[QUOTE=Rambo;134477]Evan would kill those guys. Lets be honest, back in the day, the challenges weren't really all that physically demanding or as athletically based as they are now. Alton, CT, Evan, Landon would feast on those old guys.[/QUOTE]
I think the Miz isn't as good as everyone says he is, but I don't think Evan would straight out kill him at everything. Abe, while not being as physically strong as Evan and Kenny, has proven himself on a team with Kenny. He even beat Kenny. I think something physical like pushing a giant rock, Evan would beat him, but Abe is as smart and perhaps smarter, sometimes, then Evan. It was evident he was the brains on I3 on his team, as well as I2, and clearly if he had stayed, would have won on the Island. Not taking anything away from Evan, but I don't think he'd kill Abe either.
[QUOTE=kellerz;134352]Johnny won a faceoff against Derrick and Cohutta on The Island.[/QUOTE]
He didn't win an elimination though. He's 0-2, meaning that he's been in 2, and lost them both. Losing to Tyler in the Duel, and losing to Evan in The Gauntlet 3.
The Island was just a vote off, so because he "won" a vote off doesn't mean he's won an actual elimination round.
[QUOTE=jbcizzle;134669]He didn't win an elimination though. He's 0-2, meaning that he's been in 2, and lost them both. Losing to Tyler in the Duel, and losing to Evan in The Gauntlet 3.
The Island was just a vote off, so because he "won" a vote off doesn't mean he's won an actual elimination round.[/QUOTE]
Johnny won 2 keys on The Island.. the first was winning a Vote Off.. the second one was winning a Face Off (against Derrick and Cohutta).. it wasnt an easy one, and he beat a someone with brawn (D) and someone with brains (C).. dont get my wrong, on the Island, Johnny was a 1st-class *******, but he did earned his second key.. and deserves to have that face-off win on this track record.
[QUOTE=Jedyknight28;134897]Johnny won 2 keys on The Island.. the first was winning a Vote Off.. the second one was winning a Face Off (against Derrick and Cohutta).. it wasnt an easy one, and he beat a someone with brawn (D) and someone with brains (C).. dont get my wrong, on the Island, Johnny was a 1st-class *******, but he did earned his second key.. and deserves to have that face-off win on this track record.[/QUOTE]
He did earn that second key and yes he did win that face-off but.... let's not forget that Derrick went into that face-off to actually help him win the key. Derrick didn't go into that second face-off trying to earn another key for himself. Had Derrick went into that second face-off having to earn a key for himself the story would've been different.
[QUOTE=faceless;134632]I think the Miz isn't as good as everyone says he is, but I don't think Evan would straight out kill him at everything.[/QUOTE]
I agree... I love the Miz, but let's face it. There have always been stronger guys than him on all of the challenges he's done.
BotSeasons- Sean was quite the beast
Gauntlet- Alton
Inferno- CT
BotSexes 2- He sucked
Inferno 2- Landon
... so I think if he came back now, he'd be similar to how he was on the second Battle of the Sexes.
As far as i'm concerned, Miz was all talk. A guy who actually thinks wedgies are cool doesn't deserve much praise, i feel Brad on that one; well not literally since i might have been bullied in my school days, but i fortunately dodged the wedgie bullet all that time.
[QUOTE=Jdaking;134967]did Alton Williams Officially Retire from RR/RW Challenges?[/QUOTE]
Unless he made an official statement about it, i don't think so. Either he's taking a long break or he's got better things going on in his personal life that aren't Challenges.
So far, everyone who "retired" announced it publicly, either on Reunions, After Shows, MTV blogs, or even after being eliminated from a Challenge.
One could make the same question about Ace since both him and Alton haven't appeared since I3, and the same could be said for him in that he's taking a break or is too busy at the moment. Especially since in recent times, the usual Paris competitors are Adam and/or CT, one might be concerned.
[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;134905]I agree... I love the Miz, but let's face it. There have always been stronger guys than him on all of the challenges he's done.
BotSeasons- Sean was quite the beast
Gauntlet- Alton
Inferno- CT
BotSexes 2- He sucked
Inferno 2- Landon
[/QUOTE]
Umm Miz was definitely better than Landon in the Inferno 2. He won SO many lifesavers in that challenge....
