[QUOTE=Karisa502;428332]Why are people like Brad, not supposely Darrell, Mark Long, Derrick not being asked?[/QUOTE]
Mark has no exes that are even remotely going to consider saying yes, Derrick's wife would NEVER let him go on exes. Brad can stay home IMO but Darrell should be asked
[QUOTE=mickeyflo24;428347]Since this is a generic thread I can post this right?? Can someone list the most athletic competitor on the challenge (no politics involved) to the least athletic out of these people: Landon, Alton, Derrick, Mark Long, Theo, Miz, CT, Darrell, Wes, Evan, Kenny, Johnny Bananas, Tyler, Abram, Timmy, Brad, and Dan S. I haven't watched any of the old challenges, oldest one I've watched was Gauntlet 3.[/QUOTE]
1) Landon
2) CT
3) Johnny Bananas
4) Darrell
5) Theo
6) Kenny
7) Evan
8) Miz
9) Wes
10) Theo
11) Derrick
12) Abram
13) Dan S.
14) Tyler
15) Alton
16) Brad
17) Mark Long
18) Timmy
[QUOTE=Scouxx;428647]Didn't Darrell & Cara Maria hook up on Fresh Meat II? Now, [I]that [/I]would be an epic team for Exes 2.[/QUOTE]
Because they did so well the first time they were partners.
[QUOTE=alaskak94;428667]Because they did so well the first time they were partners.[/QUOTE]
Says Darrell and Cara Maria will suck
Doesn't realize that present Cara is 10x the competitor she was back then.
[QUOTE=mickeyflo24;428347]Since this is a generic thread I can post this right?? Can someone list the most athletic competitor on the challenge (no politics involved) to the least athletic out of these people: Landon, Alton, Derrick, Mark Long, Theo, Miz, CT, Darrell, Wes, Evan, Kenny, Johnny Bananas, Tyler, Abram, Timmy, Brad, and Dan S. I haven't watched any of the old challenges, oldest one I've watched was Gauntlet 3.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing you mean the best overall performers in missions right?
1. CT
2. Theo Von
3. Landon
4. Dan Setzler
5. Mark
6. The Miz
7. Abram
8. Derrick
9. Brad
10. Jamie
Those are the top ten best overall competitors all time. Evan is 12th on my list, Wes is 20th, and Johnny, Timmy, Tyler and Kenny don't crack the top twenty.
[QUOTE=mickeyflo24;428347]Since this is a generic thread I can post this right?? Can someone list the most athletic competitor on the challenge (no politics involved) to the least athletic out of these people: Landon, Alton, Derrick, Mark Long, Theo, Miz, CT, Darrell, Wes, Evan, Kenny, Johnny Bananas, Tyler, Abram, Timmy, Brad, and Dan S. I haven't watched any of the old challenges, oldest one I've watched was Gauntlet 3.[/QUOTE]
I would just say CT, Landon, Mark, and Theo are probably the top 4. Kenny would easily be on the bottom of this list.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;428709]Kenny, Tyler and [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Johnny[/COLOR][/B] aren't even in the discussion when it comes to the best overall competitors all time.[/QUOTE]
What show are you watching?
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;428710]What show are you watching?[/QUOTE]
Johnny is not on the same level as those in my top ten, bottom line. He is a good competitor, but his abilities aren't as good as some of the best. People overrate Johnny because of failure to strongly analyze his accomplishments.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;428714]Johnny is not on the same level as those in my top ten, bottom line. He is a good competitor, but his abilities aren't as good as some of the best. People overrate Johnny because of failure to strongly analyze his accomplishments.[/QUOTE]
You put Jamie ahead of Bananas when hardly anyone even remembers him.
I would also have Bananas over the overrated Theo.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;428636]Mark has no exes that are even remotely going to consider saying yes, Derrick's wife would NEVER let him go on exes. Brad can stay home IMO but Darrell should be asked[/QUOTE]
Well Mark has Robin who is thirsty to compete again.
