AlwaysAMess wrote:Jenna is definitely one of the more top-tier girls of this Challenge era, but I think she needs a solid elimination win to really solidify her status. Maybe this Challenge will be her "breakout" season.
No.
This. Plus are we going to pretend that there isn't major issues regarding the cast's abilities? The casts nowadays are weak af. Imagine a challenge of this cast against the prime guys and girls of Golden era or even JEK era that shit would be even more one sided that the G3 or Ruins was. Jenna looks "solid" because there is literally no competition. The only competition she has in this era was Sarah/Camila and both of them were always a puppet of Johnny. She would be eaten alive had she debuted on a challenge filled with strong female competition (Rivals 1 - with Ev/Paula/CM/Laurel/Camila/Sarah). The matter of fact is they cast have a poor cast on the women's side (the males too) but the women side is only about loud ******** and who can create more stupid drunk drama. Competition wise the girls side ****** sucks. In Nia's words "She was only beating scrubs"
I agree with you. Although I do think there are some diamonds in the rough the casts are weaker than the ones of yesteryear.
Back then the challenges weren't that tought and for some of them there weren't even eliminations so i dont think it's fair to compare the people on two eras
Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Back then the challenges weren't that tought and for some of them there weren't even eliminations so i dont think it's fair to compare the people on two eras
But some of them thrived in the era following that one which had harder missions, eliminations, and finals. Some were tougher that what they do now so yeah..they were stronger...Well some of them were anyways.
Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden era
and good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
not even a fan lol. DA and I disagree so we collide on certain things. Besides not my fault you cant read of course im gonna point it out when you cant read for shit
So one mistake means I just can't read? Good to know.
nevidcm wrote:Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden eraand good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
nevidcm wrote:Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden eraand good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
Even Rachel(Campus Crawl)?
I haven't rewatched the older challenges in a long time but she never like blew me away. If anything I would say Ruthie did amazing, but she would get eaten alive on anything physical because of her size sadly
nevidcm wrote:Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden eraand good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
Even Rachel(Campus Crawl)?
I haven't rewatched the older challenges in a long time but she never like blew me away. If anything I would say Ruthie did amazing, but she would get eaten alive on anything physical because of her size sadly
I agree. But not all challenges. eliminations are physcial. She could thrive in other things.
not even a fan lol. DA and I disagree so we collide on certain things. Besides not my fault you cant read of course im gonna point it out when you cant read for shit
So one mistake means I just can't read? Good to know.
ah man sorry i am just trolling duh!!!
idk about cooke being better than all the golden era girls...i honestly dont remember much of cooke
nevidcm wrote:Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden eraand good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
Even Rachel(Campus Crawl)?
Even though Cooke is unproven to most people I think those 3 are better than Rachel.
Is there anyone else from that era that could hang if they did challenges today? I feel like Ruthie was too wishy-washy.
kaylen did more on her season of AYTO than dione dean and dylan did on GBOGH. So lets say that Kaylen is worthless shit then, I guess all the dudes from GBOGH and Bad Blood minus Theo are even worse than worthless shit.
DAMNNN I STARTED THIS WHOLE DEBATE AND NO ONE HMU SMH. Lol and this is true.
I think as far as Cooke I think she should do a indvitual challenge before she gets ranked top tier. She had Dusty-Maria dragging her down on Rivals 2 so that brought her preformance down a bit. I think she'll probably do better without a partner.
nevidcm wrote:Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden eraand good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
Even Rachel(Campus Crawl)?
Even though Cooke is unproven to most people I think those 3 are better than Rachel.Is there anyone else from that era that could hang if they did challenges today? I feel like Ruthie was too wishy-washy.
I think Emily(Second Adventure) and Holly(Latin America) could probably hang on these shows today.
Seeing as to I started this whole controversy I wanna add in a few words. AYTO 4 has more interesting guys than GBOGH+BB. Theo is legit the only guy who would be worth seeing. (Maybe Mike)
Peter, Theo, Mike, Will, Kass, Dean, Dione and Dylan have nothing on Gio, Prosper, Cam, John, Asaf, Morgan, and (I guess Stephen even though I think he's trash). Y'all know that as fact. Don't get me started on girls Kaylen would run the house in BB and y'all know that. Tya's story is about Theo strictly other than that she's dust. Pick any 2 out of Kaylen, Tori, Emma Francesca, or Mikala. That's already better than what we're gonna see from Anika and Styrofoam ***** on Challenge 29.
nevidcm wrote:Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden eraand good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
Even Rachel(Campus Crawl)?
