I didn't say that people said that she was elite, I just said that people overrate her abilities (mostly because she overrates them herself). She and other people on here brag about how good she is at puzzles, but she hasn't really shown that she is so great at them. Also, on last week's mission she showed that she wasn't that great on endurance.
They would have came in second if they had the right piece so her endurance isn't that bad.
That's true, but I feel like if it wasn't for Jordan pushing her she would have probably taken a lot more time. To be honest, what's more surprising is that Leroy and Nia came in third. I thought they were going to be one of the last teams, but they really surprised me.
If Jordan lets her go at a slower pace and they don't lose a piece they probably win but Jordan's ego ruined that because he wanted to be up the mountain first when that was irrelevant
Nia/Leroy doing well was surprising but good to see
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
We honestly don't know because Sarah has never been in a physical elimination besides the one against Katie in the Ruins. Camila is strong and she has beaten bigger people in physical eliminations (Robin). I think Sarah would only have her in Pole Me Over and Back Off Of Me. Camila would beat Sarah in Die Hard and Handcuffs
We honestly don't know because Sarah has never been in a physical elimination besides the one against Katie in the Ruins. Camila is strong and she has beaten bigger people in physical eliminations (Robin). I think Sarah would only have her in Pole Me Over and Back Off Of Me. Camila would beat Sarah in Die Hard and Handcuffs
Robin is no where near the shape Sarah is in. Plus Robin has only beaten Casey in a elimination so that's a horrible example.
We honestly don't know because Sarah has never been in a physical elimination besides the one against Katie in the Ruins. Camila is strong and she has beaten bigger people in physical eliminations (Robin). I think Sarah would only have her in Pole Me Over and Back Off Of Me. Camila would beat Sarah in Die Hard and Handcuffs
Robin is no where near the shape Sarah is in. Plus Robin has only beaten Casey in a elimination so that's a horrible example.
The point I was making was that we've seen people who are smaller in size beat people that were bigger than them. If you want me to provide a better example, then let's bring Derrick up. He's beaten Syrus, Ace, Adam L., etc.
We honestly don't know because Sarah has never been in a physical elimination besides the one against Katie in the Ruins. Camila is strong and she has beaten bigger people in physical eliminations (Robin). I think Sarah would only have her in Pole Me Over and Back Off Of Me. Camila would beat Sarah in Die Hard and Handcuffs
Robin is no where near the shape Sarah is in. Plus Robin has only beaten Casey in a elimination so that's a horrible example.
The point I was making was that we've seen people who are smaller in size beat people that were bigger than them. If you want me to provide a better example, then let's bring Derrick up. He's beaten Syrus, Ace, Adam L., etc.
Derrick knows how to wrestle which is why he beat Ace & Syrus....even beating Adam was about wrestling and knowing simple trivia which Adam was clueless on.
You're right that size doesn't always matter but in things like Pole Me Over (see your own example of Derrick) size does matter. Derrick would beat Tyler in Handcuffs or Beach Brawl but not Pole Me Over. Sarah would have beat Camila in that IMO. Die Hard & Handcuffs is questionable.
But, yeah, Robin's a bad example of pretty much anything--haha
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
sarah isnt in that great of shape and robin isnt weak. robin has physically beaten girls like svetlana, kina and has gotten aggressive with beth all on the same day. lets not act like robin is a push over becaues she loses i elmination rounds...she more than proves herself in the missions. i think robin vs sarah in something physical would also be interesting.
honestly i see camila taking out sarah in any kind of "wrestle object out of hands" thing. even something purely weight based like pole me over or back up off me would end up in sarah having to get stitches. sarah is a great competitor but i think camila is too much for her to handle. look at the sarah vs katie ruins and how it ended up with a tie breaker then look at camila vs katie and how one sided that was.
on the blcok party mission sarah struggled a lot with veronica while camila always seems to get the best of everyone that she gets into physical contact with.
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
There's no evidence to support that. Let's stop pretending Camila has elite wins...she beat Emilee (who's awful) and Katie (decent and that Sarah has also beat)...that's it head to head. I respect Camila (see the elimination with Fat Eric) but Sarah and Camila are comparable.
All these partners eliminations have really hurt evaluating competitors IMO
sarah isnt in that great of shape and robin isnt weak. robin has physically beaten girls like svetlana, kina and has gotten aggressive with beth all on the same day. i think robin vs sarah in something physical would also be interesting.
honestly i see camila taking out sarah in any kind of "wrestle object out of hands" thing. even something purely weight based like pole me over or back up off me would end up in sarah having to get stitches. sarah is a great competitor but i think camila is too much for her to handle. look at the sarah vs katie ruins and how it ended up with a tie breaker then look at camila vs katie and how one sided that was.
on the blcok party mission sarah struggled a lot with veronica while camila always seems to get the best of everyone that she gets into physical contact with.
