The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons - Discussion (Spoilers)

After all those years of Johnny, Kenny, Paula and Jenn... I finally got my dream cast. Thank you molds and BMP. This gonna be an awesome Challenge. For sure.

Oh forgot to say in my post: Great Work Molds!!! Continue to impress, your hardwork is much appreciated.

I don't see why they would go to all the effort of picking 4 people from each city only to then to do 2 person teams. In the fantasy cast thread, a few weeks ago, I drew up a Battle of the Cities with teams of 4 people with this format: - 2 bottom teams in each challenge go up for elimination - The Winning team picks 1 guy and 1 girl from each of the bottom 2 teams to go into the elimination round. - if a team doesn't have at least 1 guy and 1 girl on the team after an elimination round then that team is eliminated. I think this would be amazing.

Random thoughts about the cast: I really didn't like Frank on SD2011 and was in the minority that actually liked Zach and Ashley (though they took a bit of warming up to). I've always liked Sam. Even though I really don't like Frank, I think that this team of four will be a good combo and it might make Frank more bearable if they make it longer than the first episode. Having to work with Zach and Ashley might cause him to calm down a bit. I'm also excited to see the LV hybrid team, that will be kind of cool. It's also really cool that Lacey is doing a challenge after all these years - and maybe Melinda and Danny will work out their problems (not get back together, but be civil - granted, I have no idea what their relationship is currently like). I'm interested to see how Devyn will do. I have no idea what the format will be like, but based on the past (which may not be a good indicator for this challenge), I would say there are two teams that seem significantly disadvantaged in comparison to the others. NOLA2010

I think this is a pretty interesting cast...definitely shocked to see certain people (Lacey)...Johanna must really be done with these. I'm pro-Vegas and Cancun and hoping that Austin goes home very quickly.

Even though this cast is very random and strange, I like it. They really thought out how to make the competition even. P.S.: Holy rookies!

A possible name for this challenge could be The Challenge: Bragging Rights. Which ever Real World wins gets the title of the best Real World to compete on a challenge. And as far as this cast goes, this should be so easy for Danny to finally make it to a final and possibly win one.

Thanks so much for all your work, Molds. I really appreciate it and am always amazed how you do it. So happy about KellyAnne. Have waited to see her on a spoiler list since The Ruins, and now it's finally happening. Finally someone to root for.

This is the weirdest, unpredictable, yet interesting cast since... I don't know when. I could cry right now. Who would have freaking known they would pull something like this? I have no more words. And great job Molds.

If it is teams of 4 and not pairs, they would need to do the Challenge one week and the elimination the next in order to have enough rounds to make a 12-13 episode season and would be taking a big risk if an entire team went home because one person DQ'ed unless additional teams were brought in or half the season was no competition episodes. The lopsidded # of vets and rookies would suggest that is not it unless the vets were forced to go in every week but they are not evenly dispersed among the seasons. 32 isn't evenly divisible by 3, so teams of 4 or 8 or 16 would be more likely if not pairs. We non-credible people would not know the "history" of the Vegas "team" casting so we have to do math based on the history of the show.

Alton- Never thought this beast would come back, but glad he is. Definitely one of the best challengers ever! Chet- Boring. Please stop **** challenges. CJ- Glad his back for another go. Big fan of CJ. Hope he goes far. Danny- Another guy I'm happy to see back. Always liked Danny and I can't wait to see his interactions with his ex-wife! Derek- His alright, but I don't think the challenges are cut out for him. Dunbar- For the love of God please stop doing challenges. Dustin- Good to see Dust back. Just don't slip on any rocks this time around bro lol. Frank- O NO!!! Please go home first like your San Diego buddies did on Exes. Issac- His alright. Brings some fun to these challenges JD- See Chet Preston- Never thought he would do one of these, but please leave after Franky. However, at least a B2NO cast-member is on a challenge! Robb- Have to watch St. Thomas Knight- Interested to see how he does. Will he take the game seriously or just want to have some fun? Also like Danny, can't wait to see his interactions with his ex girl. Trey- See Rob. Wes- I think I had enough with Wes. Kinda stopped liking him after FM2. Zach- Can't wait to see this Rook in action! Also another guy who has an ex on the show! Ashli- Thought we would never see her after the Island, but she's back :( Ashley- Excited to see her and Zach hopefully team up and compete. Devyn- From the little I've seen of Brooklyn, I don't really like her, but at least her "rack" makes up for it lol. Jasmine- Brings the drama. Jemmye- See Knight. Jonna- Ok I guess KellyAnne- Glad she's back. She's always been a good female competitor and can't wait to see the drama between her, Wes, and DummyBar. Lacey- Absolutely shocked to see her. Never thought she would do one. Her story coming into this is kind of like Jo's from RW: San Francisco. Laura- See Trey. Marie- See Laura. McKenzie- Surprised to see her, never thought she would do one. Melinda- Nice to see her back. Can't wait to see her interactions with her ex-husband. Nany- Excited to see her compete. Sam- Ehh Sarah- I think she's going for the record for most consecutive challenge appearances. Trishelle- What a surprise! Glad to see this sexy ***** back.

