[QUOTE]But everybody on the shows has people that have their back. They just choose to align with the wrong people. Landon threw in with Wes on FM2. Leroy was working with Johnny on Rivals 2. No one goes into the game completely alone and it's not like these people aren't friends of Johnny's off the show.
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Well yeah no kidding. I'm fully aware that nobody is completely on their own when it comes to the politics and alliances and such. And as far as aligning with the wrong people..That would go under the strategically stupid part I mentioned. Johnny benefits from that.
[QUOTE]It sounds like the only way he'd impress you is if he went on a show with 27 people who hate him, win every challenge, go into every elimination round and then win the final. And no one on the show has EVER been in that situation.[/QUOTE]
You're not entirely off....The only way he would impress me would be if he actually had to fight his way to the end like so many other castmembers on this show have had to do. If he had to really physically and strategically maneuver his way to the end and win it all. THEN I would be impressed with him. Ever since he's took control of the game Johnny has rarely been challenged politically and physically. I would just for once have it be a reality that he may not make it to the end..THAT'S what I want to see.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;396593]Well yeah no kidding. I'm fully aware that nobody is completely on their own when it comes to the politics and alliances and such. And as far as aligning with the wrong people..That would go under the strategically stupid part I mentioned. Johnny benefits from that.
You're not entirely off....The only way he would impress me would be if he actually had to fight his way to the end like so many other castmembers on this show have had to do. If he had to really physically and strategically maneuver his way to the end and win it all. THEN I would be impressed with him. Ever since he's took control of the game Johnny has rarely been challenged politically and physically. I would just for once have it be a reality that he may not make it to the end..THAT'S what I want to see.[/QUOTE]
i'm curious, who in your mind has fought their way through a season and came out victorious? aside from landon on fm2
[QUOTE=inferno;396597]i'm curious, who in your mind has fought their way through a season and came out victorious? aside from landon on fm2[/QUOTE]
Even Landon...he had to pick a side and survive it but Wes and Evelyn being there kept him protected from Kenny (since Kenny was after them before him) and of the two exiles he went into one of them the other team intentionally didn't try. If anything Kenny and Laurel fought their way to the final because the pretty much had to win the whole first half of the show to stay out of exile...but then they could coast in the 2nd half. And they didn't win so it doesn't really matter. No one has ever done what Debut expects Johnny to do...at least in the modern era with challenges and finals being as difficult as they are.
[QUOTE=JL81790;396598]Even Landon...he had to pick a side and survive it but Wes and Evelyn being there kept him protected from Kenny (since Kenny was after them before him) and of the two exiles he went into one of them the other team intentionally didn't try. If anything Kenny and Laurel fought their way to the final because the pretty much had to win the whole first half of the show to stay out of exile...but then they could coast in the 2nd half. And they didn't win so it doesn't really matter.[/QUOTE]
good point.
if by "fighting his way through a season" means what i think it does (winning multiple challenges with your *** on the line, winning several eliminations), i'm having a really tough time thinking of anybody who has done that and gone on to win the final.
[QUOTE=inferno;396597]i'm curious, who in your mind has fought their way through a season and came out victorious? aside from landon on fm2[/QUOTE]
Sarah(Campus Crawl) On the Gauntlet 1.
Katie(The Quest) on The Inferno 1
Landon(Philedelphia)-I know you said him but still.
I would also include people who had a rough road to the final challenge but didn't win.(or people who didn't necessarily a rough road but had to fight to stay in the game at one point)
Cooke/Cara Maria(Rivals 2)
Team Brooklyn(Battle of the Seasons 2)
Wes(Fresh Meat 1)
CT/Adam(Rivals 2)
Ty/Emily(Battle of the Exes)
And there's some more that I'm forgetting but That's all that I could remember.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;396602]Sarah(Campus Crawl) On the Gauntlet 1.
Katie(The Quest) on The Inferno 1
Landon(Philedelphia)-I know you said him but still.
I would also include people who had a rough road to the final challenge but didn't win.(or people who didn't necessarily a rough road but had to fight to stay in the game at one point)
Cooke/Cara Maria(Rivals 2)
Team Brooklyn(Battle of the Seasons 2)
Wes(Fresh Meat 1)
CT/Adam(Rivals 2)
Ty/Emily(Battle of the Exes)
And there's some more that I'm forgetting but That's all that I could remember.[/QUOTE]
You list Katie as someone whose win impressed you when she walked on a treadmill in an elimination and was carried on someone's shoulders during a final that was what? Three miles? Rather than Johnny who won three challenges, beat Mark Long in a wrestling match and had to do a half marathon on a glacier on Exes. Alrighty then.
[QUOTE=JL81790;396606]You list Katie as someone whose win impressed you when she walked on a treadmill in an elimination and was carried on someone's shoulders during a final that was what? Three miles? Rather than Johnny who won three challenges, beat Mark Long in a wrestling match and had to do a half marathon on a glacier on Exes. Alrighty then.[/QUOTE]
Him beating Mark wasn't even legitimate. He let Johnny win that one so that doesn't even count.