Danny also beat Darrell in a round of Oh Ring--really not the best example
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
There's no evidence to support that. Let's stop pretending Camila has elite wins...she beat Emilee (who's awful) and Katie (decent and that Sarah has also beat)...that's it head to head. I respect Camila (see the elimination with Fat Eric) but Sarah and Camila are comparable.
All these partners eliminations have really hurt evaluating competitors IMO
Who is pretending, besides you? Acting like Sarah is some beast in physical eliminations. She has never given any indication of this in missions or eliminations. While I do think Sarah is a decent player in the game, but no where near the legend your trying to make her out to be.
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
There's no evidence to support that. Let's stop pretending Camila has elite wins...she beat Emilee (who's awful) and Katie (decent and that Sarah has also beat)...that's it head to head. I respect Camila (see the elimination with Fat Eric) but Sarah and Camila are comparable.
All these partners eliminations have really hurt evaluating competitors IMO
I don't think it is who she beat but HOW she beat them. Emilee is bigger than Camila yet Camila beat her decisively and apparently was very physical in doing so (kicking, choking, scratching) and also beat Katie decisively when those two have similar builds/sizes. Katie even herself said she was shocked how strong Camila was and thought it'd be a bit more competitive. There is also how she was able to beat Marie in a pretty tough battle. I can't remember really seeing Sarah get physical and/or get really vicious. Imo Camila > Sarah but it is definitely close.
darrell didnt find that an easy win by any means. look at how much he was sweating and how hard he was breathing after the elimination round. danny is slow and nowhere near as complete as darrell as a competitor but physical strength is kind of his thing
Camila has only lost to Laurel and both times she almost beat her..
and yes I know she lost to Theresa on FA so people count that but I think if Camila was in the right state of mind she would have outlasted Theresa and not given up. JMO. Camila is a fighter and has a lot of heart and I didn't see that side of her in the Theresa elimination.
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
There's no evidence to support that. Let's stop pretending Camila has elite wins...she beat Emilee (who's awful) and Katie (decent and that Sarah has also beat)...that's it head to head. I respect Camila (see the elimination with Fat Eric) but Sarah and Camila are comparable.
All these partners eliminations have really hurt evaluating competitors IMO
Who is pretending, besides you? Acting like Sarah is some beast in physical eliminations. She has never given any indication of this in missions or eliminations. While I do think Sarah is a decent player in the game, but no where near the legend your trying to make her out to be.
Learn how the **** to read. I'm done being nice to stupid people. I've said repeatedly Sarah isn't elite but you're too ******* stupid to comprehend that. Legend--go **** yourself.
Camila's never proven it either--they're comparable. If I thought Sarah was a "legend" I'd have said she'd definitely win at least half--I didn't but you're too stupid to comprehend simple things. Bring your "A" game or shut the **** up
Camila has only lost to Laurel and both times she almost beat her..
and yes I know she lost to Theresa on FA so people count that but I think if Camila was in the right state of mind she would have outlasted Theresa and not given up. JMO. Camila is a fighter and has a lot of heart and I didn't see that side of her in the Theresa elimination.
Camila is way better than Sarah.
Idk if she would have won, but definitely would have been more competitive. Camila usually is able to flip a switch and just give it her all and she just seemed broken by that point.
Camila has only lost to Laurel and both times she almost beat her..
and yes I know she lost to Theresa on FA so people count that but I think if Camila was in the right state of mind she would have outlasted Theresa and not given up. JMO. Camila is a fighter and has a lot of heart and I didn't see that side of her in the Theresa elimination.
Camila is way better than Sarah.
Way better doesn't even make sense--if you want to say better that's fine. I agree that was out of character for Camila to quit but Theresa was going to beat her...she knew it. I'd love Sarah or Camila as my partner. Camila's a bit of a problem with the political game though. I've never seen either completely dominate the other. They're comparable.
