues, would do it again; would let his son do it if he wanted to sort of stuff. I am sure it isn't an easy place to be in right now and maybe he doesn't want to give the haters power over him by giving them more ammunition to use against him, but there is still something not quite sequential about the way he has discussed this stuff. As bent out of shape as he was with Mike about the school comment and as emotional as he was with Leroy about the monster feelings, Dustin must have changed way more since December than I can see based on what I pick up on the interviews and podcasts.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the clarification.
I think dustin summed it best when he basically said I think of women when I fantasize and I am attracted to women most,but given the circumstances I did it to make money, I am comfortable with it and who I am. Just as a gay guy might consider having sex with a woman for his income.
My personal opinion is that he seems like a thoughtful, considerate person for the most part and pretty at ease in his skin. He has issues, everyone does. I actually have come to like him, my first impression was not favorable, but he has grown on me a lot and I am pretty sure he will do good things.
The other issue I have with Dustin I forgot to mention is his reasoning for what motivated him to do it. In interviews like the Derrick podcasts he references he did it for the easy money since he didn't know what he wanted to do. Sometimes on the show it seems like he was trying to run from a bad situation at home. I could have been for both reasons, but trying to escape a bad situation has different implications than "Hey, easy money. Why not?"
Thanks for posting rallen!
CrazyHorse, I've been wondering the same thing. With past interviews and with the cast it was always that he was desperate for money, but now it's because he could not get a cool job and was to lazy for a real one. Or maybe now he is more comfortable telling the truth. He was in New York hanging out with the President of Fratpad, I wonder if he will help with the site, not doing **** but with the production and stuff. His fued with Adam is so random,lol. Dustin tweeted that Adam came up to Heather and said something about Dustin to her during Spring Break. I wonder what it was? Because that was during the time they broke up.
[QUOTE=PaintedVeil;248888]Thanks for posting rallen!
CrazyHorse, I've been wondering the same thing. With past interviews and with the cast it was always that he was desperate for money, but now it's because he could not get a cool job and was to lazy for a real one. Or maybe now he is more comfortable telling the truth. He was in New York hanging out with the President of Fratpad, I wonder if he will help with the site, not doing **** but with the production and stuff. His fued with Adam is so random,lol. Dustin tweeted that Adam came up to Heather and said something about Dustin to her during Spring Break. I wonder what it was? Because that was during the time they broke up.[/QUOTE]
[U][B]WRONG ADAM[/B][/U]! That was Adam King from the Challenges, not Adam Royer from Vegas who said something to Heather M. I think that guy he is in NYC with is a former performer who manages the house for Fratpad now but not the owner Chet was talking about. Still weird, and I wondered the same thing.
Um,lol,I know it was Adam King. I did not put Royer. I saw their fued on twitter. That's why I said it's random,they don't even know each other. The guy he was hanging out with in New York is the President of Fratpad, the guy Chet was talking about is the Hostmaster.
Saille,okay,woops my bad. I just assumed it because he had PREZ in his twitter name. Since you are in the know, do you know if Dustin is doing anything with Fratpad as far as production? Because he was in Arizona at a convention the beginning of this year reppin for the site.
[QUOTE=CrazyHorse;248887]The other issue I have with Dustin I forgot to mention is his reasoning for what motivated him to do it. In interviews like the Derrick podcasts he references he did it for the easy money since he didn't know what he wanted to do. Sometimes on the show it seems like he was trying to run from a bad situation at home. I could have been for both reasons, but trying to escape a bad situation has different implications than "Hey, easy money. Why not?"[/QUOTE]
I thought that the reason he went to do the Fratmen TV was to get away, but the reason he took it to another level was more money.
My Fratpad info is about a Year old. I haven't been a member since last March so I don't know what he's doing with them now. I do know that it's very unlikely that he will ever be allowed back on camera there as the fratpad has always had a strict policy of exclusivity. Any model who is found out to have appeared anywhere else in any capacity is cut loose and never allowed back. However, Dustin is good friends with Leo, who is a sometimes model who is the behind the scenes manager of the sites day to day activities so it's possible that he was seen hanging with Leo.