[QUOTE=jhl182;134972]Umm Miz was definitely better than Landon in the Inferno 2. He won SO many lifesavers in that challenge....[/QUOTE]
You're joking right? Landon and CT were the 2 strongest guys on I2. Miz has never been the strongest guy. Good, and one of the best, but not the best.
[QUOTE=faceless;134989]You're joking right? Landon and CT were the 2 strongest guys on I2. Miz has never been the strongest guy. Good, and one of the best, but not the best.[/QUOTE]
the miz won most of the missions on the inferno 2. didn't landon ruin one of the missions the good guys had in the bag by crashing the car into the margarita glasses?
[QUOTE=jhl182;134999]the miz won most of the missions on the inferno 2. didn't landon ruin one of the missions the good guys had in the bag by crashing the car into the margarita glasses?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but didn't Landon completely out climb Miz, as well as everyone else, on that one mission where they climb the rope? And he could of have kept going if there was more rope to climb? Landon was the strongest good guys on I2, tied with Alton for rookies on G2. Also, Miz admitted to suffering while running during the final mission, and he said Darrell and Landon were doing fine.
[QUOTE=faceless;134892]Maybe because some of us, don't mind JEK. Well, Johnny not so much. And maybe we wanted that team to win, and Wes was plague on that team. "I will tackle my teammates if I don't get what I want," come on, seriously? That's just stupid. My dislike for the way JEK act is nothing compared to the dislike I have for Wes.[/QUOTE]
Like everything JEK say isnt stupid?
[QUOTE=faceless;134989]You're joking right? Landon and CT were the 2 strongest guys on I2. Miz has never been the strongest guy. Good, and one of the best, but not the best.[/QUOTE]
Mike won 3 Life Shields on the challenge. He started off fast by winning the first two and then dropped off big time for much of the rest of the challenge. Landon won 4 Life Shields. On the other team, CT won 6 of the 8 Life Shields by comparrision and outside of Juice It Up & Zip Up, he by far had the best times/scores on Life Shield days out of the guys on both teams.
CT also outshined Mike when they were teammates on the first Inferno; CT won 4 of the 8 Life Savers and Mike won just 1. On Gauntlet 1, again, Mike was outperformed by a wide margain by a guy on his own team: Alton. Alton, like CT, won 4 Live Savers to Mike's 1.
[QUOTE=Aquatta;135027]Like everything JEK say isnt stupid?[/QUOTE]
OMG. Everything thing they do is R'tarded. I can't wait for a day when they get knocked off their high horses and their alliance crumbles on one of the challenges. It might not happen on the Ruins, but I'm hoping that it will happen on future challenges. I can't wait.
[QUOTE=ILuvWes;135053]OMG. Everything thing they do is R'tarded. I can't wait for a day when they get knocked off their high horses and their alliance crumbles on one of the challenges. It might not happen on the Ruins, but I'm hoping that it will happen on future challenges. I can't wait.[/QUOTE]
I'm just waiting for the day too, I'm team Wes all the way. Johnny and Kenny are just lucky that he was on the same team. Because frankly he could easily have taken Kenny or Johnny out and possibly even Evan. Kenny acted all high and mighty when Wes lost. Yet the coward wouldn't volunteer to go in a faceoff. While Wes had already been in 2. Furthermore, Wes's good friend Neihmah took Kenny's *** out in the Duel. Johnny lost the faceoffs he went into before. Out of JEK, I only have respect for Evan somewhat but only as a competitor.
[QUOTE=trees12;135098]I'm just waiting for the day too, I'm team Wes all the way. Johnny and Kenny are just lucky that he was on the same team. [B]Because frankly he could easily have taken Kenny or Johnny out and possibly even Evan.[/B] Kenny acted all high and mighty when Wes lost. Yet the coward wouldn't volunteer to go in a faceoff. While Wes had already been in 2. Furthermore, Wes's good friend Neihmah took Kenny's *** out in the Duel. Johnny lost the faceoffs he went into before. Out of JEK, [B]I only have respect for Evan somewhat but only as a competitor[/B].[/QUOTE]
I agree. That is so true, he is a good competitor, I'll give him that much.
