Going back to Rivals II if you don't include Emily & Paula who were the 2nd best female competitors?
Cara & Cooke? although they never did well in missions? But consider them going first most of the time.
Jemmye and Camilla?
Jonna and Nany? Don't forget them coming in 2nd in the first 3 missions and then the top 3.
I don't think any of the other teams were on par with these 3 female teams. Theresa and Jasmine had potential in my opinion..
[QUOTE=timster3;394638]Going back to Rivals II if you don't include Emily & Paula who were the 2nd best female competitors?
Cara & Cooke? although they never did well in missions? But consider them going first most of the time.
Jemmye and Camilla?
Jonna and Nany? Don't forget them coming in 2nd in the first 3 missions and then the top 3.
I don't think any of the other teams were on par with these 3 female teams. Theresa and Jasmine had potential in my opinion..[/QUOTE]
Jonna and Nany but the issue was them was that they were going to struggle in any elimination round. Very good in most missions but them losing an elimination round was a given. Had they reached the final I think they'd have given Emily & Paula a decent run...better than Cooke/Cara or Jemmye/Camila anyway. They would have probably crushed the puzzle in the first leg
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;394634]Sarah was far more impressive than Ashley on Seasons.[/QUOTE]
I think Sarah just stood out more because her team was pathetic other than her but I can go along with that. I mean, Ashley was never a liability (nor was Sarah) and was impressive throughout. JMO. Sarah loves camera time...Ashley didn't want a second of it; just the cash
Ashley was sleeping with JD the whole time duh that's why she was never on camera lol.but I think Sarah did better because she did win 2 eliminations, but Ashleys win against Jonna was impressive especially considering it was mental.
Jonna & Nany did really well in the missions, I wish we could have seen them do rampage I think they would have at least done better then Camilla & Jemmye and Aneesa & Diem
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;394647]Ashley was sleeping with JD the whole time duh that's why she was never on camera lol.but I think Sarah did better because she did win 2 eliminations, but Ashleys win against Jonna was impressive especially considering it was mental.
Jonna & Nany did really well in the missions, I wish we could have seen them do rampage I think they would have at least done better then Camilla & Jemmye and Aneesa & Diem[/QUOTE]
I mean "Snapper" IMO was the dumbest elimination round ever...absolutely stupid and we had to see it twice.
I think they would have struggled with Rampage...They would have crushed Color Correction though
[QUOTE=kvm1977;394650]I mean "Snapper" IMO was the dumbest elimination round ever...absolutely stupid and we had to see it twice.
I think they would have struggled with Rampage...They would have crushed Color Correction though[/QUOTE]
Second dumbest IMO hanging by a thread was.
Yeah they definitely would have done great in that and I think if Sarah didn't have a terrible partner she would have crushed the final also
Sarah was the leader of her team, single-handedly won a mission for her team, went into two eliminations, was not in the majority alliance and still made the final. Ashley was solid, but she never necessarily stepped up or did anything noteworthy. I'll also nevee forget her trivia mission performance, lol.
I also think Jonna/Nany were the second beat female team. Camila/Jemmye fell apart in a few missions and Cara/Cooke consistently struggled because of Cara.
I'm loving the Jonna/Nany love :). I agree I really wanted to see how they'd compete in the Rampage mission, they obviously wouldn't win but I feel like we never get to see real tough physical missions or eliminations with these two.
They would've for sure made it to part 2 if they were in the finals and guarenteed top 2. And I agree if they had good endurance, they could give Emily & Paula a run for their money.. but I see them failing in the food eating part or carrying the heavy things which sucks :(. But I would love to see both of them make a final for once. >_>
Oh and I totally agree about Snapper. I don't know what was worse that or the rope cutting.. at least the rope cutting was more legit. I pray next season we do not get one of those dumb elimination rounds but they do it every season... *sighs*
[QUOTE=timster3;394687]I'm loving the Jonna/Nany love :). I agree I really wanted to see how they'd compete in the Rampage mission, they obviously wouldn't win but I feel like we never get to see real tough physical missions or eliminations with these two.
They would've for sure made it to part 2 if they were in the finals and guarenteed top 2. And I agree if they had good endurance, they could give Emily & Paula a run for their money.. but I see them failing in the food eating part or carrying the heavy things which sucks :(. But I would love to see both of them make a final for once. >_>[/QUOTE]
Well we don't know about Nany but Jonna is good at eating gross things, she did well on hunger games from seasons.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;394626]I don't think a lot of these were "great performances"...you're looking more at storline IMO
Landon > Evan Duel II by a landslide
Cohutta had a couple nice elimination wins but wasn't a great competitor IMO
Exes definitely wasn't Ty and Paula--they were, at best, average...while Ty was carried by Emily IMO
Good decision to skip Seasons IMO--I'd pick Ashley because even though she got no camera time[/QUOTE]
I forgot about Landon on The Duel 2. Yeah he won the most challenges but Evan went into the Duel 3 times (yes I know the competitors weren't great) and he won the entire show. In my opinion the hardest challenge in history just because of the cast.
