[quote=jones10389;78992]Yeah same i mean out of the final 3 guys who make it Evan to me is actually the only guy who earned his spot he goes in 4 duels wins all 4. Brad beating Landon on the last duel anytime you beat Landon that earns you a spot. Mark lol Mark is Mark always makes it to the end.[/quote]
Yea but when are we going to see him a duel battling it out? I can't wait to see the Brad and Landon battle
[quote=Ms. Dynasty;78995]Yea but when are we going to see him a duel battling it out? I can't wait to see the Brad and Landon battle[/quote]
Free ride for Mark. I think Evan, Landon, and Brad could all beat out Mark. At first I got angry with Brad, but atleast he entered a duel. Mark and Brad are definitely reeping all the benefits from this Mark-Evan-Brad "secret" alliance. They better thank Landon for getting them to the end. Atleast Evan entered duels..and won each time. Evan, sadly, got all the heat for the secret alliance.
On a side note, does anyone think Evan and Brad had an upper hand at Duel II because both competed in Duel I? Knowing the name of the game and such? Landon has only done team challenges (Inferno II and Gauntlet II) and same with Mark. Just curious what you all think.
Also I wonder..does anyone feel that MJ made a dumb mistake picking Evan for the duel? I am unsure who won the daily challenge, I am going to guess Mark or Landon. I doubt MJ would pick Landon since they have been friends since their Philly RW season. So if Mark wins challenge, picking Brad or picking Evan and vice versa if Brad won challenge. And if Landon wins, MJ could pick Brad, Evan, or Mark. Why Evan?
I know Evan gets rattled a little bit, but I think that is really fading and he is gaining obvious confidence.
What I don't get is why these eliminated players keep picking Evan. The more you are in the Duel the more confident and knowledgeable you get, no? Why not bring in someone who has no Duel II experience? It seems a bit more even. The same went for Exile on Fresh Meat. Why keep throwing in someone who keeps winning and has played just about all of the Duel games? Who knows. Silly MJ and Derrick.
I would have picked Brad, I think Evan is the stronger player.
Mark has never been one on one with anybody in an elimination round, it would be interesting to see that.
I also think Evan, Lando and Brad could beat Mark. Throughout his whole challenge career, he has never entered an elimination round. I'm really glad Evan proved himself to make it to the end.
Yeah I think Brad and Evan as well as Aneesa may have had an upperhand in the game, because they already knew for the most part how the Duel game goes.
I think MJ's close with Brad that why he won't pick him. Everyone there respects Mark and probably won't call him out. MJ probably thought he had a better shot going against Evan. Also I think alot of people kept calling Evan into the duel, because they saw him as a threat at the end.
Many in this cast who did not participate in Duel I not only had the opportunity to watch past video, they also talked at length with Duel I cast members and others who provided significant insight into the game design and cast interaction. Thus, I think there was a relatively level playing field.
Evan is usually perceived as a threat but his performance on the Duel 2 missions aren't anything to brag about. He was the top person on FM, the 2nd biggest threat on the Duel (CT was first), and was a target on Gauntlet 3. I wouldn't want Evan there in the end as my opponent, but on this challenge, Evan hasn't really had the upper hand like usual.
That being said, I think the ones to watch out for the most were Landon and Mark.
Brad has been doing mediocre along with Evan but I think Evan is physically stronger. If I was Nedermeyer or Davis, I would have picked Brad. (nothing against him because I like him a lot, just looking at this from my perspective)
Brad is also just a really nice guy, along with Mark, so that is why in my opinion, nobody wants to pick them.
Although, I feel like if people picked people they thought they could beat, instead of saving their friends or trying to take out the top dogs, this game would be way different.
And I'm still waiting to see the Tori that everyone is afraid to go against. Rachel and Brittni are the two top competitors there, just my opinion.
[quote=tjhallow;79087]I would have picked Brad, I think Evan is the stronger player.
[B]Mark has never been one on one with anybody in an elimination round, it would be interesting to see that[/B].[/quote]
To be honest, I think people respect him too much to call him out. Just like Timmy on I3 some 1 said he wasn't supposed to leave. Plus: Mark steped it up and won a few challenges! In his "old" age, thats pretty good =)
Nehemiah and Davis picked Evan because they felt he was the leader of the alliance. MJ picks Evan because he is close with Landon and probably became good friends with Mark and Brad from Gauntlet 2. Also, though in an eliminated round, Evan is probably better then Brad, on this challenge, Brad has performed better on the missions (ladder climbing one, the carvings one they did last week, the rope pulling challenge, the ice block push one). The only one Evan did better was on the first mission which doesn't really count because Brad got picked out to be the person not going into the Duel and I don't think they gave us the times for the one where the guys held the girls over the big fall. All in all, I think they both are good and I would go for someone who I felt was the ringleader, which they think Evan is.
