[QUOTE=Entropy;143053]Kenny has been on all the challenges except the Duel 2 (cause Island champs weren't invited) since FM right? ***** Jersey must be boring.[/QUOTE]
Yes he has and and hopefully Kenny/Johnny/Evan/Paula/Diem/Ryan/Casey/Eric/Evelynn/Jenn take time off(never come back) I only want to see Sydney/Hollywood/Brooklyn/FM2/Cancun/DC/24 take the challange control
I remember reading in an interview with Road Rules Kefla that he was called about participating int the first Gauntlet season. He accepted too, but I guess he didn't make the final cut.
The Challenge has lost its spark completely. It's now the same ole camera *****s coming back every season to win money they dont even deserve anymore. Winning it has lost it's glory because it's the same winners every year. Every time they come up with teams, it's heavily unbalanced... it's not special anymore. I remember the challenges being so fun to watch because you got to see castmembers from different seasons come together and compete with each other... It was once a year too, typically in between seasons of Real World and Road Rules, so it was kind of a special event too, it was cool. You dont get that kind of entertainment any more because its the same people coming back over and over again, literally. Please get rid of Kenny and Evan. Johnny I dont mind because he was actually on a show.
I was watching the Island earlier and when Dave got drunk and threatened to quit, Kenny said "Where do they get these new guys from?" and then Rachel, gotta love her for this, says, "Where did you come from Kenny, you ******ing dont even have an original show". I love her.
so u dont want Pre-Hollywood Rwers? or Road Rulers? I don't mind the Fresh Meat that much because I haven't seen a RW since Austin so they are all Fresh Meat to me, I'd just like to see some difference between them. Like pit Kenny vs Evan or something like that. But since Gaunlet 3, its been.. Evan, Kenny, Johnny, Derrick, Paula, Wes, Johanna and Evenlyn in some way shape or form. People talk about Miz and Coral back in the day..but Miz was only on 5 challenges.. Kenny's going on hiz 6th with the Ruins, he's been on all final challenges except the Duel. I dont even mind him that much..I just wish a challenge like BoTS2 came along, where guys like Miz got eliminated early and mind you Im a huge Miz fan, but back then that was a hell of a shock to see. Had the infamous Kenny/Nehemiah duel had happened in between say.. Inferno 3 and the Island or Island and the Ruins, people would've been like holy *** Kenny got eliminated!
[QUOTE=Entropy;143058]so u dont want Pre-Hollywood Rwers? or Road Rulers? I don't mind the Fresh Meat that much because I haven't seen a RW since Austin so they are all Fresh Meat to me, I'd just like to see some difference between them. Like pit Kenny vs Evan or something like that. But since Gaunlet 3, its been.. Evan, Kenny, Johnny, Derrick, Paula, Wes, Johanna and Evenlyn in some way shape or form. People talk about Miz and Coral back in the day..but Miz was only on 5 challenges.. Kenny's going on hiz 6th with the Ruins, he's been on all final challenges except the Duel. I dont even mind him that much..I just wish a challenge like BoTS2 came along, where guys like Miz got eliminated early and mind you Im a huge Miz fan, but back then that was a hell of a shock to see. [B]Had the infamous Kenny/Nehemiah duel had happened in between say.. Inferno 3 and the Island or Island and the Ruins, people would've been like holy *** Kenny got eliminated![/B][/QUOTE]
Not really, since he has never really proven that he is a great competitor. That was the only real duel/elimination he was in and he lost. Unlike Evan, we cannot really say if Kenny would survive that many one-on-one duels. I believe even Johnny could beat him since he has more experience with these situations.
[QUOTE=Entropy;143058]so u dont want Pre-Hollywood Rwers? or Road Rulers? I don't mind the Fresh Meat that much because I haven't seen a RW since Austin so they are all Fresh Meat to me, I'd just like to see some difference between them. Like pit Kenny vs Evan or something like that. But since Gaunlet 3, its been.. Evan, Kenny, Johnny, Derrick, Paula, Wes, Johanna and Evenlyn in some way shape or form. People talk about Miz and Coral back in the day..but Miz was only on 5 challenges.. Kenny's going on hiz 6th with the Ruins, he's been on all final challenges except the Duel. I dont even mind him that much..I just wish a challenge like BoTS2 came along, where guys like Miz got eliminated early and mind you Im a huge Miz fan, but back then that was a hell of a shock to see. Had the infamous Kenny/Nehemiah duel had happened in between say.. Inferno 3 and the Island or Island and the Ruins, people would've been like holy *** Kenny got eliminated![/QUOTE]
I think it's unlikely that pre-Sydney castmembers and Road Rulers would run the show since they would hardly come. I think the whole power would shift from KW/FM to the newer seasons now.
