I think if Dustin/Heather and Sarah/Vinny hadnt been disqualified the season would have been a lot more interesting.
Vinny/Sarah would have been a guarantee final team since everbody would have kept them because they would think that they would beat them in a final. 100%
Heather and Dustin was a very solid team and they probably would have form an alliance with Emily and Ty/ CT and Diem together with Sarah and Vinny.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;325844]I think if Dustin/Heather and Sarah/Vinny hadnt been disqualified the season would have been a lot more interesting.
Vinny/Sarah would have been a guarantee final team since everbody would have kept them because they would think that they would beat them in a final. 100%
Heather and Dustin was a very solid team and they probably would have form an alliance with Emily and Ty/ CT and Diem together with Sarah and Vinny.[/QUOTE]
Guaranteed final team? Ya right if they wanted to take someone into the finals they knew they could beat why wouldn't they just take Rachel and Aneesa? Eventually they would've had to go in against CT or Ty and would have been sent home.
[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325849]Guaranteed final team? Ya right if they wanted to take someone into the finals they knew they could beat why wouldn't they just take [COLOR=black][B]Rachel and Aneesa[/B][/COLOR]? Eventually they would've had to go in against CT or Ty and would have been sent home.[/QUOTE]
Fat Tony was in a really bad shape, he wouldnt really pass a long distance final and the relationship between Sarah& Tony was not a good as Rachel and Aneesa. No way they would done it well. If they had a chance to keep a weak team, why would they throw them in an eround. Thats why Leroy&Mike went into the final of Rivals. I think those two would be last place in any daily challenge (maybe Rolling in theDeep as a toss up).
[QUOTE=GDInstall;325851]Fat Tony was in a really bad shape, he wouldnt really pass a long distance final and the relationship between Sarah& Tony was not a good as Rachel and Aneesa. No way they would done it well. If they had a chance to keep a weak team, why would they throw them in an eround. Thats why Leroy&Mike went into the final of Rivals. I think those two would be last place in any daily challenge (maybe Rolling in theDeep as a toss up).[/QUOTE]
Mike and Leroy went to the finals because Evan volunteered himself in the 3rd guys elimination to go against CT and then they won the last guys challenge. They would have gone into the last one against CT and Adam if they hadn't won. And I don't think they would have been last in every daily challenge, they won the 2nd one (even though it kinda seemed like Johnny and Camilla let them win). But even if they did lose all the time, that means they would have been going into eliminations so I don't really understand your argument.
[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325852]Mike and Leroy went to the finals because Evan volunteered himself in the 3rd guys elimination to go against CT and then they won the last guys challenge. They would have gone into the last one against CT and Adam if they hadn't won. And I don't think they would have been last in every daily challenge, they won the 2nd one (even though it kinda seemed like Johnny and Camilla let them win). But even if they did lose all the time, that means they would have been going into eliminations so I [B]don't really understand your argument[/B].[/QUOTE]
My point is if Heather/Dustin and Sarah/Fat Tony wouldnt have been disqualified then those two + CT/Diem and Ty/Emily probably would have formed an alliance against Johnny/Mark/Paula. In this position Sarah/Tony would have probably be in the best position in the house if they wouldnt have lose a daily challenge. They could easily flipflop and if one of the bigger teams would got last they probably would have chosen Anessa/Rachel + Tyrie/Jasmine, because they were the weakest team left. If those two would have been eliminated, nobody really would have voted Sarah/Tony for a dome. They probably would have go for the big dogs of the opposite side. To sum up the season would have been more unpredicable.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;325853]My point is if Heather/Dustin and Sarah/Fat Tony wouldnt have been disqualified then those two + CT/Diem and Ty/Emily probably would have formed an alliance against Johnny/Mark/Paula. In this position Sarah/Tony would have probably be in the best position in the house if they wouldnt have lose a daily challenge. They could easily flipflop and if one of the bigger teams would got last they probably would have chosen Anessa/Rachel + Tyrie/Jasmine, because they were the weakest team left. If those two would have been eliminated, nobody really would have voted Sarah/Tony for a dome. They probably would have go for the big dogs of the opposite side. To sum up the season would have been more unpredicable.[/QUOTE]
I think Heather and Dustin may have tried that if they ever came to power, but Sarah and Vinny put in Wes and Mandi just like Johnny/Camilla did. She's just as much part of team Johnny as most other regulars.
[QUOTE=ellethevegan;325850]So on the polls it looks like the Duel 3 maybe the next challenge coming up...[/QUOTE]
That's what the fans what. I have a very good feeling that MTV already knows what they want their next challenge to be and are just asking to appease people who think they don't listen to their viewers.
[QUOTE=molds13;325855]That's what the fans what. I have a very good feeling that MTV already knows what they want their next challenge to be and are just asking to appease people who think they don't listen to their viewers.[/QUOTE]
So does that mean that they want to do a duel 3 as well, or they think that we want rookies vs veterans.?
[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;325854]I think Heather and Dustin may have tried that if they ever came to power, but Sarah and Vinny put in Wes and Mandi just like Johnny/Camilla did. She's just as much part of team Johnny as most other regulars.[/QUOTE]
No, I think they choose Wes, because Vinny absolutely hates/hated Wes at this point. As far as I know Vinny and CT are pretty close friends outside the show, but townie may know that better.
What surprises me here is that a lot of fans are voting for an Island 2. Since this challenge got and gets a lot of bad reviews and reputation.
Nevertheless, I think there is more money into a Vets vs. Rookie season than in a Duel 3 right now. Maybe MTV/BMP should look which Rookie may be a good castmember for a Duel 3 by doing an other challenge before it.
Molds13 are the rumors true about a Vets vs. Rookies type of thing?