Even though Cooke is unproven to most people I think those 3 are better than Rachel.Is there anyone else from that era that could hang if they did challenges today? I feel like Ruthie was too wishy-washy.
I think Emily(Second Adventure) and Holly(Latin America) could probably hang on these shows today.
Don't sleep on Holly B. from Maximum Velocity her and Theo's performance I think is the best male female pair not named Kenny and Laurel/Coral Evan
AlwaysAMess wrote:Jenna is definitely one of the more top-tier girls of this Challenge era, but I think she needs a solid elimination win to really solidify her status. Maybe this Challenge will be her "breakout" season.
No.
This. Plus are we going to pretend that there isn't major issues regarding the cast's abilities? The casts nowadays are weak af. Imagine a challenge of this cast against the prime guys and girls of Golden era or even JEK era that shit would be even more one sided that the G3 or Ruins was. Jenna looks "solid" because there is literally no competition. The only competition she has in this era was Sarah/Camila and both of them were always a puppet of Johnny. She would be eaten alive had she debuted on a challenge filled with strong female competition (Rivals 1 - with Ev/Paula/CM/Laurel/Camila/Sarah). The matter of fact is they cast have a poor cast on the women's side (the males too) but the women side is only about loud ******** and who can create more stupid drunk drama. Competition wise the girls side ****** sucks. In Nia's words "She was only beating scrubs"
I agree with most of this expect I think Jenna is very adaptable, I feel like she'd raise her ability to that level not to Evelyn level, but to an above average level in those era's. But yes nowadays we care about loud girls. Her only comp is Cara, Sarah, Camilia. Let's strictly go with the girls who've come up in the Bananas Era AKA Rivals-Rivals 3, Veronica would be top 3 competively not just top 3 with her mouth (being loud not her head game even though we could ask my man Abram....)
Forgive me for bringing up a rough patch in Challenge history, but I don't understand The Island final? Most likely they made a deal for Evelyn to not take Johnny's key, but the final you were allowed to pick teams. They could have easily said thank you Ev for not taking Johnny's key now gtfo of our face we want Paula. I wouldn't put it past them to do that even after making a deal? Idk maybe that's just me.
Forgive me for bringing up a rough patch in Challenge history, but I don't understand The Island final? Most likely they made a deal for Evelyn to not take Johnny's key, but the final you were allowed to pick teams. They could have easily said thank you Ev for not taking Johnny's key now gtfo of our face we want Paula. I wouldn't put it past them to do that even after making a deal? Idk maybe that's just me.
The boys wanted the sure win and Evenlyn competitive wise was kicking guys ***** in the faceoff, I guess they figured it was a no brainer to get to the $.
nevidcm wrote:Wym the female cast now it's way more competitive than on the golden era
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden eraand good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
I thought we were talking about this new era (FA/Exes 2 - current season era and not post JEK) Laurel and Emily came at the end of JEK era and Cooke while i think she is elite has only done one challenge.
Plus Holy, Jodi and Rachel would stomp today's competition regarding the difficulty of the challenges.
Forgive me for bringing up a rough patch in Challenge history, but I don't understand The Island final? Most likely they made a deal for Evelyn to not take Johnny's key, but the final you were allowed to pick teams. They could have easily said thank you Ev for not taking Johnny's key now gtfo of our face we want Paula. I wouldn't put it past them to do that even after making a deal? Idk maybe that's just me.
The boys wanted the sure win and Evenlyn competitive wise was kicking guys ***** in the faceoff, I guess they figured it was a no brainer to get to the $.
They had already crossed Ev once and got karma on them plus they didn't knew if there was going to be any more twists so they played it safe and made the deal. What im still trying to understand is why the others just made JEK win like that but that can be questioned for every challenge during that period of time.
Portland, Bad Blood, Skeletons, Ex-Plosion, GBOGH, AYTO4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all these tired *** trash regulars who've plagued the Challenges for far too long.Except Jordan, Reilly, Mike & Jenna T. ....they can rot.
She's certainly top-tier, but I think she's placed on a higher pedestal than she should be.
100% agree. Rachel is at the bottom of the top tier. She would get smacked around by Laurel, Emily and Ev. **** even people like Camila, Cara Maria, Theresa and others could take her out and it wouldn't even shock me. I think she's always put on a higher pedastal because of her win on Duel 2 when really that cast was pretty bad.
I agree with you. Although I do think there are some diamonds in the rough the casts are weaker than the ones of yesteryear.
