If Laurel is on with Coral, Coral finna have that elite alliance! I want old schoolers like Coral, Theo V & Timmy & Darrell laughing in the background to do an after show.
Coral was a good strategic player in the sense that she was able to manipulate and bully her way to the end. But she was a terrible strategic player when it came to crafting an end-game that would allow her team to win the final. On the Inferno I she protected Leah and on Battle of the Sexes II she protected Arissa, both players that hurt her team in missions and had no business being anywhere near a final. Coral has consistently made game moves that took money directly out of her own pocket.
Coral was a good strategic player in the sense that she was able to manipulate and bully her way to the end. But she was a terrible strategic player when it came to crafting an end-game that would allow her team to win the final. On the Inferno I she protected Leah and on Battle of the Sexes II she protected Arissa, both players that hurt her team in missions and had no business being anywhere near a final. Coral has consistently made game moves that took money directly out of her own pocket.
I think it was moreso the opposite team was just too good. They got rid of Leah & had the most streamlined team possible & they STILL lost. On Sexes 2 the women really lost any hope they had once Rachel left.
Susie never struck fear in other girls (or men) like Coral did & I honestly think they would go after Coral now so I KNOW they'll have Susie up outta there in no time. Most of the girls now would have Susie somewhere in a corner crying her eyes out.
Why are we talking about Susie's abilities then someone else's name gets thrown in, it's like people talking about CT then a rando says Landon is better like what can we go through Susie's abilities first.
This is how I know, you lack JEK knowledge, not one girl on that season mattered to JEK truly until Susie started saying she was going to quit. JEK was definitely a thing, Derrick was in the pact as well as a silent partner, I'm done with this.
You're delusional if you don't think Susie "mattered" to E & K. Johnny didn't. I can't fix stupid on this one.
Lemme rephrase, but on the whole the women didn't matter to JEK. However Susie was important to them and she became extremely important to them when she threatened to lose it for them.
smh @ not thinking someone can run the game without being obvious about it. Ask yourself what people on Kenny's alliance Jen had to get rid of in order to ensure she became his number 1. Answer--Paula & Sarah. What happened? The best way to run shit to by allowing others to do what you need done without making it obvious.
Coral keeping Leah around was strategic. She wanted it to be her or Mallory as the options because she knew they wouldn't pick her. Then it was Julie or Leah so, again, Coral got her wish and Julie went in. Then, at the end, it would have been Coral or Leah and, if the boys didn't agree to throw the mission prior, it would have been Leah or Coral. Road Rules probably take Coral but the boys would have thrown her that life shield so they could get rid of Leah. Keeping Leah wasn't about wanting Leah in the final. It was about putting her in a better spot to reach the final. You can't win if you don't make it to the end.
As far as Sexes 2 goes...well, the girls had no chance in hell. Rachel, Ruthie, Coral and Veronica were arguably the best 4 girls on that season. Does anyone truly believe that the top 3 girls that season (pick whomever you want) could have even come close to Eric, Dan & Theo? Coral's logic was that by keeping Arissa around she was ensuring herself a spot in the final.
Strategy has changed a lot from a team game to the constant partner seasons. Now it should be played like Survivor and how Sarah played Exes 2. You work with people to keep number until the end then you take out threats. Whether they are friends or not
This man said people Jenn had to get rid of to be Kenny's #1? Lol what Jenn had no input on Wes killing off Paula and Sarah. Jenn was at the beginning Wes' double agent that's it she didn't have a secret incredible game plan that was light years ahead of everyone. She just rode both sides and was not a threat. If she was a threat to either side she would have been gone with Darrell.
Sarah needs to get more credit for her truly amazing strategic performance on Exes 2, not Jenn. She perfectly was not only good but actually made the decisions. And used Leroy and Nia to her advantage expertly to get rid of her biggest competition in a final Johnny and Wes.
FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
Graphik wrote:FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
Graphik wrote:FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
We were robbed of seeing more of Sandy!
+ Noor & Sydney
I say this all the time but I seriously ******* hope we see different FM2 people in the future. I've seen enough of Cara Maria to last me a life time; Laurel and Theresa are cool, but like I said, Sydney/Sandy/Noor deserve a chance.
Graphik wrote:FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
We were robbed of seeing more of Sandy!
Sandy, Noor, Sydney (ESPECIALLY with how she looks nowadays), Pete, etc. such a shame.
Graphik wrote:FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
We were robbed of seeing more of Sandy!
+ Noor & SydneyI say this all the time but I seriously ******* hope we see different FM2 people in the future. I've seen enough of Cara Maria to last me a life time; Laurel and Theresa are cool, but like I said, Sydney/Sandy/Noor deserve a chance.
Graphik wrote:FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
We were robbed of seeing more of Sandy!
Sandy, Noor, Sydney (ESPECIALLY with how she looks nowadays), Pete, etc. such a shame.