As far as Katie well the eliminations she did that season were legitimate wins and don't forget she solved that last part of that puzzle that nobody could figure out so she deserves some credit there and she had her entire team against trying to get rid of her constantly though that season. Johnny's never been through that.
And honestly does It really matter what they did or how hard or easy it was? Better yet I would say that one Inferno she beat David in was more impressive than anything Johnny has done. Being able to hold you breath in that filth is DAMN impressive in my eyes.
[QUOTE=JL81790;396606]You list Katie as someone whose win impressed you when she walked on a treadmill in an elimination and [B]was carried on someone's shoulders during a final that was what? Three miles?[/B] Rather than Johnny who won three challenges, beat Mark Long in a wrestling match and had to do a half marathon on a glacier on Exes. Alrighty then.[/QUOTE]
Umm...you watched the final, right?
If you did, then you would have known that they were supposed to do that!
[QUOTE=Debut Album;396607]Him beating Mark wasn't even legitimate. He let Johnny win that one so that doesn't even count.
As far as Katie well the eliminations she did that season were legitimate wins and don't forget she solved that last part of that puzzle that nobody could figure out so she deserves some credit there and she had her entire team against trying to get rid of her constantly though that season. Johnny's never been through that.
And honestly does It really matter what they did or how hard or easy it was? Better yet I would say that one Inferno she beat David in was more impressive than anything Johnny has done. Being able to hold you breath in that filth is DAMN impressive in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
Wow you actually think Katie beating David is more impressive than ANYTHING Johnny has done? I'm speechless...
The point of Johnny battling his way to a final is dumb IMO because he doesn't need to as his political game is just that good. Just about everyone who has been at the bottom would love to be in his position. Either way, I'm sure Johnny has proved his worth with mission wins/elimination round performances so it's a still a mute point.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;396607]Him beating Mark wasn't even legitimate. He let Johnny win that one so that doesn't even count.
As far as Katie well the eliminations she did that season were legitimate wins and don't forget she solved that last part of that puzzle that nobody could figure out so she deserves some credit there and she had her entire team against trying to get rid of her constantly though that season. Johnny's never been through that.
And honestly does It really matter what they did or how hard or easy it was? Better yet I would say that one Inferno she beat David in was more impressive than anything Johnny has done. Being able to hold you breath in that filth is DAMN impressive in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
I had no problem with this until Katie beating David as impressive
David was horrible on these shows
There needs to be a non-spoiler thread on Free Agents already. I've been skimming through every spoiler and I'm surprised that the mods haven't created a thread for it yet. And no, the Generic Challenge Thread doesn't count because you can talk about anything challenge related there.
And LOL at the poster that said Katie's stint with David was more impressive than anything JB has ever done. Just LOL.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;396631]Well, I'm glad that I can make people LOL and speechless.[/QUOTE]
That's a type of statement someone makes when they have no counterarguments left haha
yeah,
- CT IS voted in, in the last males elimination.
- I'd say Johnny B, Johnny R, and Leroy really earned tickets to finale.
- If Leroy is 13, he will face an elimination that is balls in.
- (not important) it looks like their will be a pink team on the challenges.
-Leroy is in the finale, and it looks accurate that he will be Challenge 25 Winner!
Predictions-
-I think it is Zach/Johnny R that will face CT.
I think All of the males that are in the finale all faced an elimination.
[QUOTE=boncat23;396640]yeah,
- CT IS voted in, in the last males elimination.
- I'd say Johnny B, Johnny R, and Leroy really earned tickets to finale.
- If Leroy is 13, he will face an elimination that is balls in.
- [B](not important) it looks like their will be a pink team on the challenges.[/B]
-Leroy is in the finale, and it looks accurate that he will be Challenge 25 Winner!
Predictions-
-I think it is Zach/Johnny R that will face CT.
I think All of the males that are in the finale all faced an elimination.[/QUOTE]
Didn't Rachel and Aneesa have pink jerseys on BOTExes?
Have you, or anyone else for that matter, heard anything about Devyn winning any eliminations?
Ohhh!boy those people thinking Leroy won really are going to get their burst bubble once the finale airs and see in Bananas get his 5th win without Leroy being anyway near by him if by then Molds or any other Mold dont confirm the winners.
Anyways, done posting on this thread for a while probably after the premiered, it was fun lol
[QUOTE=GDInstall;396556]I find it hard to believe that Johnny would throw CT or Leroy in more than Zach though. He isnt acting this way as if he threw CT in.
Nevertheless though...Bananas was probably the one who got pretty lucky with the twist since he for the first time didnt go in as part of an majority alliance as everybody expected a vets vs rookie season.[/QUOTE]
I didn't ask how elimination rounds were determined, so I don't know if CT was sent in by default or if he was sent in by Johnny. But, I would totally see why Johnny would send him in over the other guys that were left. On BOTE, CT blew him away for over the first half of the final before the elements caught up with him. On Rivals 2 with no snow to deal with, CT again blew him away and did exceptionally well in the puzzles during that final. The puzzles were actually where he and Wes padded their lead and I've heard they won that final by a pretty significant time difference over Johnny and Frank too.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;396646]Ohhh!boy those people thinking Leroy won really are going to get their burst bubble once the finale airs and see in Bananas get his 5th win without Leroy being anyway near by him if by then Molds or any other Mold dont confirm the winners.