I think a lot of people could beat come close to beating Laurel in Die Hard--probably the only elimination that we've seen recently that Laurel would struggle with because of her size but how are you using Theresa/Camila vs. Laurel/Cara Maria--Cara's the reason that was close
i dont know if camila could beat theresa in something physical but i would like to see that match up as well.
theresa has gotten in her fair share of physical, strength related squabbles as well despite her seemingly meek personality nowadays and propensity for crying
FM2:
-Ryan/Theresa stalemated Jill/Pete and basically opened the door for Carley/Landon to do their part. I REFUSE to believe that Ryan was responsible for any of their progress considering that he got slaughtered and things went back to normalcy(Pete>Ryan) as soon as the women were taken out of the equation.
-pretty much physically threw Jenn into the dirt on the obstacle course.
Cutthroat:
-man handled the **** out of Tina from what i heard. in fact it got so one sided that Tina was desperately trying to throw herself out of bounds on purpose . i dont consider tina a weak girl.
between the 3(theresa, camila, sarah) i would say that we've seen the fewest bulldoze moments from sarah.
i also want to add that in riot shield that jenn got sarah off of the mound
i dont consider sarah inferior to the ther two in terms of overall competitive ability but she really doesnt have many s****py moments to her name.
Camila has only lost to Laurel and both times she almost beat her..
and yes I know she lost to Theresa on FA so people count that but I think if Camila was in the right state of mind she would have outlasted Theresa and not given up. JMO. Camila is a fighter and has a lot of heart and I didn't see that side of her in the Theresa elimination.
Camila is way better than Sarah.
Way better doesn't even make sense--if you want to say better that's fine. I agree that was out of character for Camila to quit but Theresa was going to beat her...she knew it. I'd love Sarah or Camila as my partner. Camila's a bit of a problem with the political game though. I've never seen either completely dominate the other. They're comparable.
I think a lot of people could beat come close to beating Laurel in Die Hard--probably the only elimination that we've seen recently that Laurel would struggle with because of her size but how are you using Theresa/Camila vs. Laurel/Cara Maria--Cara's the reason that was close
laurel should have an advantage in die hard. she has way more weight to utilize in turning the dice.
Camila has only lost to Laurel and both times she almost beat her..
and yes I know she lost to Theresa on FA so people count that but I think if Camila was in the right state of mind she would have outlasted Theresa and not given up. JMO. Camila is a fighter and has a lot of heart and I didn't see that side of her in the Theresa elimination.
Camila is way better than Sarah.
Way better doesn't even make sense--if you want to say better that's fine. I agree that was out of character for Camila to quit but Theresa was going to beat her...she knew it. I'd love Sarah or Camila as my partner. Camila's a bit of a problem with the political game though. I've never seen either completely dominate the other. They're comparable.
I think a lot of people could beat come close to beating Laurel in Die Hard--probably the only elimination that we've seen recently that Laurel would struggle with because of her size but how are you using Theresa/Camila vs. Laurel/Cara Maria--Cara's the reason that was close
laurel should have an advantage in die hard. she has way more weight to utilize in turning the dice.
It is about balance more than weight IMO...which tells you how bad Vinny really was
Camila has only lost to Laurel and both times she almost beat her..
and yes I know she lost to Theresa on FA so people count that but I think if Camila was in the right state of mind she would have outlasted Theresa and not given up. JMO. Camila is a fighter and has a lot of heart and I didn't see that side of her in the Theresa elimination.
Camila is way better than Sarah.
Way better doesn't even make sense--if you want to say better that's fine. I agree that was out of character for Camila to quit but Theresa was going to beat her...she knew it. I'd love Sarah or Camila as my partner. Camila's a bit of a problem with the political game though. I've never seen either completely dominate the other. They're comparable.
I think a lot of people could beat come close to beating Laurel in Die Hard--probably the only elimination that we've seen recently that Laurel would struggle with because of her size but how are you using Theresa/Camila vs. Laurel/Cara Maria--Cara's the reason that was close
Exactly, it pays to be smaller in die hard. So that's why it was close.
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
There's no evidence to support that. Let's stop pretending Camila has elite wins...she beat Emilee (who's awful) and Katie (decent and that Sarah has also beat)...that's it head to head. I respect Camila (see the elimination with Fat Eric) but Sarah and Camila are comparable.
All these partners eliminations have really hurt evaluating competitors IMO
I don't think it is who she beat but HOW she beat them. Emilee is bigger than Camila yet Camila beat her decisively and apparently was very physical in doing so (kicking, choking, scratching) and also beat Katie decisively when those two have similar builds/sizes. Katie even herself said she was shocked how strong Camila was and thought it'd be a bit more competitive. There is also how she was able to beat Marie in a pretty tough battle. I can't remember really seeing Sarah get physical and/or get really vicious. Imo Camila > Sarah but it is definitely close.