Yeah i agree that Mark is well respected so that reason alone nobody wanted to call him out. I understand why MJ called out Evan i don't think it was personal Just say Landon wins the misson Mark and MJ are close friends so he would not call out Mark. Brad is fighting for a life with Tori and MJ is married so i think that's why he chooses Evan. Do they play the Elevator?. Also are you sure Tori dosen't go home this week it looks like she is ready to leave so maybe Annessa calls her out and Diem leaves next week.
I mean I get friendships, and leader of the alliances and whatnot but I think it is just sheer stupidity. If you want the money, go get the money. Pick the competitor you feel most confident against. I can see MJ not picking Landon because they were same season, good friends, even got matching tattoos. But since when is MJ loyal to Mark or Brad?
Fact is, yeah, people thought Evan was the "leader" of the alliance but he hasn't won challenges or safety and has been in the Duel the most. He keeps coming back. You would think MJ, who has been in the duel twice, would realize going in the Duel and winning is a confidence booster and a bit of an upper hand. Yeah, you can watch something...but your not in there doing it, realizing how hard it is, while your opponent has done the Duel already and is breezing through. Why not throw Mark or Brad in there who has not been in yet? I get respect, but come on, if that person is in your way to 100g's you would think yourself means more.
Brad or Mark just seems like the better choice, especially for MJ in terms of Brad and size. Guess we will just have to wait and see Mj's thought process on Wednesday.
But hey, I guess this game is more a game of get old, befriend everyone, have some fights with your girlfriendor throw some fashion shows and you get your way into the final.
Personally I don't think anyone deserves the money more than anyone whos not putting it to a better cause..If you win duels and earn your spot there and kick ***, then that shows you deserve the money.. It doesnt matter whether someone has a family or that someones about to get married, I'd still throw them into the duel..You want that money? Then show me..Maybe this sounds cruel but the duel s a cruel competition and i'm sure they will be back to try to win that money again..
I agree 100 percent you have to call out the person you feel you can beat.Now MJ i think picked the wrong person Evan did 3 Dules and kicked *** in all 3. MJ should have choosen Brad i don't think anybody left is a weak player but MJ has a big size and i think strength advantage over Brad or if he wanted to be fair he matches up best with Mark height wise strength wise. Also maybe it's just me but did Evan gain some weight since Duel 1 and Gaunlet 3 he looks a little heavy ive started noticing it alot the last few episodes.
[quote=tjhallow;79340]LOL Evan is huge!!
There is a huge difference from when he was on Fresh Meat/ The Duel to what he looks like on Gauntlet 3 and now The Duel 2.[/quote]
Indeed. I mean I know he hasn't been owning this season like he did Fresh Meat, and The Duel I, but still. Stop taking him to the duel, your sending yourself home as the little "friendly and respectable" but equally slimy players cruise controls to the final.
I wish CT was actually on this show and didn't get himself kicked. It would be such a showdown, way better than Duel I, I think.
[quote=dplayer18;79345]Yeah Evan got bigger. I think he is capable of beating all the remaining guys in duels, even Lando.[/quote]
As much as I love and obsessed with Lando, I would have to agree. There is only a few people I rank at Lando level and above. CT and Alton are two of them, and I think Evan is getting there.
I am sure this challenge did the opposite for most people, but it made me become an Evan fan and hate the arguably "respected". So as much as I love Lando, if I wanted anyone else to win the final, it would be Evan =) He earned it more than the other two, imo.
I like challenges where Evan is away from Kenny-Johnny.
[QUOTE=LCbaby;79350]As much as I love and obsessed with Lando, I would have to agree. There is only a few people I rank at Lando level and above. CT and Alton are two of them, and I think Evan is getting there.
I am sure this challenge did the opposite for most people, but it made me become an Evan fan and hate the arguably "respected". So as much as I love Lando, if I wanted anyone else to win the final, it would be Evan =) He earned it more than the other two, imo.
I like challenges where Evan is away from Kenny-Johnny.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I agree Evan, Alton and CT are all at Lando's level. If CT was still there, I think Evan would have put up more of a fight this time around.
I didn't really like Evan on G3, but he became one of my favorites right away when this challenge started.
I wanted Evan to win also, because I feel he earned it by going in the duel and winning.
I think it's going to be really hard for me to watch the Lando-Brad duel :(.
Alton is probably the best male for eliminations. So I don't really see Evan taking him.
As for Lando, since Brad beat him, I think Evan has a good chance beating Lando. He even completed his spot on puzzle faster than Lando did.
[quote=dplayer18;79363]Alton is probably the best male for eliminations. So I don't really see Evan taking him.
As for Lando, since Brad beat him, I think Evan has a good chance beating Lando. He even completed his spot on puzzle faster than Lando did.[/quote]
I still believe Brad can't beat a healthy Lando, but the argument for that isn't now, its too draining lol.
I think Alton and CT are best for male eliminations. Evan and Landon come close behind.
The whole "Evan completed the Spot on puzzle faster" argument makes me laugh because it was Evans second time playing that game. How can you compare Landon's first duel at the game to Evan's second? For arguments sake, Landon beat Evan's first attempt at Spot on versus Davis, so obviously Landon's second attempt at the game would be better than his first. Logical, no?