I have a question, I just read in a forum that people wanted Aviv (Fresh Meat winner) to get back on the challenge, however MTV and the production company said she is too boring and didnt want her to come back. Can this be true?
God, I LOVED BOTSexes. That was the season where Ruthie was just dominating on the female side. You had Antonie, who really surprised me on how well he performed. And even though Emily was a *****, when she wanted Veronica out, she found a way to get the ***** out. I miss competitors like Emily and Ruthie.
Plus, in the older challenges: the cast had FUN! There was drama, but in the end the cast found a way to just let that go and have good fun. It was not about alcohol and see who can sleep with the most challengers. (Remember in BOTSeasons they had the toga party and all.)
I have a couple of questions.
1. How many more Challenges are to come? The fact that they introduce new players with Fresh Meat 2 indicates that there will be many more, but who knows?
2. Does the production company or MTV read the forums and care what the fans think?
I have the feeling that people are becoming tired of the JEK domination.
Also, that the social and political aspect of the shows are much more important than the physical aspect.
E.g. Kenny has not been in a Ruin yet, but talks S*** about someone like Wes. I don't want to see the chicken Kenny in the finals. He would not deserve it.
As much as I dislike JEK, I have to admit that Evan at least went into several duels/face-offs and proved that he is a good competitor.
Little drama and alliances are important parts of the show, but this is still a Challenge.
3. Was the order of face offs on The Island predetermined?
I don't really think so. Remember the ring battle between the three guys. If they send two men and one girl into the Face Off, that would have been too dangerous for the girl, let alone unfair. I thought the first Face Off was really unfair towards Tonya, I doubt that even Evelyn could have beaten the two guys.
But then Evelyn had a somehow "easy" face off against Dan and Tyrie.
Johnny has never proven himself.
He got taken out by his weakling cast mate Tyler. And he was called out by CT has the weakest player and was thrown in. His little buddies Evan and Kenny didn't say **** because if they did, CT would have taken them out.
Kenny got beat by Wes buddy Neihamiah. And since then never gone in to another Elimination match.
Evan has proven himself as one of the best. In FM he carried Coral big *** and in Duel 2, he took out 3 people.
If you watch the preview of the next episode Kenny calls Johnny an Idiot in a serious tone. Whenever you have Evan and Kenny together they forget about Johnny. Its not JEK its EK or KJ. Because to me Evan doesn't seem to really give a **** about Johnny and views him as an annoying problem.
Kenny and Johnny worked together in the Island. You can't deny that.
But I've never seen Evan really care much for Johnny in this "Ruins" or in any other shows before, he even took out Johnny in the Gauntlet III. Hes always been close to Kenny though and they are controlling their team right now. Johnny been left out. You would understand this more if you watched the Dailies.
To me it seems Kenny and Evan are always working to get the strongest Alliance. And they get along with all the males competitors.
Johnny on the other hand is a ******* and few people tolerate his ***. Hes just lucky the few that do are Kenny and Evan.
So forget about the whole JEK. Its more like EK.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;135223]Doesn't Kenny call most people idiots?[/QUOTE]
Yep hes a Jersey Italian Kid who lives with his mom. Talks a lot of **** then never backs them up. Huge ego for people who have never done **** with their lives. Kenny has already been to the most challenges of anybody ever. No life outside these shows.
[QUOTE=colt1819;135226]Yep hes a Jersey Italian Kid who lives with his mom. Talks a lot of **** then never backs them up. Huge ego for people who have never done **** with their lives. Kenny has already been to the most challenges of anybody ever. No life outside these shows.[/QUOTE]
Dude, if I had the chance to come to these Challenges and win a lot of money I'd do that too. As many as I could. You can't say Kenny has no life just because he attends a lot of challenges. And there are a bunch of people that have done more challenges than Kenny.
Who are the people who always do these shows?
Basically the people who don't have a job and the people who have a lot of mental issues.
Its cool if you do them occasionally but all the time?
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