Back then the challenges weren't that tought and for some of them there weren't even eliminations so i dont think it's fair to compare the people on two eras
Not really. The Female side of competition hasn't been competitive in a LONG time. I can't even remember the last time that we had a legit, unpredictable competiton on the girls side.
But some of them thrived in the era following that one which had harder missions, eliminations, and finals. Some were tougher that what they do now so yeah..they were stronger...Well some of them were anyways.
Laurel, Emily, Cooke >>>>> everyone on the golden era
and good competitors of the golden era like Veronica and Coral I don't see performing as well if they got challenges like they do now
So one mistake means I just can't read? Good to know.
Even Rachel(Campus Crawl)?
I haven't rewatched the older challenges in a long time but she never like blew me away. If anything I would say Ruthie did amazing, but she would get eaten alive on anything physical because of her size sadly
Cooke is overrated
I agree. But not all challenges. eliminations are physcial. She could thrive in other things.
ah man sorry i am just trolling duh!!!
idk about cooke being better than all the golden era girls...i honestly dont remember much of cooke
Even though Cooke is unproven to most people I think those 3 are better than Rachel.
Is there anyone else from that era that could hang if they did challenges today? I feel like Ruthie was too wishy-washy.
I think if they truly trained they could. Tbh Aneesa really doesn't train and she's not bad. Imagine if she really trained like the rest of the girls.
NONSENSE
She’s certainly top-tier, but I think she’s placed on a higher pedestal than she should be.
DAMNNN I STARTED THIS WHOLE DEBATE AND NO ONE HMU SMH. Lol and this is true.
I think as far as Cooke I think she should do a indvitual challenge before she gets ranked top tier. She had Dusty-Maria dragging her down on Rivals 2 so that brought her preformance down a bit. I think she'll probably do better without a partner.
I think Emily(Second Adventure) and Holly(Latin America) could probably hang on these shows today.
Seeing as to I started this whole controversy I wanna add in a few words. AYTO 4 has more interesting guys than GBOGH+BB. Theo is legit the only guy who would be worth seeing. (Maybe Mike)
Peter, Theo, Mike, Will, Kass, Dean, Dione and Dylan have nothing on Gio, Prosper, Cam, John, Asaf, Morgan, and (I guess Stephen even though I think he's trash). Y'all know that as fact. Don't get me started on girls Kaylen would run the house in BB and y'all know that. Tya's story is about Theo strictly other than that she's dust. Pick any 2 out of Kaylen, Tori, Emma Francesca, or Mikala. That's already better than what we're gonna see from Anika and Styrofoam ***** on Challenge 29.
Don't sleep on Holly B. from Maximum Velocity her and Theo's performance I think is the best male female pair not named Kenny and Laurel/Coral Evan
I agree with most of this expect I think Jenna is very adaptable, I feel like she'd raise her ability to that level not to Evelyn level, but to an above average level in those era's. But yes nowadays we care about loud girls. Her only comp is Cara, Sarah, Camilia. Let's strictly go with the girls who've come up in the Bananas Era AKA Rivals-Rivals 3, Veronica would be top 3 competively not just top 3 with her mouth (being loud not her head game even though we could ask my man Abram....)
Forgive me for bringing up a rough patch in Challenge history, but I don't understand The Island final? Most likely they made a deal for Evelyn to not take Johnny's key, but the final you were allowed to pick teams. They could have easily said thank you Ev for not taking Johnny's key now gtfo of our face we want Paula. I wouldn't put it past them to do that even after making a deal? Idk maybe that's just me.
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The boys wanted the sure win and Evenlyn competitive wise was kicking guys ***** in the faceoff, I guess they figured it was a no brainer to get to the $.
I thought we were talking about this new era (FA/Exes 2 - current season era and not post JEK) Laurel and Emily came at the end of JEK era and Cooke while i think she is elite has only done one challenge.
Plus Holy, Jodi and Rachel would stomp today's competition regarding the difficulty of the challenges.
They had already crossed Ev once and got karma on them plus they didn't knew if there was going to be any more twists so they played it safe and made the deal. What im still trying to understand is why the others just made JEK win like that but that can be questioned for every challenge during that period of time.
which Jordan :)
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100% agree. Rachel is at the bottom of the top tier. She would get smacked around by Laurel, Emily and Ev. **** even people like Camila, Cara Maria, Theresa and others could take her out and it wouldn't even shock me. I think she's always put on a higher pedastal because of her win on Duel 2 when really that cast was pretty bad.
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