[QUOTE=toenails;428732]Dan Setzler shouldn't even be in the discussion IMO. He's never even had to do a Challenge with elimination rounds.[/QUOTE]
It's funny when people praise challengers that have only done 2-3 challengers and try and say they're "top 10 material".
[QUOTE=JayTee;428727]You put Jamie ahead of Bananas when [B]hardly anyone even remembers him.[/B]
I would also have Bananas over the overrated Theo.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but ranking competitors (based on performance and ability) should not be a popularity contest. And don't EVER disrespect Theo by ranking Johnny over him (even just putting them in the same sentence). Theo is perfect in mission performance, he never DQ'd in a mission and was never outperformed overall by another competitor. Saying that Theo is overrated shows your severe lack of knowledge of competitors.
[QUOTE=toenails;428732]Dan Setzler shouldn't even be in the discussion IMO. He's never even had to do a Challenge with elimination rounds.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter! Mission stats make up the bulk of a competitors stats, not elimination round stats. Dan was always a top two performer on his seasons.
[QUOTE=JayTee;428734]It's funny when people praise challengers that have only done 2-3 challengers and try and say they're "top 10 material".[/QUOTE]
When you perform at the top on all three of your challenges (which Dan did), than you certainly have a case for top 10 all time.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;428737]Doesn't matter! Mission stats make up the bulk of a competitors stats, not elimination round stats. Dan was always a top two performer on his seasons.[/QUOTE]
Top 2? Dan was like the 5th best guy on Seasons at best and I doubt you've even seen him on Challenge 2000
BOTS2 eh he was top 5 but I don't know if I'd put him above Mark or Theo, or even Brad for that matter
[QUOTE=PaulX001;428738]When you perform at the top on all three of your challenges (which Dan did), than you certainly have a case for top 10 all time.[/QUOTE]
So Bananas isn't worth of cracking the top 10 after winning the most challenges and seeing the most finals? And I'm sure if you counted all of his mission wins he would have more than Theo, Dan S. and Jamie combined.
Kenny, Evan, Bananas and Frank are all better than Jamie.
Kenny, Evan and Bananas are better overall than Dan S.
Bananas, Kenny and Evan are a toss up when compared to Theo. He's overrated imo and was not good on Freshmeat.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;428739]Top 2? Dan was like the 5th best guy on Seasons at best and I doubt you've even seen him on Challenge 2000
BOTS2 eh he was top 5 but I don't know if I'd put him above Mark or Theo, or even Brad for that matter[/QUOTE]
I've seen all of the challenges dating back to the very first, and I am an old school challenge expert. Dan was the 2nd best competitor on Battle of the Seasons, he outperformed all of the males (including the Miz) except for Theo (who was the best performer). On Battle of the Sexes 2, he was tied with Theo for best competitor. He outperformed all of the males (expect for Theo) overall in the five individual based missions which were Dangle Drop, Bombs Away, Sa Wing, High Noon and Semi-Cross. Mark and Brad were the next two best competitors after Dan and Theo on Battle of the Sexes 2, both were tied in performance as well.
[QUOTE]So Bananas isn't worth of cracking the top 10 after winning the most challenges and seeing the most finals? And I'm sure if you counted all of his mission wins he would have more than Theo, Dan S. and Jamie combined. [/QUOTE]
Winning challenges is irrelevant, because luck and circumstances play a lot into it. Darrell himself credit his four challenge wins to luck and good timing on the Fresh Meat reunion. In individual based mission (not pair), Johnny is simply not better than Theo, Dan S or Jamie. Theo was the best performer on Battle of the Seasons, the Gauntlet (roughly), tied for best on Battle of the Sexes 2, and roughly the best on Fresh Meat (in the missions not the Exile). I already gave Dan's case, and Jamie was the 2nd best performer on the Extreme Challenge and finished 3rd out of eighteen males on Battle of the Sexes, that's a better individual accomplishment than anything Johnny has done (even his Free Agents performance).
