The Challenge: Generic Thread

[QUOTE=kvm1977;325648]4-0 (free pass in The Gauntlet 2, 1-0 in The Inferno 3 and 3-0 in the Ruins)[/QUOTE] Lol wait so entering her first Ruins she was just 1-0? You'd think she was at least 3-0 given how much she was saying that she was undefeated and making it out to be a big deal.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325746]Lol wait so entering her first Ruins she was just 1-0? You'd think she was at least 3-0 given how much she was saying that she was undefeated and making it out to be a big deal.[/QUOTE] and that inferno elimination was so rigged. Production loved Susie and didn't want her to be eliminated. Jenn's carabiner was jammed from the start so Susie won...and Susie's win against Casey was nothing. So to me she's 2-0 lol.

I think Susie was always including her wins on Road Rules: Viewer's Revenge when she said she was undefeated. She won a few times, but I don't even think she was undefeated on that show? I forget. But yeah I always rolled my eyes when they talked her up so much on The Ruins.

[QUOTE=mph922;325759]I think Susie was always including her wins on Road Rules: Viewer's Revenge when she said she was undefeated. She won a few times, but I don't even think she was undefeated on that show? I forget. But yeah I always rolled my eyes when they talked her up so much on The Ruins.[/QUOTE] Well she kind of lost once on that. Albeit she voluntarily lost but still

I think she means undefeated as in she always made it to the end of the game. Evelyn, Veronica, Katie, Ibis, Johanna and Tonya had all experienced at least one elimination in their record. Although her elimination record wasn't impressive, the strategies she uses to get to the end are always very controversial and she gets air time from it each season.

[QUOTE=jhl182;325753]and that inferno elimination was so rigged. Production loved Susie and didn't want her to be eliminated. Jenn's carabiner was jammed from the start so Susie won...and Susie's win against Casey was nothing. So to me she's 2-0 lol.[/QUOTE] If we don't count beating Casey then Evelyn is 0-1 in one on one eliminations. :)

[QUOTE=kvm1977;325768]If we don't count beating Casey then Evelyn is 0-1 in one on one eliminations. :)[/QUOTE] If we don't count Casey or eliminations where she threw, then she is 0-0 in head to head eliminations. EVELYN IS A BUM THAT HAS BEEN GETTING FREE RIDES!* [SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=1][SIZE=1]*Or people are scared to face her[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

Very interesting that someone like Evelyn has only been in 2 one on one eliminations, but has been on 7 Challenges. Just to bring up another topic, does anyone see someone breaking Laurel and Emily's undefeated streaks?

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325778]Very interesting that someone like Evelyn has only been in 2 one on one eliminations, but has been on 7 Challenges. Just to bring up another topic, does anyone see someone breaking Laurel and Emily's undefeated streaks?[/QUOTE] A couple of people could fairly easily beat Emily in a puzzle or something more strategic... Her lack of logical and strategical thinking won´t ever allow her to fully shine in my opinion.... Physically she [I]could[/I](and probably [I]will[/I]) very much dominate (she is who she is, after all;) and while this is always the main factor of the challenge it´s never the sole one...

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325778]Very interesting that someone like Evelyn has only been in 2 one on one eliminations, but has been on 7 Challenges. [/QUOTE] In her defense, 2 of them were Fresh Meats, 1 of them was Rivals, and another was the Island. So technically the only one she missed 1vs1 elimination round wise was Inferno 3. But since the targets were Tonya/Jenn and Susie, it was easier to win. If you count the 2vs2's and 1vs1vs1's Her record would be 5-3 *or close to that*, 4-2 if you don't count Casey or Kelly Anne.

[QUOTE=SkylarGuy23;325784]In her defense, 2 of them were Fresh Meats, 1 of them was Rivals, and another was the Island. So technically the only one she missed 1vs1 elimination round wise was Inferno 3. But since the targets were Tonya/Jenn and Susie, it was easier to win. If you count the 2vs2's and 1vs1vs1's Her record would be 5-3 *or close to that*, 4-2 if you don't count Casey or Kelly Anne.[/QUOTE] I was just counting 1 on 1 eliminations there. Overall, I'd count her record as 5-3 which isn't bad.