Right now is the time to do a Veterans vs Rookies or Old School vs New School. With this challenge being ran by the rookies because the lack of veterans it sets the next challenge up perfectly. It also allows more challenge newbies and old school veterans to return.
[QUOTE=Lola88;325865]I know it hasn't been renewed yet, but if it does y'all think filming will begin filming in January? Or wait til Summer?[/QUOTE]
TJ Lavin said he would be hosting his 14th season... I think that's where most people are coming from when they talk about next season.
[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;325867]TJ Lavin said he would be hosting his 14th season... I think that's where most people are coming from when they talk about next season.[/QUOTE]
MTV is also taking a poll on what format they should do for the next challenge, so it's pretty much confirmed.
All I know is... if there's ever a Duel 3 it needs to have less players than Duel 2, that way there won't be a male and a female going home each episode. For some reason that bothered me although it made sense. I may be the only one though.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;325871]All I know is... if there's ever a Duel 3 it needs to have less players than Duel 2, that way there won't be a male and a female going home each episode. For some reason that bothered me although it made sense. I may be the only one though.[/QUOTE]
I didn't like or dislike that idea. It had no effect on me really. I think I just liked the fact that there was more competition
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;325871]All I know is... if there's ever a Duel 3 it needs to have less players than Duel 2, that way there won't be a male and a female going home each episode. For some reason that bothered me although it made sense. I may be the only one though.[/QUOTE]
I actually liked that. A Duel 3 must have individual missions though.
[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;325871]All I know is... if there's ever a Duel 3 it needs to have less players than Duel 2, that way there won't be a male and a female going home each episode. For some reason that bothered me although it made sense. I may be the only one though.[/QUOTE]
If anything I want more players not less and definitely prefer a guy & girl going home each episode.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325873]I actually liked that. [B]A Duel 3 must have individual missions though.[/B][/QUOTE]
Yep--hell, I don't even care what the missions are but no partner based missions
[QUOTE=kvm1977;325878]Yep--hell, I don't even care what the missions are but no partner based missions[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Selfishly I'd want an oil wrestling one like the one this season. Can you imagine Rachel/Evelyn/Emily/Laurel in a mission like that?
[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325813]I don't think it's the best season yet, but I think it is a good season and one that was necessary to do, and for the most part it's been a success. They needed to get new kids in there and establish some new stars, and they've done a decent job of doing that with Frank and Zach for sure and also to a lesser extent Nany, Dustin, Knight, Devyn, Chet (even though he'd already been on 2), and Marie. I do think they put way too many people that should have never been on a challenge on this season just to fill teams (Derek, [B]JD[/B], Lacey, Laura,[B] Preston[/B], Sam, Ashley, and even CJ are extremely boring). To me what takes away from this season is that Zach is one of the stars, and I just feel like everything he does is fake and for the cameras. I feel the same way about Frank, but at least he's interesting sometimes. I'd say of the last 5 seasons BOTS 2 is better than FM2 and Cutthroat, not as good as Rivals and TBD if it's better than Exes. The Exes final was the best episode of the series in my opinion so that's why it has an edge for me over BOTS2.[/QUOTE]
I'll Agree with everything but these two based on their actions on their RW season they should be brought to the challenge but I'm guesing they realized how disliked they were so they changed but I agree every team besides NOLA , Vegas and Brooklyn had a filler or 2.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325880]Agreed. Selfishly I'd want an oil wrestling one like the one this season. Can you imagine Rachel/Evelyn/Emily/Laurel in a mission like that?[/QUOTE]
That would be the greatest thing ever. Plus, I'd love to see if Aneesa, Tori, Sarah, KellyAnne, Theresa, Ashlee (NOLA), etc could challenge them.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;325886]That would be the greatest thing ever. Plus, I'd love to see if Aneesa, Tori, Sarah, KellyAnne, Theresa, Ashlee (NOLA), etc could challenge them.[/QUOTE]
Agreed! My ideal female cast would be: Laurel, Emily, Evelyn, Rachel, Cara Maria, Camila, Aneesa, Kellyanne, Tori, Jonna, & Sarah.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325889]Agreed! My ideal female cast would be: Laurel, Emily, Evelyn, Rachel, Cara Maria, Camila, Aneesa, Kellyanne, Tori, Jonna, & Sarah.[/QUOTE]
I want Theresa and Ashlee included so I'd bump Cara Maria and go with 12 but we basically agree.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;325890]I want Theresa and Ashlee included so I'd bump Cara Maria and go with 12 but we basically agree.[/QUOTE]
That's fair, I really only included her to see the Evelyn/Laurel/CM friendship on a challenge (they're apparently really good friends). I'm interested as to how Theresa would do.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325891]That's fair, I really only included her to see the Evelyn/Laurel/CM friendship on a challenge (they're apparently really good friends). I'm interested as to how Theresa would do.[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with that--I wouldn't be upset/angry if Cara Maria was included--just thought she'd be the easiest to bump.
I want to see what Theresa can do as well which is why I included her.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;325892]Nothing wrong with that--I wouldn't be upset/angry if Cara Maria was included--just thought she'd be the easiest to bump.
I want to see what Theresa can do as well which is why I included her.[/QUOTE]
She has been on every challenge since FM2 so a break would be good. The best part about that cast is there are no weak links and every duel would be great and a toss-up.
I think it's pretty obvious next season won't be a duel, it will either be a ruins, gauntlet or a new format that has rookies vs vets. I don't think it's the right time to do a duel yet, they should do a rookies vs vets and then set up for a monster duel 3. I also don't think they should do a duel next season because so many girls are gonna be unavailable next season (Ev, Diem, Susie, Tori, Veronica, Jenn if she's still retired) but hopefully in a year or so when they film season 25 most of those girls will be available, although I doubt Veronica or Tori will ever do another one.
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