I would like if the alumni and FM get into a big argument soon over who had an original show and who didn't, it would be fun to watch.
[URL="http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html"][url]http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html[/url][/URL] Everyone should go here and request older seasons the Challenges and RWRR.
Npresh, when did you start watching the Real World because if you think all the quality castmembers come from Hollywood and after you are missing out. The quality ended for me after San Diego.
The Real World slowly started to descend with Hawaii and the went off the deep end with Vegas.
My favorite Real Worlds are New York #1, San Franisco & London.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;143085][URL="http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html"][url]http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html[/url][/URL] Everyone should go here and request older seasons the Challenges and RWRR.
Npresh, when did you start watching the Real World because if you think all the quality castmembers come from Hollywood and after you are missing out. The quality ended for me after San Diego.[/QUOTE]
New Orleans,I dont think there quality castmembers just every season prior to Sydney seem to get there chance at challanges and I would love to see the newer one get theres especially since alo of people are about to move one with there lives.
Desert, I agree the orginial New York was the greatest season. I wasn't a huge Hawaii fan but I thought New Orleans-Chicago were great seasons. Las Vegas was just alot different then what the Real World had been. Paris was kinda boring but had a good cast. San Diego is one of my favorite seasons. Since then I still like the show but it's no where near what is used to be.
I disagree that alot of the older castmembers have moved on with their lives. Yeah, I'm sure they've matured and moved on from the Real World life style and alot of the older cast don't just chill with the new kids in LA but just like you have 30 & 40 year olds during Survivor some of the older castmembers would like to compete I gauarntee it. Once again I'm not saying it should be 24 older castmembers a) that probably isn't possible b) it might be boring since they have matured. However, I do think it should be more diverse season wise. Even if you bring back people like Lindsay (RW7) & Holly (RR7) they might not start drama but they would be WAY better background characters than Paula & Ryan. I think the Ruins started out as one of the best challenges post fresh meat (till it became all about JEK) and why? It had a variety of different castmembers, season wise.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;143099]Desert, I agree the orginial New York was the greatest season. I wasn't a huge Hawaii fan but I thought New Orleans-Chicago were great seasons. Las Vegas was just alot different then what the Real World had been. Paris was kinda boring but had a good cast. San Diego is one of my favorite seasons. Since then I still like the show but it's no where near what is used to be.
I disagree that alot of the older castmembers have moved on with their lives. Yeah, I'm sure they've matured and moved on from the Real World life style and alot of the older cast don't just chill with the new kids in LA but [B]just like you have 30 & 40 year olds during Survivor some of the older castmembers would like to compete I gauarntee it.[/B] Once again I'm not saying it should be 24 older castmembers a) that probably isn't possible b) it might be boring since they have matured. However, I do think it should be more diverse season wise. Even if you bring back people like Lindsay (RW7) & Holly (RR7) they might not start drama but they would be WAY better background characters than Paula & Ryan. I think the Ruins started out as one of the best challenges post fresh meat (till it became all about JEK) and why? It had a variety of different castmembers, season wise.[/QUOTE]
Uh...the premise of Survivor is completely different than the challenges.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;143099]Desert, I agree the orginial New York was the greatest season. I wasn't a huge Hawaii fan but I thought New Orleans-Chicago were great seasons. Las Vegas was just alot different then what the Real World had been. Paris was kinda boring but had a good cast. San Diego is one of my favorite seasons. Since then I still like the show but it's no where near what is used to be.
I disagree that alot of the older castmembers have moved on with their lives. Yeah, I'm sure they've matured and moved on from the Real World life style and alot of the older cast don't just chill with the new kids in LA but just like you have 30 & 40 year olds during Survivor some of the older castmembers would like to compete I gauarntee it. Once again I'm not saying it should be 24 older castmembers a) that probably isn't possible b) it might be boring since they have matured. However, I do think it should be more diverse season wise. Even if you bring back people like Lindsay (RW7) & Holly (RR7) they might not start drama but they would be WAY better background characters than Paula & Ryan. I think the Ruins started out as one of the best challenges post fresh meat (till it became all about JEK) and why? It had a variety of different castmembers, season wise.[/QUOTE]
You can't compare Survivor to the RW/RR Challenges. People doing survivor in their 30's & 40's APPLIED at that age. Most people were on the RW/RR in their early 20's, late teens & they just aren't the same person anymore. Many have jobs, and probably consider doing a RW/RR Challenge embarrassing, especially considering the fact that the shows aren't to even be taken serious anymore.