If you usually listen to Derrick's podcast, don't this week. It's the biggest piece of garbage I've ever heard and that's saying a lot Derrick's podcasts are usually pretty bad. It's basically just Trey talking about himself and how he has no regrets, Derrick talking about himself and referencing the Gauntlet 2 for the 521351325th time, and Laura talking about her adoption. At one point they actually pretend that Frank and Dustin are fighting and have Laura announce the fake fight, and it goes on for a solid 5 minutes. Just please trust me and save yourself an hour that you can never get back.

[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325797]If you usually listen to Derrick's podcast, don't this week. It's the biggest piece of garbage I've ever heard and that's saying a lot Derrick's podcasts are usually pretty bad. It's basically just Trey talking about himself and how he has no regrets, Derrick talking about himself and referencing the Gauntlet 2 for the 521351325th time, and Laura talking about her adoption. At one point they actually pretend that Frank and Dustin are fighting and have Laura announce the fake fight, and it goes on for a solid 5 minutes. Just please trust me and save yourself an hour that you can never get back.[/QUOTE] Jemmye also tweeted something about Laura and Trey saying she hooked up with someone...but she didn't know what they were talking about.

[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325797]If you usually listen to Derrick's podcast, don't this week. It's the biggest piece of garbage I've ever heard and that's saying a lot Derrick's podcasts are usually pretty bad. It's basically just Trey talking about himself and how he has no regrets, Derrick talking about himself and referencing the Gauntlet 2 for the 521351325th time, and Laura talking about her adoption. At one point they actually pretend that Frank and Dustin are fighting and have Laura announce the fake fight, and it goes on for a solid 5 minutes. Just please trust me and save yourself an hour that you can never get back.[/QUOTE] Watching paint dry >>>>>>>>> listening to Derrick's boring and horrible podcasts.

I just want to voice my opinion that Battle of The Season 2 is the best season yet with still 5 episodes to go. Great Drunken Drama: Nany vs Knight, Frank vs Wes Great Strategy Drama: Frank vs Zach, Alton vs Team Vegas Great Meltdowns: Camila vs Big Easy, Camila vs Brandon Great Challenges: Not just all over water, and even some comedic challenges. Great Elimination rounds: They have almost all been nail biting. I hope I'm not the only one with this opinion.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;325810]I just want to voice my opinion that Battle of The Season 2 is the best season yet with still 5 episodes to go. Great Drunken Drama: Nany vs Knight, Frank vs Wes Great Strategy Drama: Frank vs Zach, Alton vs Team Vegas Great Meltdowns: Camila vs Big Easy, Camila vs Brandon Great Challenges: Not just all over water, and even some comedic challenges. Great Elimination rounds: They have almost all been nail biting. I hope I'm not the only one with this opinion.[/QUOTE] I think it's a great season too. I don't think it's the best (Inferno 1&2 and Ruins are my favorites), but I think the new players are quite refreshing, and that future challenges are going to be even better because you'll excite viewers with the old, but now you have the new to root for (or not root for) too. I like how they've featured new story lines just about every week instead of Wes... Kenny... who did Mandi sleep with now?... Sarah... Johnny... Paula and Dunbar... only one amazing head to head at the end like that makes it all better... while the new people go home too quickly for a storyline. In fact I don't remember much from Brittni, Brianna, Ayiiaa or many other newbies like the story lines now. I actually kinda know these players now. And I swear I've seen those horse heads everywhere since watching that episode :-P