I wanna be excited but I won't be cause as well all know and history is an testament of this the cool people always go home first.

[QUOTE=Nostalgic;306612]I wanna be excited but I won't be cause as well all know and history is an testament of this the cool people always go home first.[/QUOTE] Yeah but that's usually because of some sort of seniority/get rid of the rookies deal. On this challenge, there are three teams (St. Thomas, San Diego, New Orleans) completely full of people who have never done a challenge, so that shouldn't be an issue this time around, IMO. Not to mention, the vets on this challenge aren't really the usual ones, save for Wes, Sarah, and Dunbar I guess. But chances are Sarah's team doesn't stand a chance. If the new cast members are smart, they'll help each other out. But then again, who knows. Also, since I can't help but being so giddy about this cast right now, here's my opinions: Alton: Wasn't expecting to see him back, but I've always liked Alton. He's a beast of a competitor and always seemed like a good guy. Hopefully he's still got it. Chet: I'm hot and cold with Chet. I can never decide how I feel about him. Even though he isn't that fresh of a face, since he's been on a couple challenges, I'm still happy to see him. I still wish it were Ryan and Scott instead of Chet/JD though. CJ: As I've said, I was pleasantly surprised with CJ on FM2. He'll probably be a good competitor and a good guy. I'm happy to see him. Danny: I liked Danny on his season and then it all went downhill afterwards starting with their reunion. With that said, I do wonder how a team will work with he and Melinda on it, and Wes since I don't know if they're still friends? Derek: Meh. Nothing interesting, but fresh face nonetheless. Wish it were Bronne though. Dunbar: Was Cohutta unavailable? He can go. Dustin: Dustin and Heather were two breaths of fresh air on Exes, so I'm happy to see him. I didn't even really like him on his season though. Frank: He'll bring some drama and he's a newbie, so in that sense I'm fine with him. But ugh... Isaac: VERY happy he's back! Never thought he'd be back. JD: Not a fan. Like I said, I'd prefer Ryan or Scott. Preston: I like Preston. I doubt he'll do very well though. I love the New Orleans cast though so I wish it was Eric instead of Preston, because they'd probably do better in that case. Robb: Can't really comment. Though I will say these are the four St. Thomas cast I wanted to see for some reason. Knight: I always liked Knight. He's kind of a ******, but he's funny. I've been waiting for him to be on one. I wonder how he'll perform. Trey: See Robb. Wes: I'm so sick of Wes, but I can put up with him. I think/hope he'll be more tolerable without his "enemies" JEK. Zach: He's an ***, but I'm definitely happy he's on it. Hopefully he'll bring some good competition and a little drama. Ashli: Well hello there! Happy she's back. She didn't really get a fair shake last time around. Hopefully she has a chance to call TJ a *******. Kidding, of course, but yeah definitely didn't expect her. It's too bad Trisha hasn't done one though. Ashley: Boring, but still glad to see her. New face, blah blah. Plus, I imagine she's relatively athletic and didn't she and Zach break up? Devyn: Another person I never thought we'd see again. I'm excited about her. I imagine she won't do very well though. Unless the challenges are more like old-school challenges. Jasmine: I'm hot and cold with her. I kind of like her and think she's hilariously ridiculous, but I'd prefer Emilee or Ayiiia. Jemmye: Woohoo! I'm happy to see her. I knew it was only a matter of time. She's absurd and will bring some drama. Plus, her and Knight broke up yes? Jonna: Don't really care for her but she's kind of dramatic and a solid competitor. Kellyanne: I don't love Kellyanne the way everyone else seems to, but I'm glad to see her. She brings the drama and the competition so definitely on board with this. Lacey: Okay, biggest one out of left field for sure. Can't wait to see what she's like. Laura: See Trey. Marie: See Laura. McKenzie: The person I'm happiest about!! I know she's a random person to like as much as I do, but I do. I didn't think we'd be seeing her. I can see her being a pretty good athlete, and especially since this challenge is supposed to be more "fun" challenges, I think she could do well. I just think her team doesn't look as great compared to some others, sadly. Melinda: Not much to say, but maybe some divorce drama? Nany: My other happiest person! I really liked her on her season and was bummed that she didn't get to do Exes. I can see her and her team doing well. Sam: I liked Sam a lot. Is it weird that I'd rather see Alex or Priscilla though? Either way, I look forward to her on the challenge, Sarah: Ugh, go away. But hopefully you're still blonde. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE BAYA?!?! Trishelle: I had a feeling she was gonna be back eventually. This is exciting and I'm not even a Trishelle fan. I see her team doing well. whoa I wrote a lot..