I really could not pinpoint any other guy on The Ruins who shined. The guys that won flew under the radar and only Johnny went in once at the very end. Cohutta was an underdog and competed at a level no one expected him to plus he beat Wes and Syrus. Had a pretty good run in my opinion.
I made a mistake on saying Ty and Paula. I meant to say Ty and Emily. Sure Johnny & Camila won, but when I think of a great challenge performance I think of the team that went through the most to get to the end or to win and I thought it was Ty and Emily. I think they came the furtherest as a pair and they were constantly going into the Dome and they beat pretty legit teams.
I don't understand why you would choose Ashley. I really don't. I didn't watch the entire season of Battle of the Seasons but of the 8-9 episode I did watch, I completely forgot she was even there. She never shined on any of the challenges and she got a free ride to the end pretty much. I mean Sam had a better challenge performance in my opinion because she actually went in twice and muscled through all the B.S. her team was giving her the whole time. Saying Ashley had the greatest challenge performance on Seasons is like saying Jenn had the great challenge performance on Rivals.
[QUOTE=El Scorcho;394707]
I don't understand why you would choose Ashley. I really don't. I didn't watch the entire season of Battle of the Seasons but of the 8-9 episode I did watch, I completely forgot she was even there. She never shined on any of the challenges and she got a free ride to the end pretty much. I mean Sam had a better challenge performance in my opinion because she actually went in twice and muscled through all the B.S. her team was giving her the whole time. Saying Ashley had the greatest challenge performance on Seasons is like saying Jenn had the great challenge performance on Rivals.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't consider Ashley to be top notch on Seasons either but she did win the last elimination round before the final, so she didn't get get a completely free ride. Jenn on the other hand got a free ride all the way through Rivals without having to prove herself once. Jenn may have been sick, but she burnt out in that final pretty quickly while Ashley did pretty well on hers. Jenn on Rivals was less impressive than Ashley on Seasons IMO.
[QUOTE=CHIblackhawk;394709]I wouldn't consider Ashley to be top notch on Seasons either but she did win the last elimination round before the final, so she didn't get get a completely free ride. Jenn on the other hand got a free ride all the way through Rivals without having to prove herself once. Jenn may have been sick, but she burnt out in that final pretty quickly while Ashley did pretty well on hers. Jenn on Rivals was less impressive than Ashley on Seasons IMO.[/QUOTE]
Okay fine Jenn from Fresh Meat II then. Any difference? They both won the last elimination round, flew under the radar, won a challenge, etc. My point is, no one says that Jenn had a great challenge performance on Fresh Meat II, so why say that Ashley did on Seasons when they pretty much did the same stuff on each challenge.
Regarding Ashley--you don't need to win elimination rounds IMO to be strong. Ashley won the only one she saw and was great in every single mission...endurance, strength, willing to eat anything. Ashley was money--it was her or Sarah--no one else is in even the discussion
Are we forgetting Ashley's trivia mission performance? I agree that someone being just solid in missions can't qualify as the best performance. Sarah easily beats her there.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;394739]Are we forgetting Ashley's trivia mission performance? I agree that someone being just solid in missions can't qualify as the best performance. Sarah easily beats her there.[/QUOTE]
She missed a trivia question and therefore she sucks--is this for real
If we want to say Sarah was better that's fine but Ashley is dismissed simply because she didn't want a second or air time and didn't get a second. The girl was great throughout (minus a question she didn't know)
Sometimes I think people just want give credit when they don't like someone
That would actually hold some weight if I didn't like Ashley. I like her quite a bit actually.
Her answer was there are 21 continents. That definitely holds some weight. I really don't know how Ashley can be considered the best female performer when she did nothing as far as politics go and was just decent as a competitor. I do like her, but it's not adding up.
[QUOTE=Youssarian;394790]For some reason I can barely remember Seasons, but didn't Jonna perform really well also?[/QUOTE]
If you mean rode Zach's d*** as good then yes she performed very well
[QUOTE=hafnerfan69;394795]If you mean rode Zach's d*** as good then yes she performed very well[/QUOTE]
Please, if anything Zach hurt her game. She was far better at strategy than Zach/Frank/NOLA but they didn't listen to her--cost them big time.
Jonna performed solidly as she typically does...not elite by any stretch but Jonna is rarely, if ever, a liability.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;394799]Please, if anything Zach hurt her game. She was far better at strategy than Zach/Frank/NOLA but they didn't listen to her--cost them big time.
Jonna performed solidly as she typically does...not elite by any stretch but Jonna is rarely, if ever, a liability.[/QUOTE]
What was her strategy? I mean she did good, her and Derek probably would have done really good in the final and if it was her and CJ vs Zach & Sam then maybe she would have won( probably not considering Sam is bigger then her)
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;394804]What was her strategy? I mean she did good, her and Derek probably would have done really good in the final and if it was her and CJ vs Zach & Sam then maybe she would have won( probably not considering Sam is bigger then her)[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure she was vocal about wanting Vegas out when they still wanted to throw Brooklyn in against NOLA after the trivia mission.