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;325810]I just want to voice my opinion that Battle of The Season 2 is the best season yet with still 5 episodes to go. Great Drunken Drama: Nany vs Knight, Frank vs Wes Great Strategy Drama: Frank vs Zach, Alton vs Team Vegas Great Meltdowns: Camila vs Big Easy, Camila vs Brandon Great Challenges: Not just all over water, and even some comedic challenges. Great Elimination rounds: They have almost all been nail biting. I hope I'm not the only one with this opinion.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's the best season yet, but I think it is a good season and one that was necessary to do, and for the most part it's been a success. They needed to get new kids in there and establish some new stars, and they've done a decent job of doing that with Frank and Zach for sure and also to a lesser extent Nany, Dustin, Knight, Devyn, Chet (even though he'd already been on 2), and Marie. I do think they put way too many people that should have never been on a challenge on this season just to fill teams (Derek, JD, Lacey, Laura, Preston, Sam, Ashley, and even CJ are extremely boring). To me what takes away from this season is that Zach is one of the stars, and I just feel like everything he does is fake and for the cameras. I feel the same way about Frank, but at least he's interesting sometimes. I'd say of the last 5 seasons BOTS 2 is better than FM2 and Cutthroat, not as good as Rivals and TBD if it's better than Exes. The Exes final was the best episode of the series in my opinion so that's why it has an edge for me over BOTS2.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;325810]I just want to voice my opinion that Battle of The Season 2 is the best season yet with still 5 episodes to go. Great Drunken Drama: Nany vs Knight, Frank vs Wes Great Strategy Drama: Frank vs Zach, Alton vs Team Vegas Great Meltdowns: Camila vs Big Easy, Camila vs Brandon Great Challenges: Not just all over water, and even some comedic challenges. Great Elimination rounds: They have almost all been nail biting. I hope I'm not the only one with this opinion.[/QUOTE] I don't think there's been much strategy at all. Alton volunteered Vegas to go in--other than that it has been very basic at best. CJ wanted revenge, Frank was mad at Camila, Brooklyn was the odd-man out so repeatedly sent it...I see no strategy here. Jonna was right when she said they should have sent in Vegas earlier and Frank was too stupid to do it. Some horrible challenges (the wrestling one was a disaster as was "Don't Weight Me Down") and some decent ones but really none that have given us any indication of how good these teams are with the exception of the last one. What elimination round was a nail bitter? Wes & Lacey got destroyed, the first endurance elimination was so bad they changed the rules, Chet & Sarah crushed Brandon & Cara Maria, Eric pathetically quit, Sarah & Chet killed McKenzie & Preston and Sam & Zach killed Jemmye & Knight. The only decent one was probably Dustin & Nany beating Laura & Trey. The season isn't over yet but not even close to the best season ever.

[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325813] They needed to get new kids in there and establish some new stars, and they've done a decent job of doing that with Frank and Zach for sure and also to a lesser extent Nany, Dustin, Knight, Devyn, Chet (even though he'd already been on 2), and Marie. I do think they put way too many people that should have never been on a challenge on this season just to fill teams (Derek, JD, Lacey, Laura, Preston, Sam, Ashley, and even CJ are extremely boring). To me what takes away from this season is that Zach is one of the stars, and I just feel like everything he does is fake and for the cameras. I feel the same way about Frank, but at least he's interesting sometimes. I'd say of the last 5 seasons BOTS 2 is better than FM2 and Cutthroat, not as good as Rivals and TBD if it's better than Exes. The Exes final was the best episode of the series in my opinion so that's why it has an edge for me over BOTS2.[/QUOTE] Frank & Zach aren't stars--they aren't even people you love to hate (like JEK)--you just want them off your TV as fast as possible. I think they're trying to sell the wrong new people. I thought Cutthroat was 10x better. Rivals & Exes were definiteyl better. I liked Fresh Meat II better because there was far more strategy involved than we've seen so far this season. It all comes down to what you want. I don't care about drama at all so this season has been weak IMO--there's very little competition.

Sorry--double post

[QUOTE=kvm1977;325817]Frank & Zach aren't stars--they aren't even people you love to hate (like JEK)--you just want them off your TV as fast as possible. I think they're trying to sell the wrong new people.[/QUOTE] I totally agree with you! I feel the same way re: Frank and Zach. I don't find them entertaining; they are more irritating and unnecessary than anything. And Frank is the absolute worst imho.

[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;325813]I'd say of the last 5 seasons BOTS 2 is better than FM2 and Cutthroat, not as good as Rivals and TBD if it's better than Exes. The Exes final was the best episode of the series in my opinion so that's why it has an edge for me over BOTS2.[/QUOTE] I agree with you on this. IMO it's far better than FMII and Cutthroat. Rivals is going to be hard to beat, because I think that season was one of the best in all time. So far it's pretty much tied with Exes, but I think it may beat it by the end of the season.

Cut Throat was alright at best. Better than Ruins, Duel 2, and Fresh Meat 2 IMO. I actually hated Rivals. I hate seeing Kenny, Evan, and Johnny all on one challenge once again, especially when two of the three make the finals. Completely killed the Challenge for me. Battle of the Exes was very good because we saw Emily and Ty absolutely obliterate the competition in the elimination rounds. They beat what, 3 or 4 teams? Leroy and Naomi, Abram and Cara Maria, and Dunbar and Paula. Plus CT and Diem making it to the Finals was refreshing. Unfortunately we saw Johnny win again. Battle of the Season so far is excellent. With teams Brooklyn and Las Vegas still fully intact, if they end up picking making it to the final, it would be absolutely perfect. Rookies come in, team up and take out majority of the Vets, remaining Vets out-play the Rookies to capture the money. Couldn't be better.