Austin, Vegas, St. Thomas and San Diego have the best teams by far.

Pulling for KellyAnne to finally get a win.

[QUOTE=JL81790;306620]I'm a little sad that there's no DC team. Andrew said he was down to do one, and didn't Ashley say on here that she was too? I'm also bummed that it's Dunbar instead of Cohutta. The fact that Cohutta was ready to go on Exes and now isn't on this one sucks.[/QUOTE] Don't Cohutta and Isaac co-own a bar? Maybe both guys couldn't be away from their business at the same time.

[QUOTE=V1man;306601]Um, excuse me, but when did anyone credible mention this would be a pairs challenge? A trail of crumbs was provided to aid you on your journey, yet many have elected to create their own unaided path though the forest. Laudable, perhaps, yet foolishly wrong. The history of the Las Vegas "team" casting suggests smart people will follow the trail to greater understanding. [I]Caveat emptor[/I], bi****es... And we're not even being :sneaky:[/QUOTE] People are speculating, why act like they are ******** just because they don't know. Molds also speculated that last season wouldn't be pairs since Rivals happened and it was. If you know the formula just share no need to act like you are high and mighty with secret info. If 4 people are eliminated an episode this potentially awesome season will be quickly ruined.

Isaac is back for another challenge YES YES YES!!! I haven't watched Real World for a while so I don't know any of the St. Thomas and San Diego kids but I hope they do well, it's always good to see new faces on these challenges. TEAM AUSTIN is my pick, I think they'll dominate the competition :) Here's the guys/girls I think will outperform the others: Danny - I REALLY like this guy he has all the potentional to be a champion and if Wes for once supports him I think he'll do it Alton - he's a beast and great teamplayer Zito - I think he can make it to the end CJ - lost track of him in the Kenny vs Wes feud in FM II but here he can break through and show us his strength mostly physical cause I don't think he can do a puzzle lol KellyAnne - great person and competitor Nany & Melinda - have some fight inside them. The rest of the girls don't impress me so much On a final note, if Dunbar for once lets go of his ego and his weird attitude he can show them he's still got it.

First want to say thanks to Molds for giving the details of the next cast. Always a good day when I can see some great spoilers. Looking at the cast, this could be a weak set of girls, maybe only two girls who will be tough: Sarah, and KellyAnne. Conflict wise I don't see anything going wrong with team Vegas, trust could be issue for Austin, Cancun who knows. Brooklyn might be iffy. But the thing I am most looking forward to is this will Wes make the smart power move, and try to align his team with Vegas. More specifically Trishelle and Alton. Though Alton is a great competitor, he has been out of the game a long time and his allies are few.

I seriously wanted to scream at work when I saw this cast!! I love love love all the fresh faces!!!! ALTON & TRISHELLE!!!!

[QUOTE=TDMEL52;306629] But the thing I am most looking forward to is this will Wes make the smart power move, and try to align his team with vegas. More specfically trishelle and Alton. Though Alton is a great competitor he has been out of the game a long time and his allies are few.[/QUOTE] I also wonder how Wes will do alliance wise on this one. Cancun has CJ who Wes screwed on FM2 and Jasmine and Jonna who weren't big fans of his on Rivals, on Derrick's podcast Zach pretty much called Wes a worm, and Kellyanne's on team Sydney. I think Austin may be one of the worst teams there.

[QUOTE=JL81790;306631] I think Austin may be one of the worst teams there.[/QUOTE] I disagree, Wes always has a way of bringing in rookies to align with. The vets are outnumbered I can see them trying to stick their teams together...teams like Austin/Sydney/Brooklyn/Vegas will probably stick together. The worst teams are NOLA, Cancun and Brooklyn physically. I even think Sydney is weak with Ashli and Isaac. Austin has a good chance I think.

[QUOTE=TSPKM2;306636]I disagree, Wes always has a way of bringing in rookies to align with. The vets are outnumbered I can see them trying to stick their teams together...teams like Austin/Sydney/Brooklyn/Vegas will probably stick together. The worst teams are NOLA, Cancun and Brooklyn physically. I even think Sydney is weak with Ashli and Isaac. Austin has a good chance I think.[/QUOTE] But you haven't seen anyone from NOLA compete yet?