People like to say she rode coattails for whatever reason when she consistently performed well.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;394804]What was her strategy? I mean she did good, her and Derek probably would have done really good in the final and if it was her and CJ vs Zach & Sam then maybe she would have won( probably not considering Sam is bigger then her)[/QUOTE]
Jonna isn't beating Sam in that elimination round--she knew that--and she didn't believe for a second that CJ would beat Zach. She was wrong on that--if either of them made a mistake though it was CJ. That said, Derek & Jonna probably run away with the final if they get there.
Jonna tried to explain the simple logic that throwing in Brooklyn against NOLA2 was stupid and they weren't being strategic. She knew Sarah & Chet would win then come after them. They needed to throw in Vegas and only Jonna was smart enough to see that.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;394807]Jonna isn't beating Sam in that elimination round--she knew that--and she didn't believe for a second that CJ would beat Zach. She was wrong on that--if either of them made a mistake though it was CJ. That said, Derek & Jonna probably run away with the final if they get there.
Jonna tried to explain the simple logic that throwing in Brooklyn against NOLA2 was stupid and they weren't being strategic. She knew Sarah & Chet would win then come after them. They needed to throw in Vegas and only Jonna was smart enough to see that.[/QUOTE]
Ah I see, IMO Preston & McKenzie weren't going to win against anyone maybe Trishelle & Alton because they'd both quit
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;394808]Ah I see, IMO Preston & McKenzie weren't going to win against anyone maybe Trishelle & Alton because they'd both quit[/QUOTE]
I don't necessarily disagree but they could have worked closely with Brooklyn at that point. You use power to create deals--they didn't think and just listened to Knight--it was stupid all around. Jonna's not Coral, Veronica or Susie when it comes to strategy but she understands the game very well
Ruthie - Battle of the Sexes: Need I explain?
Sarah - The Gauntlet: Her entire team was against her and she won 5 gauntlets, defeating 2 males in the process.
CT - Inferno and Inferno 2: Won the most lifesavers and made the finals at both. Lost because the RW team just wasn't as strong and the ****** were having a meltdown in the final mission.
Kina, Derrick, and Alton - The Gauntlet 2: They were the top dogs of the challenge
Coral and Evan - Fresh Meat: Won 5/10 missions they competed in and got second place in another. They also threw a challenge for the heck of it so might as well make it 5/9 missions. Had they not gotten injured they definitely would have kept domination this season.
Jodi - The Duel: Self-explanatory.
Ev - The Island: Won 2 face-offs in spectacular fashion and took on Johnny and his alliance.
Kenny of Fresh Meat 2: Politically speaking, the way he completely dismantled Wes' alliance was brilliant.
[QUOTE=lionheart;402635]Ruthie - Battle of the Sexes: Need I explain?
Sarah - The Gauntlet: Her entire team was against her and she won 5 gauntlets, defeating 2 males in the process.
CT - Inferno and Inferno 2: Won the most lifesavers and made the finals at both. Lost because the RW team just wasn't as strong and the ****** were having a meltdown in the final mission.
Kina, Derrick, and Alton - The Gauntlet 2: They were the top dogs of the challenge
Coral and Evan - Fresh Meat: Won 5/10 missions they competed in and got second place in another. They also threw a challenge for the heck of it so might as well make it 5/9 missions. Had they not gotten injured they definitely would have kept domination this season.
Jodi - The Duel: Self-explanatory.
Ev - The Island: Won 2 face-offs in spectacular fashion and took on Johnny and his alliance.
Kenny of Fresh Meat 2: Politically speaking, the way he completely dismantled Wes' alliance was brilliant.[/QUOTE]
Agreed with all of this. Great analysis.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;394746]That would actually hold some weight if I didn't like Ashley. I like her quite a bit actually.
Her answer was there are 21 continents. That definitely holds some weight. I really don't know how Ashley can be considered the best female performer when she did nothing as far as politics go and was just decent as a competitor. I do like her, but it's not adding up.[/QUOTE]
She wasn't just decent, she was actually a pretty good competitor and one could make an argument that she was the best female competitor on Seasons.
[QUOTE=AshKelseyFan;402638]She wasn't just decent, she was actually a pretty good competitor and one could make an argument that she was the best female competitor on Seasons.[/QUOTE]
The only really worthy thing she was shown doing was finish the finals. Everyone knows she can run, but she didn't really do much outside of that. A lot of girls can run finals nowadays so that's not a really rare ability anymore.
Other then that, she was the last one from her team to climb down the ladder on the first challenge(even Sam beat her) and she also took a while to beat Jasmine in the oil wrestling. Everything else was just kind of blah and nothing note worthy until the final, where anyone would look running next to Sam. Trishelle finished that final too.
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