I never liked Susie and the way she played the game, but I always respected the way she played it because she had to do what she had to do to make it far. I think I mostly [I]hated[/I] her because of her bullying Tonya on I3. But anyway, Remember when Tyler came into these challenges very unlikable and catty? def. not with a strong personality as Frank but just saying… Then later on he began to simmer down and became more likable. I think eventually Frank will follow suit, he reminds me too much of Tyler mixed with Wes. @ChallengeGod, too late. I listened to the whole podcast, a good hours waste of my life. But Trey and Laura are very nice and humble being.

[QUOTE=ILoveRW;325810]I just want to voice my opinion that Battle of The Season 2 is the best season yet with still 5 episodes to go. Great Drunken Drama: Nany vs Knight, Frank vs Wes Great Strategy Drama: Frank vs Zach, Alton vs Team Vegas Great Meltdowns: Camila vs Big Easy, Camila vs Brandon Great Challenges: Not just all over water, and even some comedic challenges. Great Elimination rounds: They have almost all been nail biting. I hope I'm not the only one with this opinion.[/QUOTE] I like this challenge and I'd say it's better than Exes or FM2, but I wouldn't call it the best in a long shot. I enjoyed Cutthroat and Rivals more, but I will say these missions are much better than previous challenges. The drama is very good, I enjoy it, and it's nice to see new faces and have a sense of unpredictability (Exes was the exact opposite).

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325837]I like this challenge and I'd say it's better than Exes or FM2, but I wouldn't call it the best in a long shot. I enjoyed Cutthroat and Rivals more, but I will say these missions are much better than previous challenges. The drama is very good, I enjoy it, and it's nice to see new faces and have a sense of unpredictability (Exes was the exact opposite).[/QUOTE] You thought Exes was predictable? Wow, I thought it was one of the most unpredictable challenges to date. Leroy slaughtering Wes in the dome. Ty and Emily beating three great teams. Vinny and Sarah getting sent home over Vinny's stupid antics.

[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;325838]You thought Exes was predictable? Wow, I thought it was one of the most unpredictable challenges to date. Leroy slaughtering Wes in the dome. Ty and Emily beating three great teams. Vinny and Sarah getting sent home over Vinny's stupid antics.[/QUOTE] Exes was very predictable. I thought it was extremely dull also. After episode 2, there was no real drama.

[QUOTE=UrbanTactics;325838]You thought Exes was predictable? Wow, I thought it was one of the most unpredictable challenges to date. Leroy slaughtering Wes in the dome. Ty and Emily beating three great teams. Vinny and Sarah getting sent home over Vinny's stupid antics.[/QUOTE] Johnny, Paula, Mark, and CT all made the top 5 teams, that in itself made this season a bit too bland for me. All the rookies were gone by episode 3 as well and I wasn't feeling it too much. I always suspected Ty/Emily to dominate, I was only shocked to see Ty beat Abe. They beat Naomi/Leroy (bad team), CM/Abe (good team), & Paula/Dunbar (good team). Leroy beasting Wes in that Dome was no shock at all.

[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;325840]Exes was very predictable. I thought it was extremely dull also. After episode 2, there was no real drama.[/QUOTE] Yeah, there wasn't much drama, I will give you that. But the competition was good. Almost every team was strong in a way, whereas the teams on this season would get dominated by any decent Vet team. I was rooting for Emily and Ty from the beginning so that's maybe why I loved the season.

[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;325841]Johnny, Paula, Mark, and CT all made the top 5 teams, that in itself made this season a bit too bland for me. All the rookies were gone by episode 3 as well and I wasn't feeling it too much. I always suspected Ty/Emily to dominate, I was only shocked to see Ty beat Abe. They beat Naomi/Leroy (bad team), CM/Abe (good team), & Paula/Dunbar (good team). Leroy beasting Wes in that Dome was no shock at all.[/QUOTE] That's how I saw Rivals. I think Rivals was one of the worst challenges to date. Seeing Kenny, Wes, Johnny, and Paula all make it to the finals was terrible. The only good thing about that whole season was seeing Mike. Oh, and Evan getting sent home early too.