Again oil change is irrelevant , you can't get any footing which is key in wrestling.
yeah i dont think it pays to be smaller in die hard. that dice is extremely heavy. you need strength to shift that thing over and the best supply of that is going to be extracted from your weight. ill admit that balance is a part of the equation but i still say weight >>
look at the way marie and camila were basically beating the shit out of each other. they went at it for a long time in there, just clawing at each other. no way can you say that being physical or having weight played no part. regardless its a testament to how tenacious and ferocious camila can be
forgot to add that sarah does have that 10lb fish thing to her name. thats kind of her only feat though...beating laura with a piece of tuna...
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
There's no evidence to support that. Let's stop pretending Camila has elite wins...she beat Emilee (who's awful) and Katie (decent and that Sarah has also beat)...that's it head to head. I respect Camila (see the elimination with Fat Eric) but Sarah and Camila are comparable.
All these partners eliminations have really hurt evaluating competitors IMO
I don't think it is who she beat but HOW she beat them. Emilee is bigger than Camila yet Camila beat her decisively and apparently was very physical in doing so (kicking, choking, scratching) and also beat Katie decisively when those two have similar builds/sizes. Katie even herself said she was shocked how strong Camila was and thought it'd be a bit more competitive. There is also how she was able to beat Marie in a pretty tough battle. I can't remember really seeing Sarah get physical and/or get really vicious. Imo Camila > Sarah but it is definitely close.
Again oil change is irrelevant , you can't get any footing which is key in wrestling.
But she was still able to even wrestle with Marie who's bigger than her for a consistent amount of time, even winning. That in itself and the other two examples show why Camila has a good track record with physical stuff.
Oil change is a horrible way to judge anyone's skill because it's impossible to get any footing because of the oily floor
If Jordan lets her go at a slower pace and they don't lose a piece they probably win but Jordan's ego ruined that because he wanted to be up the mountain first when that was irrelevant
Nia/Leroy doing well was surprising but good to see
Well besides that, I still think Camila would outperform Sarah in anything.
Sarah would probably have won in any gulag but swat and doe hard. She'd crush Camila in pole me over or back up off me
Camila>Sarah
I second that.
Sarah vs. Camila would be very interesting one on one. I think if they faced off 10 times neither would win more than 6...either 6-4 or 5-5. They're pretty even
We honestly don't know because Sarah has never been in a physical elimination besides the one against Katie in the Ruins. Camila is strong and she has beaten bigger people in physical eliminations (Robin). I think Sarah would only have her in Pole Me Over and Back Off Of Me. Camila would beat Sarah in Die Hard and Handcuffs
Robin is no where near the shape Sarah is in. Plus Robin has only beaten Casey in a elimination so that's a horrible example.
The point I was making was that we've seen people who are smaller in size beat people that were bigger than them. If you want me to provide a better example, then let's bring Derrick up. He's beaten Syrus, Ace, Adam L., etc.
Derrick knows how to wrestle which is why he beat Ace & Syrus....even beating Adam was about wrestling and knowing simple trivia which Adam was clueless on.
You're right that size doesn't always matter but in things like Pole Me Over (see your own example of Derrick) size does matter. Derrick would beat Tyler in Handcuffs or Beach Brawl but not Pole Me Over. Sarah would have beat Camila in that IMO. Die Hard & Handcuffs is questionable.
But, yeah, Robin's a bad example of pretty much anything--haha
Sarah is okay in eliminations, but definitely not as good as your implying. She would not beat Camila in anything physical.
sarah isnt in that great of shape and robin isnt weak. robin has physically beaten girls like svetlana, kina and has gotten aggressive with beth all on the same day. lets not act like robin is a push over becaues she loses i elmination rounds...she more than proves herself in the missions. i think robin vs sarah in something physical would also be interesting.
honestly i see camila taking out sarah in any kind of "wrestle object out of hands" thing. even something purely weight based like pole me over or back up off me would end up in sarah having to get stitches. sarah is a great competitor but i think camila is too much for her to handle. look at the sarah vs katie ruins and how it ended up with a tie breaker then look at camila vs katie and how one sided that was.
on the blcok party mission sarah struggled a lot with veronica while camila always seems to get the best of everyone that she gets into physical contact with.
There's no evidence to support that. Let's stop pretending Camila has elite wins...she beat Emilee (who's awful) and Katie (decent and that Sarah has also beat)...that's it head to head. I respect Camila (see the elimination with Fat Eric) but Sarah and Camila are comparable.