Yes to all of those people! Why were we given Luke and Vinny instead on Cutthroat??? #TRAGIC
Luke came back for all of one season & Vinny was garbage who went home early on every season he did. Noor had serious potential to eventually win one smh
Graphik wrote:FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
Pete/Sandy/Noor should've been the only returnees tbh.
And Fresh Meat 2 did have a good voting format though. That's one voting method that needs to return.
If Laurel is on with Coral, Coral finna have that elite alliance! I want old schoolers like Coral, Theo V & Timmy & Darrell laughing in the background to do an after show.
Coral was a good strategic player in the sense that she was able to manipulate and bully her way to the end. But she was a terrible strategic player when it came to crafting an end-game that would allow her team to win the final. On the Inferno I she protected Leah and on Battle of the Sexes II she protected Arissa, both players that hurt her team in missions and had no business being anywhere near a final. Coral has consistently made game moves that took money directly out of her own pocket.
Fair. Susie's best strategies always seemed to work best when she strong armed her teams by quiting or doing her deeds.
And if she returns she's not going to be able to do either so she'd be ******.
I think it was moreso the opposite team was just too good. They got rid of Leah & had the most streamlined team possible & they STILL lost. On Sexes 2 the women really lost any hope they had once Rachel left.
Yeah RR was just a stronger team overall. And even with Rachel they still probably lose so the girls were doomed no matter what.
I would love to see this.
Why are we talking about Susie's abilities then someone else's name gets thrown in, it's like people talking about CT then a rando says Landon is better like what can we go through Susie's abilities first.
Lemme rephrase, but on the whole the women didn't matter to JEK. However Susie was important to them and she became extremely important to them when she threatened to lose it for them.
never forget susie crying when darrell confronted her *** on the ruins daily
smh @ not thinking someone can run the game without being obvious about it. Ask yourself what people on Kenny's alliance Jen had to get rid of in order to ensure she became his number 1. Answer--Paula & Sarah. What happened? The best way to run shit to by allowing others to do what you need done without making it obvious.
Coral keeping Leah around was strategic. She wanted it to be her or Mallory as the options because she knew they wouldn't pick her. Then it was Julie or Leah so, again, Coral got her wish and Julie went in. Then, at the end, it would have been Coral or Leah and, if the boys didn't agree to throw the mission prior, it would have been Leah or Coral. Road Rules probably take Coral but the boys would have thrown her that life shield so they could get rid of Leah. Keeping Leah wasn't about wanting Leah in the final. It was about putting her in a better spot to reach the final. You can't win if you don't make it to the end.
As far as Sexes 2 goes...well, the girls had no chance in hell. Rachel, Ruthie, Coral and Veronica were arguably the best 4 girls on that season. Does anyone truly believe that the top 3 girls that season (pick whomever you want) could have even come close to Eric, Dan & Theo? Coral's logic was that by keeping Arissa around she was ensuring herself a spot in the final.
Strategy has changed a lot from a team game to the constant partner seasons. Now it should be played like Survivor and how Sarah played Exes 2. You work with people to keep number until the end then you take out threats. Whether they are friends or not
Okay we get it, you think Jenn ran shit in FM2. Other people like myself do not agree with you. Agree to disagree.
This man said people Jenn had to get rid of to be Kenny's #1? Lol what Jenn had no input on Wes killing off Paula and Sarah. Jenn was at the beginning Wes' double agent that's it she didn't have a secret incredible game plan that was light years ahead of everyone. She just rode both sides and was not a threat. If she was a threat to either side she would have been gone with Darrell.
Sarah needs to get more credit for her truly amazing strategic performance on Exes 2, not Jenn. She perfectly was not only good but actually made the decisions. And used Leroy and Nia to her advantage expertly to get rid of her biggest competition in a final Johnny and Wes.
FM2 is hardly even a season worth having a long discussion about IMO; I wouldn't have wasted even half of the time spent on such a filler season lol
It really isn't. It's a forgettable *** season with a shitty selling point. Not much to talk about when it comes to that season.
Like any time I spend talking about that season is either how garbage it was or which Fresh Meat should've gotten another shot to return. Miss me with all the other shit lmaooo
We were robbed of seeing more of Sandy!
+ Noor & Sydney
I say this all the time but I seriously ******* hope we see different FM2 people in the future. I've seen enough of Cara Maria to last me a life time; Laurel and Theresa are cool, but like I said, Sydney/Sandy/Noor deserve a chance.
Sandy, Noor, Sydney (ESPECIALLY with how she looks nowadays), Pete, etc. such a shame.
Yes to all of those people! Why were we given Luke and Vinny instead on Cutthroat??? #TRAGIC
Luke came back for all of one season & Vinny was garbage who went home early on every season he did. Noor had serious potential to eventually win one smh
vinny gained like 400 lbs
Pete/Sandy/Noor should've been the only returnees tbh.
And Fresh Meat 2 did have a good voting format though. That's one voting method that needs to return.
still one of my favorite intros
The one from Cutthroat was good too.
Agreed.
When that NOLA team should have been Eric/Ryan/Sahar/Jemmye..
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