Bring back both Hollys (Maximum Velocity, South America), Kendal, Ellen, Coral, Rachel (Campus Crawl), Raquel, and Ayanna. For the men, bring back Theo von, Norman, Mark, Alton, Yes, Dan (Northern Trail), Colin (Hawaii) and Puck!
Let the new host be Timmy!!!
JEK vs Puck in a verbal showdown is the drama I want to see!
Why does everyone want *insert name here* to come back to "go against" JEK. I'd rather just not have them on challenges, than to have them to "argue" with oldies who probably doesn't care 1/2 as much as we do.
[QUOTE=dplayer18;143066]I think it's unlikely that pre-Sydney castmembers and Road Rulers would run the show since they would hardly come. I think the whole power would shift from KW/FM to the newer seasons now.
I would like if the alumni and FM get into a big argument soon over who had an original show and who didn't, it would be fun to watch.[/QUOTE]
Tell that to Mark Long, he ran the Duel 2, if Evan had kept nice with Paula after the Dunbar vote, Evan would've been thrown out of the alliance run by Mark and Rachel.
Entropy is inferring that Evan would have been booted from the Alliance by Mark & Brad though. It may very well have happened. Evan did say, if I recall, that he needed to be done with her to stay in the game. Perhaps this is what he was referring to.
[QUOTE=TheKorean;143101]You can't compare Survivor to the RW/RR Challenges. People doing survivor in their 30's & 40's APPLIED at that age. Most people were on the RW/RR in their early 20's, late teens & they just aren't the same person anymore. Many have jobs, and probably consider doing a RW/RR Challenge embarrassing, especially considering the fact that the shows aren't to even be taken serious anymore.[/QUOTE]
I'm not comparing them. I'm saying people in their 30's and 40's are willing to take a over month out of their lives away from their kids, spouces, and job with no contact and ****** living conditions because they love to compete. There are older castmembers that are the same way, they might have a job and maybe even a family but they like to compete so they'd be willing to do a challenge. Once again I'm not saying that I want a challenge consisting of 24, 30 and 40 year olds but it would be nice to see about 3 or 4 fresh new faces a challenge from older seasons and there are 3 or 4 that would be willing. Plus I'm not saying bring back Julie (RR1) or Effie (RR2) I'm thinking logical like Raquel (RR11) or Lindsay (RW7).
This is true Mark and Evan were the alliances. Brad was a far away third. Really what would Mark have done anyway it wasn't like he was going to volunteer to go into a duel with Evan so he could risk losing. (Though that would have been a great duel)
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;143115]Entropy is inferring that Evan would have been booted from the Alliance by Mark & Brad though. It may very well have happened. Evan did say, if I recall, that he needed to be done with her to stay in the game. Perhaps this is what he was referring to.[/QUOTE]
Regardless they would have found away to keep Evan. The alliance before they even got to NZ was Mark, Evan, and Brad. And it stayed that way, he would have never been booted unless he lost to somebody.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;143115]Entropy is inferring that Evan would have been booted from the Alliance by Mark & Brad though. It may very well have happened. Evan did say, if I recall, that he needed to be done with her to stay in the game. Perhaps this is what he was referring to.[/QUOTE]
correct and I can imagine if Evan kept with Paula they would've put Landon into the alliance officially. But the real point I was trying to make, is that old schoolers still can run challenge social games.
Mark is good friends with Evan and Brad, it wasn't so much about running things, they are good friends and they wanted to look out for each other. I'm sure a lot of old schoolers won't be "running" the game if they come back.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;143145]i think that would depend on the game.[/QUOTE]
Exactly but an alliance is an alliance, it doesn't have to do with old schoolers or new schoolers.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;143165]Baya was asked to be on The Ruins.[/QUOTE]
I love Baya, she is awesome in every way. However, I don't think these challenges are for her. I think she would concur.
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