Anyways, done posting on this thread for a while probably after the premiered, it was fun lol[/QUOTE]
Please tell me Leroy at least made the final lol.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;396646]Ohhh!boy those people thinking Leroy won really are going to get their burst bubble once the finale airs and see in Bananas get his 5th win without Leroy being anyway near by him if by then Molds or any other Mold dont confirm the winners.
Anyways, done posting on this thread for a while probably after the premiered, it was fun lol[/QUOTE]
Lol you said at first that Leroy didn't make the finale. IF there is teams, Leroy will be paired up WITH laurel in the finale, therefore will get the win. I am assuming the finale is in pairs
[QUOTE=boncat23;396662]Lol you said at first that Leroy didn't make the finale. IF there is teams, Leroy will be paired up WITH laurel in the finale, therefore will get the win. I am assuming the finale is in pairs[/QUOTE]
Top 5:
CT
Leroy
Zach
Johnny R
Johnny B
Theresa
cara maria
Devyn
Nany
Laurel
I still stand about what I heard that CT/Leroy/Theresa/Cara Maria dont win this challenge and are not in the top 3. Dont know how the last pair gets eliminated in a actual elimination or in the first part in the final like Jemmye/Camila/Jordan/Marlon did on Rivals 2.
Bananas/Laurel wins this challenge, I can care less who believed me at the end of the day it will be proven in the next 13 weeks
But I trust my source since they were right about the premiered being on the 10 a week before it was announced (I posted that on here) to the fans and right about elimination matchups shown on the trailer/elimination they did. Anyways this is the last time I do this whole spoilers stuff, its annoying to get attack over a reality show on private msgs.
[QUOTE=boncat23;396662]Lol you said at first that Leroy didn't make the finale. IF there is teams, Leroy will be paired up WITH laurel in the finale, therefore will get the win. I am assuming the finale is in pairs[/QUOTE]
It is not in pairs, the description for the season says the final will find the most worthy [B][U]Challenger[/U][/B] of all, the ultimate free agent.
PinkRose, I appreciate all your information you've given us this season. People will complain just to complain. Props to you for being correct the majority of the season.
[QUOTE=PinkRose;396665]Top 5:
CT
Leroy
Zach
Johnny R
Johnny B
Theresa
cara maria
Devyn
Nany
Laurel
I still stand about what I heard that CT/Leroy/Theresa/Cara Maria dont win this challenge and are not in the top 3. Dont know how the last pair gets eliminated in a actual elimination or in the first part in the final like Jemmye/Camila/Jordan/Marlon did on Rivals 2.
Bananas/Laurel wins this challenge, I can care less who believed me at the end of the day it will be proven in the next 13 weeks
But I trust my source since they were right about the premiered being on the 10 a week before it was announced (I posted that on here) to the fans and right about elimination matchups shown on the trailer/elimination they did. Anyways this is the last time I do this whole spoilers stuff, [B]its annoying to get attack over a reality show on private msgs[/B].[/QUOTE]
It's unbelievable that the person who gives the info gets attacked! No wonder molds isn't giving spoilers anymore...
I've come to the realization that no one knows for sure who wins this challenge and I don't care how trustworthy someones sources really are. People are saying Leroy wins, others are saying Bananas. I wouldn't be surprised if CT is in the finals and people's sources are giving out false information on purpose. Unless answers comes out of BMP or the challengers themselves nothing is for sure.
Also I feel like we didn't get anything in the trailers and the reason why they are so short is because I feel like they are hiding a big part of this challenge. For some reason I still find it strange that veterans such as susie, brad, sarah and etc. were all part of the reunion. I think we're in for a great surprise.
[QUOTE=achedcobra;396675]I've come to the realization that no one knows for sure who wins this challenge and I don't care how trustworthy someones sources really are. People are saying Leroy wins, others are saying Bananas. I wouldn't be surprised if CT is in the finals and people's sources are giving out false information on purpose. Unless answers comes out of BMP or the challengers themselves nothing is for sure.
Also I feel like we didn't get anything in the trailers and the reason why they are so short is because I feel like they are hiding a big part of this challenge. For some reason I still find it strange that veterans such as susie, brad, sarah and etc. were all part of the reunion. I think we're in for a great surprise.[/QUOTE]
Lol yeah right I seriously doubt those vets have anything to do with it plus Sarah was in school then
I got my information from somebody who was there the entire time and who is probably one of the most upfront and honest people you could meet not just from these shows, but in general. If they said CT was eliminated before the final and came as close to saying Bananas won without actually coming right out and saying it, then I believe it and I'm fully expecting these statements that PinkRose is being scrutinized for by some to be proven true as the season unfolds.
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