All these partners eliminations have really hurt evaluating competitors IMO
Danny also beat Darrell in a round of Oh Ring--really not the best example
Who is pretending, besides you? Acting like Sarah is some beast in physical eliminations. She has never given any indication of this in missions or eliminations. While I do think Sarah is a decent player in the game, but no where near the legend your trying to make her out to be.
I don't think it is who she beat but HOW she beat them. Emilee is bigger than Camila yet Camila beat her decisively and apparently was very physical in doing so (kicking, choking, scratching) and also beat Katie decisively when those two have similar builds/sizes. Katie even herself said she was shocked how strong Camila was and thought it'd be a bit more competitive. There is also how she was able to beat Marie in a pretty tough battle. I can't remember really seeing Sarah get physical and/or get really vicious. Imo Camila > Sarah but it is definitely close.
darrell didnt find that an easy win by any means. look at how much he was sweating and how hard he was breathing after the elimination round. danny is slow and nowhere near as complete as darrell as a competitor but physical strength is kind of his thing
Camila has only lost to Laurel and both times she almost beat her..
and yes I know she lost to Theresa on FA so people count that but I think if Camila was in the right state of mind she would have outlasted Theresa and not given up. JMO. Camila is a fighter and has a lot of heart and I didn't see that side of her in the Theresa elimination.
Camila is way better than Sarah.
Learn how the **** to read. I'm done being nice to stupid people. I've said repeatedly Sarah isn't elite but you're too ******* stupid to comprehend that. Legend--go **** yourself.
Camila's never proven it either--they're comparable. If I thought Sarah was a "legend" I'd have said she'd definitely win at least half--I didn't but you're too stupid to comprehend simple things. Bring your "A" game or shut the **** up
Idk if she would have won, but definitely would have been more competitive. Camila usually is able to flip a switch and just give it her all and she just seemed broken by that point.
Way better doesn't even make sense--if you want to say better that's fine. I agree that was out of character for Camila to quit but Theresa was going to beat her...she knew it. I'd love Sarah or Camila as my partner. Camila's a bit of a problem with the political game though. I've never seen either completely dominate the other. They're comparable.
I think a lot of people could beat come close to beating Laurel in Die Hard--probably the only elimination that we've seen recently that Laurel would struggle with because of her size but how are you using Theresa/Camila vs. Laurel/Cara Maria--Cara's the reason that was close
i dont know if camila could beat theresa in something physical but i would like to see that match up as well.
theresa has gotten in her fair share of physical, strength related squabbles as well despite her seemingly meek personality nowadays and propensity for crying
FM2:
-Ryan/Theresa stalemated Jill/Pete and basically opened the door for Carley/Landon to do their part. I REFUSE to believe that Ryan was responsible for any of their progress considering that he got slaughtered and things went back to normalcy(Pete>Ryan) as soon as the women were taken out of the equation.
-pretty much physically threw Jenn into the dirt on the obstacle course.
Cutthroat:
-man handled the **** out of Tina from what i heard. in fact it got so one sided that Tina was desperately trying to throw herself out of bounds on purpose . i dont consider tina a weak girl.
between the 3(theresa, camila, sarah) i would say that we've seen the fewest bulldoze moments from sarah.
i also want to add that in riot shield that jenn got sarah off of the mound
i dont consider sarah inferior to the ther two in terms of overall competitive ability but she really doesnt have many s****py moments to her name.
laurel should have an advantage in die hard. she has way more weight to utilize in turning the dice.
It is about balance more than weight IMO...which tells you how bad Vinny really was
Exactly, it pays to be smaller in die hard. So that's why it was close.
Again oil change is irrelevant , you can't get any footing which is key in wrestling.
yeah i dont think it pays to be smaller in die hard. that dice is extremely heavy. you need strength to shift that thing over and the best supply of that is going to be extracted from your weight. ill admit that balance is a part of the equation but i still say weight >>
look at the way marie and camila were basically beating the shit out of each other. they went at it for a long time in there, just clawing at each other. no way can you say that being physical or having weight played no part. regardless its a testament to how tenacious and ferocious camila can be
forgot to add that sarah does have that 10lb fish thing to her name. thats kind of her only feat though...beating laura with a piece of tuna...
But she was still able to even wrestle with Marie who's bigger than her for a consistent amount of time, even winning. That in itself and the other two examples show why Camila has a good track record with physical stuff.
Camilla sucks. Sarah beats her in all aspects of the challenge. Theresa blows too.
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