I believe the top dogs in challenge history include: CT, Alton, Landon, The Miz, Abe, Evan. All of them are also my favorites.
[QUOTE=LCbaby;79368]
The whole "Evan completed the Spot on puzzle faster" argument makes me laugh because it was Evans second time playing that game. How can you compare Landon's first duel at the game to Evan's second? For arguments sake, Landon beat Evan's first attempt at Spot on versus Davis, so obviously Landon's second attempt at the game would be better than his first. Logical, no?
I believe the top dogs in challenge history include: CT, Alton, Landon, The Miz, Abe, Evan. All of them are also my favorites.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it does sound logical. Evan had more experience thats why he was faster this time around. I'd like to see them do "back off" or "push over".
[quote=LCbaby;79368]
I believe the top dogs in challenge history include: CT, Alton, Landon, The Miz, Abe, Evan. All of them are also my favorites.[/quote]
[B]Agreed, but not so much on the favorites. lol.
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[quote=LCbaby;79368]I still believe Brad can't beat a healthy Lando, but the argument for that isn't now, its too draining lol.
I think Alton and CT are best for male eliminations. Evan and Landon come close behind.
The whole "Evan completed the Spot on puzzle faster" argument makes me laugh because it was Evans second time playing that game. How can you compare Landon's first duel at the game to Evan's second? For arguments sake, Landon beat Evan's first attempt at Spot on versus Davis, so obviously Landon's second attempt at the game would be better than his first. Logical, no?
I believe the top dogs in challenge history include: CT, Alton, Landon, The Miz, Abe, Evan. All of them are also my favorites.[/quote]
Historically, the toughest outs have been Alton, CT, the Miz, and Aneesa. Abram is great competitor, but with a loss to the Miz and a DQ victory over the wiley Timmy, I can't see him taking out a CT, Landon, or Alton, or Wes.
Evan has a good face off record, but it would have been nice to see him in something other than Spot On and Elevator. I really wish he could have done the Back Off duel. As for him beating Landon, the missions are a small indication that Landon at 100 % would smoke him in either of the 5 duels imo.
Landon's loss to Brad is something I'll never be sold on until it airs. From the previews I have seen, Landon was clearly working Brad, but an aggrevated injury during the duel could quickly change the outcome or performance. Who knows, perhaps Landon can't go on in the duel and DQs. Brad record in faceoffs are not that great. esp in the more physical ones.
[quote=dplayer18;79373]Yeah it does sound logical. Evan had more experience thats why he was faster this time around. I'd like to see them do "back off" or "push over".[/quote]
Yeah. I wish we could see an Evan-CT faceoff, round two. I hope we get to see more of CT competing because he truly is such a beast. That duel he had with Brad on Duel I where Brad was like a rag doll, but he ripped the flag.
It's true the only one who totally beats CT is himself.
[quote=Darock1713;79375]Historically, the toughest outs have been Alton, CT, the Miz, and Aneesa. Abram is great competitor, but with a loss to the Miz and a DQ victory over the wiley Timmy, I can't see him taking out a CT, Landon, or Alton, or Wes. [/quote]
Indeed, I agree. While I do not consider Aneesa one of the female greats, she does win her duels. I think one of the best girl competitors is Jodi, although she had some "Evan tendencies" and her nerves totally screwed her over multiple times. Girl's a beast though. Svet beat Aneesa on Duel I, but the "I can" duel is a joke.
[quote=Darock1713;79375] Evan has a good face off record, but it would have been nice to see him in something other than Spot On and Elevator. I really wish he could have done the Back Off duel. As for him beating Landon, the missions are a small indication that Landon at 100 % would smoke him in either of the 5 duels imo.
Landon's loss to Brad is something I'll never be sold on until it airs. From the previews I have seen, Landon was clearly working Brad, but an aggravated injury during the duel could quickly change the outcome or performance. Who knows, perhaps Landon can't go on in the duel and DQs. Brad record in faceoffs are not that great. esp in the more physical ones.[/quote]
I also agree. Even if it airs and I see Brad flat out beat Landon, I still won't agree with it. The fact that he needs surgery after this show proves to me he was hurting during or after, and his winning streak all throughout the season also validates that Landon was still kicking butt with an underlying injury. As VMan suggests, I guess we just have to wait until it airs but my affections and opinions of the duel or either competitor won't change.
Brad, to me, is the ultimate lucky man. The fact that Mark has never seen an elimination round is startling and angering to me, and the fact that Evan wins makes the show bittersweet. Evan earned it.
[quote=dplayer18;79381]I doubt he would be back. But then again Abe was brought back after 2 fights. It would be nice if CT was back to just compete and put all drama aside.[/quote]
I really wish that would happen. While I doubt it will, CT would bring back some man power and spice the challenges as of late are lacking (imo).
[quote=dplayer18;79387]The competition would have been very different if he didn't get into that fight. The whole game would have changed and alliances would be broken.[/quote]
Indeed! It really sucks because CT keeps eliminating himself. Has anyone read that he will no longer be asked to participate in the shows? Might as well crush my hopes while I can.
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