[QUOTE]Kenny, Evan, Bananas and Frank are all better than Jamie. [/QUOTE]
LOL! You don't know competitors at all! Only Evan is close to Jamie, Kenny shouldn't even be in this discussion. What performance Kenny has given individually that can better or even match Jamie's Battle of the Sexes performance? Jamie was a top performer on all three of his challenges, Kenny was lackluster on the Duel and Inferno 3. Johnny has nothing on Jamie expect elimination round wins (though Jamie never went into an elimination round).
[QUOTE]Kenny, Evan and Bananas are better overall than Dan S. [/QUOTE]
You're not making any sense at all. Dan's Battle of the Sexes 2 performance is better than any performance even by any of those three. He outperformed a prime Mark, Brad, the Miz, Abram and Derrick on that season.
[QUOTE]Bananas, Kenny and Evan are a toss up when compared to Theo. He's overrated imo and was not good on Freshmeat.
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Theo was roughly the best performer in missions on Fresh Meat, he just had that poor Exile performance. Theo never DQ'd in a mission and was never outperformed overall by another competitor. He was the best competitor on three challenges, do Johnny, Kenny and Evan match that?
Theo was never outperformed overall individually by another competitor on all four of his challenges, Evan was outperformed on the Duel 2 by Brad, Mark and Landon, not to mention he blew on Rivals (doesn't matter that he purposefully threw that challenge). Evan was never statistically the best performer on any of his seasons (CT was the best on the Duel roughly), Theo was the best on three (Battle of the Seasons, the Gauntlet and Battle of the Sexes 2), not to mention that Theo was slightly better individually than Evan on Fresh Meat (since Evan and Coral both threw Jail Break). Lastly, Theo outperformed Mark who was roughly still in his prime on Battle of the Sexes 2, while Evan was outperformed overall by a 37 year old Mark (past his prime) on the Duel 2. Evan just gradually got worse as a competitor while Theo was always consistent.
Now I ask, if Evan doesn't compare to Theo, what makes you think Johnny and especially Kenny do?
[QUOTE=PaulX001;428741]I've seen all of the challenges dating back to the very first, and I am an old school [B]challenge expert[/B]. Dan was the 2nd best competitor on Battle of the Seasons, he outperformed all of the males (including the Miz) except for Theo (who was the best performer). On Battle of the Sexes 2, he was tied with Theo for best competitor. He outperformed all of the males (expect for Theo) overall in the five individual based missions which were Dangle Drop, Bombs Away, Sa Wing, High Noon and Semi-Cross. Mark and Brad were the next two best competitors after Dan and Theo on Battle of the Sexes 2, both were tied in performance as well.[/QUOTE]
Self proclaimed...
Let me just ask your male top 10 with everything into play (politics,etc)
[QUOTE=JayTee;428727]You put Jamie ahead of Bananas when hardly anyone even remembers him.
I would also have Bananas over the overrated Theo.[/QUOTE]
I agree, Bananas is underrated here when it comes to his athletic abilities while Theo and Mark are overrated IMO.
I respect the **** out Bananas athleticism. The guy is a awesome competitor, one of the best ever no doubt. But, there are people I would take over him.
[QUOTE=PaulX001;428741]I've seen all of the challenges dating back to the very first, and I am an old school challenge expert. Dan was the 2nd best competitor on Battle of the Seasons, he outperformed all of
the males (including the Miz) except for Theo (who was the best performer). On Battle of the Sexes 2, he was tied with Theo for best competitor. He outperformed all of the males (expect for Theo) overall in the five individual based missions which were Dangle Drop, Bombs Away, Sa Wing, High Noon and Semi-Cross. Mark and Brad were the next two best competitors after Dan and Theo on Battle of the Sexes 2, both were tied in performance as well.[/QUOTE]
I definitely agree with you on that. Dan S was a killer competitor. Guy was smaller then these muscle men, but he really did outperform basically everyone when he was on a challenge.
Now, BOTSexes, it was all about Mark/Colin/Ruthie.
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