I think Austin is being over-estimated because of Wes. He did get sent home early because he straight up lost and it will be hard for him to out politic season alliances when there are no "bad cops" for him to try to play "good cop" off. A lot will come down to the types of events they have which to me is a good thing.

[QUOTE=FishHooks;306641]I think Austin is being over-estimated because of Wes. He did get sent home early because he straight up lost and it will be hard for him to out politic season alliances when there are no "bad cops" for him to try to play "good cop" off. A lot will come down to the types of events they have which to me is a good thing.[/QUOTE] It all depends on Danny. Wes always comes in all cut up and ready to go, but Danny has just been really bad at challenges. I don't see the girls side being that strong though.

I think the wild card teams are San Diego and St. Thomas because for San Diego, if they can get past their differences and work together, they can be a tough team to beat. As for St. Thomas, Robb and Trey are both big guys and are both former college athletes; as for Laura and Marie, it said on both of their bios they are both former college athletes as well so they can be potentially a tough team. And unlike San Diego, I don't think they have any animosity between any of them. For teams like Austin, Cancun, Las Vegas, and Sydney, I think on paper they can be very tough teams but they all have glaring question marks. Like for Austin, can Danny and Melinda get past their issues and work together? Can Lacey compete? Will Danny trust Wes? For Las Vegas: what can Nany and Trishelle bring to the table? For Cancun: can Derek hold his own and help his team compete? Is Jasmine only here for ratings? Can CJ make up for his miserable exile performance? For Sydney: is Dunbar a real Challenge Champion? Is KellyAnne all hype? Will Isaac and Ashli take this game seriously?

I think I'll be rooting for team Austin. But I'd be happy if any team won except Cancun or Sydney.

I don't understand why so many think that Austin is the team to beat. Lacey has never competed before, so it is hard to say how well she will do, Melinda is just barely on the mediocre side of terrible, Danny has never done well on a challenge, and Wes has been sliding downhill for years. That doesn't even take into account their personal issues with each other.

I'm reallyyyyy excited for this. Alton- I never saw LV1, so I'm excited for him, I heard he's good. Chet - I don't think he's meant for challenges. I like him, and I actually thought he was doing pretty decent on his 2 challenges, but I don't see him making it far. CJ- I didn't like him too much on Cancun, but I liked him on FM2, and I'm excited to see what he can do. Derek - he's a nice guy, but I don't think he's too good for challenges. Danny - I'm excited to see how he's gonna do, having Mel in the house. The reason I say this is because she's not just an ex-GF, she's his ex-wife. Dunbar- ughh, wish Cohutta was back instead Dustin- glad he's back. Just with Heather was too, but I like Nany and Trishelle. Frank - GTFO. Isaac- he's funny and cool, i wanna see how he's gonna do, he didn't get much of a chance on Duel 2 JD- ewww. Preston - eww, hate him. Robb- haven't seen RW St Thomas yet, so i really don't know, but he looks like he appears to be in shape though Knight - not sure about him yet, i'll have to wait and see Trey- haven't seen St Thomas Wes- ughhh. Zach- can't wait to see how he and Ashley will be! They may have been boring on TRW, but I think they can do well physically, considering they were often seen going to the gym, lol Ashli- didn't think she's be back, better her than Shauvon though, for sure Ashley- see Zach Devyn- mehh Jasmine- mostly there for drama. probably an early out Jemmye- have to wait and see, I picture her being a party animal though, for sure Jonna- she and Jas actually weren't that bad on Rivals, in my opinion, have to wait and see though Kellyanne - soooooooooo glad she's back! i see drama with her Wes, and Dumb Bear happening already Lacey- I'm surprised she's there, never thought she'd do a challenge Laura- haven't seen St Thomas Marie - haven't seen St Thomas McKenzie - wonder how she'll do, i have a feeling she'll be an early out Melinda - see Danny Nany- excited for her, just wish Heather was there too, although I like Trishelle Sam- I have a feeling she'll either be really good, or really bad Sarah- again? i guess i'd rather her be back again compared to others who keep coming back non-stop Trishelle- never saw LV1, but I'm reallyyyyyyyyyyy excited for her I'm mostly excited that there's no Kenny, Evan, Johnny, Camila, Paula, etc. coming back. The Brooklyn team (if there is one) sucks though, except Sarah. SERIOUSLY, BRING BACK RYAN AND SCOTT! Ryan was in the Army, where they go through tough boot camp training. Scott has a whole Youtube channel about fitness. And they bring back the crazy gay guy and metrosexual Mormon.

Las Vegas should easily win. That's by far the best team.