[QUOTE=Saille;248926] Any model who is found out to have appeared anywhere else in any capacity is cut loose and never allowed back. However, Dustin is good friends with Leo, who is a sometimes model who is the behind the scenes manager of the sites day to day activities so it's possible that he was seen hanging with Leo.[/QUOTE]
That stinks? But for Dustin he don't need them anyway. That site sucks and is to damn strict.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;248932]That stinks? But for Dustin he don't need them anyway. That site sucks and is to damn strict.[/QUOTE]
They're actually so strict about keeping member contact with the models under their control that they cancel the membership of anyone who even learns a models real name. Even hinting at such knowledge can get you banned from the site.
But Saille, that's pretty damn ridiculous. People are gonna know their real name anyway because people will recognize them around the way. Around the way meaning people who went to school with them, work with them, etc.
I think before it was not stupid to have that rule,but now after the Real World,it might be. Dustin gave the site alot of publicity,so I figure it would be hard to protect the privacy. I heard that some members have even left due to this.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;248944]Why would they leave though? What does it have to do with them?[/QUOTE]
My guess is they are in the closet and are afraid that somebody may be more inclined to track them down and out them but that is just a guess. They don't need Dustin to comeback. He is getting kind of old looking for a site that serves up young guys so they can just re-edit his movies 100 different ways and sell them for the next five years as new **** (again just a guess).
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;248935]But Saille, that's pretty damn ridiculous. People are gonna know their real name anyway because people will recognize them around the way. Around the way meaning people who went to school with them, work with them, etc.[/QUOTE]
For the most part, the models don't tell people whom they know about their Fratpad lives and it's pretty unlikely (but not impossible) that someone they know will join the site. If this does happen both the member and the model in question know to keep this information to themselves to avoid trouble.
[QUOTE=PaintedVeil;248939]I think before it was not stupid to have that rule,but now after the Real World,it might be. Dustin gave the site alot of publicity,so I figure it would be hard to protect the privacy. I heard that some [B]members [/B]have even left due to this.[/QUOTE]
I am going to assume that when you say "members" you mean Models. The Members are the ones who pay for access to the site, not the ones on camera.
My bigger problem with Dustin isn't the gay hypocrisy. I can't really say I have any basis to understand that or what may have been going on in his head. It's the other stuff. He talks about how hard he tried to be friends with Mike and how he didn't have guys to hang out with in Vegas when Adam left. I can't tell you how many daily clips I saw where it seemed like Dustin was always piled right on top of Heather. Even in clips not focusing on them, you can see him practically attached at her hip in the background when the others are doing things or talking. Maybe she likes that, but it looked to me like he was suffocating her. I think people who feel a need to flaunt their relationships are insecure and weak charactered. Mike was open to enjoying Vegas and doing new things which makes me end up liking him better than Dustin (who's still a decent person) who basically shut the world out once Heather wagged her tail.
So... I dont want to broadcast my hobby of watching gay ****. but I just randomly stumbled upon the video that Mike Mike was talking about at the reunion of Dustin doing waaaaaaaayyy more than he let anyone think (mainly because the video has been taken off the web until yesterday). All I have to say is..wow.
Yeah I happen to visit a popular **** site whose name ill keep to myself but all the videos he did seem to still be there including one with him skinheaded.
Anyway I have nothing against Dustin other than him telling fibs he didn't do anything significant.
[QUOTE=Saille;248950]For the most part, the models don't tell people whom they know about their Fratpad lives and it's pretty unlikely (but not impossible) that someone they know will join the site. If this does happen both the member and the model in question know to keep this information to themselves to avoid trouble.[/QUOTE]
I figured that as it does make a lot of sense Saille. I just also find it rather suspicious that they who come on TRW and expect people to be naive about it.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;281772]Yeah I happen to visit a popular **** site whose name ill keep to myself but all the videos he did seem to still be there [B]including one with him skinheaded.[/B]
Anyway I have nothing against Dustin other than him telling fibs he didn't do anything significant.[/QUOTE]
my fav ;)
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;281773]I figured that as it does make a lot of sense Saille. I just also find it rather suspicious that they who come on TRW and expect people to be naive about it.[/QUOTE]
I took him at his word he planned to tell people. He's not my favorite from the season, let alone the show, but I think either he or MTV missed a real opportunity to turn that into something beyond another relationship fight.
I think Dustin is going to be on the next challenge, he hinted to someone on twitter that they will see him back on t.v., and I did some digging and his gym on facebook posted something like come hang out with Dustin Zito as he trains for the RW/RR Challenge!!!
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